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Re: how do i unsubscribe?
by Andrew A. Gill July 4, 2006

July 4, 2006

Yes, I know that I'm a few weeks late to comment on this, but I genuinely HATE HATE HATE these unsubscribe requests. So here's a quick thing on how to unsubscribe: <http://www.things.org/~jym/fqa/unsubscribe.html> How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List By Jym Dyer I'm on a lot of electronic mailing lists. A deluge of "unsubscribe" and "take me off this list" messages on multiple lists inspired the following, which I send out whenever it's needed. The feedback I get tells me it's useful. When you send "unsubscribe" requests to an email list, it lands in the mailboxes of hundreds of people who can't unsubscribe you. I can't unsubscribe you. Try the stuff below. Clip 'n' save these instructions for future reference. =============8<=============Cut-Here=============8<============= How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List 1. Look at the messages you've been getting on the list. Do they have "how to unsubscribe" messages near the end, or an email address to use in a "List-Unsubscribe:" header at the top? If so, follow those instructions. 2. Most lists these days, including all lists hosted by the big two (Yahoo! Groups and Topica), have an "-unsubscribe" alias for this purpose. For example, if you're on the WHATEVER list, either WHATEVER-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com or WHATEVER-unsubscribe(a)topica.com would be the right address to use. (For the rest of this memo, let's assume that the WHATEVER list is at example.com -- that is, the alias is WHATEVER(a)example.com. If the list has a name like "WHATEVER-L", you might try steps 6 and 7 first.) 3. Otherwise, first send a request to the "-request" alias. For our example, that would be WHATEVER-request(a)example.com. This is often read by a human being, so write accordingly. In theory, all email lists are supposed to implement this address (though Yahoo! Groups does not). 4. If you get no response from the above, send mail to the "majordomo" alias. That's majordomo(a)example.com for our example. If the list is administered by the majordomo software, you'll get instructions for unsubscribing mailed back to you. 5. If you get no response, send mail to the "owner-" alias. For our example, owner-WHATEVER(a)example.com. This should go to the human who administers the list. 6. If you get no response, send mail to "LISTSERV". For our example, that address would be LISTSERV(a)example.com. The text of your message should be "SIGNOFF WHATEVER". 7. If you get no response, send mail to the "listproc" alias. For our example, that address would be listproc(a)example.com. The text of your message should be "unsubscribe WHATEVER". 8. If you get no response, send mail to the site "postmaster". For our example, that address is postmaster(a)example.com. Mention that you tried the previous five steps, to no avail. 9. If you get no response, send mail to "root". Our example address is root(a)example.com. Mention that you tried the previous six steps, to no avail. 10. If -- and only if -- all the above fail, send a message to the list itself. Make it courteous, particularly since the vast majority of the people reading it can't do a thing about it. The message should say something like, "How do I get off this list?", not "UNSUBSCRIBE." Try to avoid setting off a bunch of "me too" messages by saying something like, "Please don't chime in with a bunch of 'I want to unsubscribe too' messages." It's ridiculous that there are so many different ways to do this, and consequentially, so many email lists cluttered up with "UNSUBSCRIBE/ME TOO" messages. You'd think there'd be a standard of sorts, and there is: the "-request" alias dates back to the early days of the Internet. Smart systems like majordomo actually (1) handle messages that were sent to the "-request" alias and (2) filter out the "UNSUBSCRIBE/ME TOO" messages. It's a shame that newer stuff has come along that doesn't do either of these things, but since it's on the web, people seem excited about it (gee whiz!) even though it's a huge step backwards in technology. The "-unsubscribe" alias is a newer standard that's starting to gain ground, but that's no help for many of the older lists that haven't gotten around to implementing new features.

