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version tests on automake and autoconf
by robert w hall 02 Nov '03

02 Nov '03

I believe Dillo 7.2 tests for v1.7 of autoconf and, if configure.in is patched, for 1.7 of automake. A couple of us are interested in porting uptodate ssl-enabled versions of dillo to the playstation2, where the base distro is rather ancient (Redhat 5 -era :-)) Dillo 7.1.2 with Andreas' ssl-patch compiled fine, but didn't require these recent versions of automake & autoconf. Are these recent versions _in fact_ required or can the tests for them be safely disabled? Bob -- robert w hall

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text wrap aroung images?
by JoeHill 07 Jul '03

07 Jul '03

I'm curious about why Dillo doesn't wrap text around images, but treats all images as a paragraph IYSWIM. Is this a fault in the way people are doing their html (Slashdot?!), or is it something with Dillo? Not a major issue, but it seems to be a standard thing in HTML. Cheers all! :) -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + ICQ# 279518458 + "Come the millennium month 12, in the home + of the greatest power, the village idiot will come + forth to be acclaimed the leader."--Nostradamus 1555

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Hangin with high CPU load
by David McKee 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

Folks, I've been using dillo for a number of months now, and it has become my first choice browser--I switch to mozilla or opera only when I have to java, javascript, http/1.1 authentication, ssl and the like. Of late dillo has started getting into a state where all progress stop in all open windows, and it sits on the CPU---keeping my load average at 1.0 Sometimes it recovers after a while, sometime I get fed up and close all windows at the WM manager level. Stopping all the active windows doesn't cure it, nor does closing them. I haven't tried using the `Exit Dillo' menu item, but I'll do so on the next occurrence. This has been with the CVS version(s) over the last few weeks. Two systems, one running redhat 6.2 (I know, I know...), the other Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1. So, two questions: -- Has anyone else observed this behavior? -- Can anyone suggest a good way to diagnose the problem so I can submit a decent bug report? As things stand my understanding is horribly vague. N.B. I seems to happen most when I have opened several links in new windows in rapid succession. Thanks, -- -- David McKee -- dmckee(a)jlab.org -- (757) 269-7492 (Office)

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Dillo RPM for SuSE
by Kelson Vibber 30 Jun '03

30 Jun '03

Well, I managed to install SuSE 8.2 on my system. (It wasn't easy, mainly because the installer doesn't seem to be very forgiving of FTP interruptions.) I have a first try at an RPM built on SuSE with the SuSE menu structure. The main thing that's missing is the icon for the menu item. The only places I could find for icons seemed to be in either /opt/kde or /opt/gnome, and I didn't want to place it there. If anyone knows where desktop-independent menu icons should go on SuSE, please tell me! Here are the latest RPM download statistics: 283 Red Hat 9 avg 9.8/day 225 SRPM avg 7.8/day 189 Red Hat 8 avg 6.5/day 174 Red Hat 7 avg 6.0/day 32 Mandrake 9 avg 5.3/day (available for 6 days) 5 SuSE 8 avg 1.7/day (available for 3 days, not announced) The Mandrake stats may catch up with Red Hat 7 after search engines pick up the changes. On the other hand, I have discovered some other Mandrake and SuSE RPMS out there, so some people may be going to those sources instead. Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

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dpi interface ....
by Lars Segerlund 28 Jun '03

28 Jun '03

Hi, I'm trying to hack a mailreader dpi for dillo, and I have some code which runs on top of nmh and works decently, ( I looked at exmh :-) ). So now I wan't to know where the dpi's are heading ? Mainly if there is a plan for 'dynamic dpi configuration' and such, i.e. the ability to use a dpi bound at runtime, I have looked at the bookmarks dpi, and since parts of it is compiled into the binary ( the button binding and such ), I am wondering how to handle this in a future safe manner ? ( btw. the mail reader works something like a local webmailer, and I wanted somthing which made extensive use of comand line mail utilities which alredy exist ). So is there a furure target to aim for or do I make it a patch a'la bookmarks ? / regards, Lars Segerlund.