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how do i unsubscribe?
by mike obrien June 12, 2006

June 12, 2006

most of the time, i have no idea what tf you guys are talking about. mike

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Doubt...
by Sandesh Sethia June 12, 2006

June 12, 2006

Hello everyone, This is my first post on this group. I am a novice programmer who wanted to know that can I use GTKDFB for creating a PNG image of any window (browser especially) delivered to the GTKDFB toolkit through a C++ program ? Please someone do let me know at the earliest..... Thanks Sandesh

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Why I don't switch from Firefox today
by Jan Stary May 30, 2006

May 30, 2006

Dear Dillo developers, I have been using Dillo since about 0.2.x, and would like to start this email with "Hail Caesar and everything". Thank you! I am really looking forward to the day I replace Firefox with Dillo completely. These are the reasons I won't do it today: 1. Internally, Dillo uses GTK1, which, internally, uses LATIN1. As I am Czech, the last lines of my install process would be $ make install $ strings src/dillo | grep iso8859 $ sed -e 's/iso8859-1/iso8859-2/g;' < ./src/dillo > ~/bin/dillo which happens to work. I suppose that the transition to FLTK will make me able to vies pages in other charsets too. This problem is adressed in http://teki.jpn.ph/pc/software/index-e.shtml#dillo-i18n (Are you guys considering any of the patches included in that?) 2. Lack of CSS support. I am aware of http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.0-css-3.tar.gz (which, BTW, needs to have a few syntax errors fixed before it compiles, see PS). However, it doesn't do much - looking at http://www.dillo.org won't even let me click on the links. 3. Dillo does not have tabbed browsing. I know it's just a convenience, not really related to fast rendering and stuff, but this convenience is just so ... you know, convenient :-) This is also patched into http://teki.jpn.ph/pc/software/index-e.shtml#dillo-i18n After these issues are resolved, you have a converted Firefox user (not that I would use anything else but Dillo for e.g. reading documentation). OTOH, don't waste your time on frames and javascript, everybody knows it's evil. Sincerely Jan PS: Compiling http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.0-css-3.tar.gz on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p7 with gcc (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518 stops with the following errors: In file included from doctree.c:40: css.h:267:8: warning: extra tokens at end of #endif directive doctree.c: In function `Doctree_construct': doctree.c:746: error: label at end of compound statement doctree.c: In function `Doctree_draw_text': doctree.c:806: error: label at end of compound statement The src/css.h ends with #endif __CSS_H__ which I just commented properly, and the empty labels case DW_STYLE_DISPLAY_LAST: /* compiler happiness */ } and case DOCTREE_ELEMENT: /* compiler happiness */ } in src/doctree.c can obviously be deleted. Then it compiles smoothly.

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Oriental(?) overlay
by Beartooth May 14, 2006

May 14, 2006

Lately I've been finding many sites covered, or all but covered, with what may be either very dense pictographs, or a version of the stuff printed on the backs or carbons of checks to keep part of the data from being legible on the copies. rpm -q says I'm running dillo-0.8.5-2.fc5 ; on this machine the opening screen doesn't show the version when I open it from another app (It's my default browser.), but when I open it from its icon, it calls itself 0.8.5-i18n-misc. Does that mean I have two conflicting versions installed?? cron does yum update nightly, and I do it manually from time to time. Anyway, what is wrong, and how do I fix it? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert FC5; Pine 4.64, Pan 0.14.2.91; Privoxy 3.0.3; CXO 5.0.1 Dillo 0.8.5, Opera 8.54, Firefox 1.5, Epiphany 2.14 Remember I have little idea what I am talking about.

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Re: Dillo Hungarian translation.
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 11, 2006

May 11, 2006

On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:06:37PM +0200, Balazs Melikant wrote: > Hi, Hi Balazs. > > Dillo became one of my favorite applications on my SUSE Linux systems It's Good you like it! > and would have some spare time to prepare a Hungarian translation for > it. I would start it asap, but only if there would be interest from > your side. Yes there is. As you may know, we're working in finishing the port to FLTK2. FLTK2 will allow us to use utf8 characters, and thus i18n and friends will be much easier. The other important point is autoconf stuff to be able to disable all this (embedded devices require apps. to be as lean as possible). While we finish the current prototype tree (not yet publicly available), you may start investigating about i18n: what would it require, how to enable/disable it with autoconf etc, and report me back (I did this research some years ago). The new source tree is very different to the old one (with significative parts in C++ and a new UI module), so there's no point in trying to work on dillo-0.8.6 with a view to port to the new tree. Some research on this topic, and an optional framework for enabling/disabling different translations would be a good contribution you may work on while we finish our prototype. > It would also help me, if you would briefly let me know, > how and where to start... As above. You should also subscribe to dillo-dev and have a this topic discussion there. You may get some help and good advice there. BTW, I'm CC'ing this answer to dillo-dev. -- Cheers Jorge.-

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[tomm@dslextreme.com: Dillo browser]
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 6, 2006

May 6, 2006

-- Cheers Jorge.-

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dillo-0.8.6.tar.bz2 is out!!!
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 2, 2006

May 2, 2006

Hi there, dillo-0.8.6.tar.bz2 is finally ready for download. Get it from: http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.6.tar.bz2 The announcement will be made hopefully after the RPMs and DEBs are ready. Package maintainers, please let me know when ready. The graphical downloads plugin is the recommended choice for precompiled packages. IMPORTANT NOTE: FLTK2 r4898 or less is recommended. Later snapshots behave unstable. You have been warned. How to get FLTK2: From scratch from svn: svn co -r 4898 http://svn.easysw.com/public/fltk/fltk/trunk/ fltk to an existing svn tree: svn update -r 4898 Please send some feedback. This is the same rc5 tarball (with a 0.8.6 label), but you never know! :-) -- Cheers Jorge.-

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Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo-0.8.6.tar.bz2 is out!!!
by Globe Trotter May 1, 2006

May 1, 2006

--- Kelson Vibber <kelson(a)pobox.com> wrote: > On Wednesday 26 April 2006 11:03 am, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > dillo-0.8.6.tar.bz2 is finally ready for download. Get it from: > > > > http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.6.tar.bz2 > > > > The announcement will be made hopefully after the RPMs and > > DEBs are ready. Package maintainers, please let me know when ready. > > I've posted RPMs for: > > Fedora Core 4 and 5 > Suse 10.0 > Mandrake 10.0 and 10.1 > Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and 4 > > I'll add more over the next few days. FLTK is proving problematic on some of > > the older distros where I can't easily add packages like g++ without tracking > > down the install CDs. > > -- Kelson, I downloaded and installed your Fedora 5 RPM. When I click on bookmark, I get nowhere. There is an error about libssl.so.5 not found? Or something like that. How did you get this to work on FC5? Best, Trotter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Dillo 0.8.5-2.fc5 suddenly having problems as default browser under FC5
by beartooth April 25, 2006

April 25, 2006

Followups set to gmane.comp.web.dillo.devel Dillo 0.8.5-2.fc5 has long been my default -- both in the preference settings for Fedora 4 and now 5, and in the preferences for Pan 0.14.2.91. It seems to've gotten some major changes lately -- possibly through a yum nightly, more likely because of some change I've made in its options, such as telling it my own colors for links visited and unvisited, etc. It worked fine with Pine (either on my own machine, or Pine on a remote machine running under ssh) in which I command "open link" -- for a while longer than in Pan. But Dillo as the default has suddenly (in the last day or so) taken to coming up with only a tiny window, and telling me "ERROR: unable to connect to remote host" in the left bottom corner. I have tried changing the preferences to something else, and back; no joy. If I open Dillo from its icon in the browser drawer on my panel, it tells me "Welcome to Dillo 0.8.5-i18n-misc" -- but rpm -q dillo says dillo-0.8.5-2.fc5. If I type or paste a URL into the location on Dillo as opened from the icon, I also get the error message. (It used to work fine on complete URLs -- ones including "http://" It failed to accept ones showing only "www.<whatever>" but would get them if I opened Dillo and typed or pasted the "www.<whatever> into it and hit enter. Now it fails both ways, with and without the full URL.) Pan still gets other browsers to find its links, if I make the change in its Edit > Preferences > Apps & Mail; Pine does if I change system preferences. Would changing color coding affect ability to browse?? Is FC5 suddenly having troubles passing URLs to Dillo that it didn't have before?? - Beartooth Staffwright, Wordcrafty Squirreler FC5; Pine 4.64, Pan 0.14.2.91; Privoxy 3.0.3; CXO 5.0.1 Dillo 0.8.5, Opera 8.54, Firefox 1.5, Galeon 2.0.1 Remember I have little idea what I am talking about.

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