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Looking for Thorben...
by Jorge Arellano Cid 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Hi, I've been trying to contact him for a couple of weeks now. Does anyone have some news? Cheers Jorge.-

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Re: [Patch] Search feature and more
by Jorge Arellano Cid 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Hi Johan, > Hi! > I've made a few small changes to Dillos interface which I think > improves the browsing experience. The attached tar file contains the > changes separated into three diffs (against todays cvs version) and a > README which I also append to this mail. I hope you'll find them > useful and add them to a future release of dillo. I'd be happy to > answer any questions, comments or suggestions. Although I'm with little time now, I managed to review the patches; they look clean, that's good. Here go my comments. (I'll contact you in the future when I have more time). > dillo-search.diff: > - * Added search feature to location entry/open url. ("s key words...") > (BUG#473) Very interesting, and certainly easy to use. Unfortunately it comes with a kind of interface that's out of the cognitive model behind Dillo's UI. In simple terms it means that users will have to learn how to use it from the help file and that it's not quite oobvious from the GUI and that it is different from what you come to expect when using dillo. The search problem had been in my mind for some time, so I know it is necesary to do something about it. I think that a small icon (like "clear URL box"), shaped as a magnifier, can pop up a dialog (like "Open URL"), but for search. If we add a short-cut for it (Ctrl-s), and the option to hide the icon (as with the rest of the interface icons), it integrates better with the user interface model. > * Added 'search_url' to dillorc. Perfect. The rest of the patch is quite OK! > dillo-accel.diff: > - * Added keyboard shortcuts to > - reload (Ctrl+R). > - full screen (F11). > - select all text in location entry (F8). > - focus location entry (Ctrl+Shift+L) > (BUG#474) > > Files affected: interface.c > > This patch adds a few useful keyboard shortcuts which eases mouse less > browsing. > Most browsers have a focus-and-select the location entry shortcut (Ctrl-L in > mozilla, F8 in opera). I tried to get some feedback on if this was the desired > behaviour for dillo by posting the mailing list, but no one seemed very > interested. I therefore settled on a two shortcut solution; F8 selects all > text and Ctrl-Shift-L just focuses the location entry. In this way you can > easily modify an existing url or just enter a new one without the use of > the open url dialog. > > As I wanted the F8 key to work also within the location entry I had to add > a key press handler to the main window (the existing one just handles > key presses within the view port (docwin)). I decided on this solution since > adding a handler to the location entry didn't seem right and moving the > docwin key press handler to the main window didn't work as this handler gets > called before a text widgets default handler (and thus a backspace in a > html form would trigger back). > > Perhaps a better solution would be two plain accelerators; one for the > clear-location button and one to just focus the location entry. This way > there'd be no need for an extra key press handler. But I figure that > a "global" key press handler may be needed in the future. Am I wrong? > > Maybe Ctrl+L would be a better shortcut to select all text in the location > entry and Ctrl+Shift+L the shortcut to open an open url dialog (as in > Mozilla), but I didn't dare changing the default behaviour without > getting some feedback first. I think: - reload (Ctrl+R). - full screen (F11). could be easily agreed into a short-cut key. The problem is that everybody comes with his favorite set of shortcuts (you'd be amazed to look in my Mailbox!). OTOH this is not rare; evreyone uses some different apps. and get accustomed to different key combinations. I prefer to take Havoc's approach on this: http://www.dillo.org/ui-prefs-tips.html > dillo-focus.diff: > - * Made main document window grab focus on startup and after open url. > (BUG#330) > > Files affected: interface.c > > This is just a two line patch which implements the behaviour found in other > browsers as mozilla and opera. Makes mouse less browsing easier. Well, this is a long time unsolved problem for us :(. Please give a read to my last post about it: http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/pipermail/dillo-dev/2003-June/000770.html If you can make a temporary subscription and send it to the GTK+ list, it'd be a great favor to us. In the meanwhile (or if the post gets no answer), I think your approach will make it into the source as a workaround. Note that if we solve this, it becomes easy to focus the location box (or viewport) in tyhe standard GTK+ way: TAB/ShiftTAb Cheers Jorge.-

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convert mozilla bookmarks to dillo
by Kyle Amon 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Hi, I don't subscribe to this list, but I've been sweet on Dillo since about 1997 or 1998 (who knows). Anyway, I just wrote a trivial but usefull perl script to generate a Dillo bm.txt file from a Mozilla bookmarks.html file and thought others might be interested in using it as well. It is attached and posted on my homepage under Software. Enjoy, -- Kyle -- Kyle Amon email: amonk(a)gnutec.com url: http://www.gnutec.com/~amonk KeyID 1024D/4EB96E44 Fingerprint = E9EC 0046 8487 23D7 C91C D757 7B2A 8AE9 4EB9 6E44 "Learning isn't a duty that we must be flogged into performing; it's our birthright, our very human specialty and joy." - Jerry Farber The Student As Nigger This email Copyright 2003 by Kyle Amon, Inc., a Florida corporation, 6002 Palm Shadow Way, Suite 1218, Tampa, FL 33647: (813) 689-4041 amonk(a)gnutec.com http://www.gnutec.com/~amonk. All rights reserved.

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Dillo RPMs updated, Mandrake version available
by Kelson Vibber 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

Last night I added a Mandrake 9.1 partition and built a Dillo RPM for Mandrake. I made a few changes to put the Dillo menu item and icon in the appropriate place for Mandrake's menus. The SRPM now detects when it's being built on a Mandrake system and places menu info in /usr/lib/menu. Otherwise, it uses /etc/X11/applnk (as before). http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo.html I will probably be making another RPM release in the next few days, patching the splash page to point to www.dillo.org. (In the plain 0.7.2 release, it still points to the wearlab.de site.) Jorge, would it be appropriate to also use the new toolbar icons, or would you prefer I waited until the next official release? Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

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The Dillo web browser and GTK+ (fwd)
by Jorge Arellano Cid 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

Hi there! Can someone please forward this to gtk-list(a)gnome.org. I sent it once and as I'm not a member it was held for aproval, but it never made its way in. :( If someone here is a member, please send it. If someone knows the answer, better! Thanks a lot Jorge.- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:38:36 -0400 (CLT) From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)softhome.net> To: gtk-list(a)gnome.org Subject: The Dillo web browser and GTK+ Hi! I have two questions: 1) What do I need to do to make the Dillo web browser listed in the GTK+ apps. at www.gtk.org? (Ref: www.dillo.org) 2) Technical: If I have three focusable widgets in a window, pressing TAB/ShiftTAB cycles through them, _BUT_ like this: .-> One -> Two -> Three -> "Nirvana" --. | | '--------------------------------------' (or backwards). And I want it to be: .-> One -> Two -> Three -> --. | | '----------------------------' I have called "Nirvana" a widget(?), that seems to grab the focus (as none of the three widgets has it when at "Nirvana" :) Appended is some example code that illustrates the problem. Thanks in advance Jorge.- PS: Please CC me, as I'm not in the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------- /* focus example. -- GTK+-1.2.x */ #include <gdk/gdk.h> #include <gdk/gdkkeysyms.h> #include <gtk/gtk.h> gint delete_event( GtkWidget *widget, GdkEvent *event, gpointer data ) { return(FALSE); } /* Another callback */ void destroy( GtkWidget *widget, gpointer data ) { gtk_main_quit(); } int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) { GtkWidget *window; GtkWidget *entry; GtkWidget *vbox; gtk_init(&argc, &argv); /* create a new window */ window = gtk_window_new (GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL); GTK_WIDGET_UNSET_FLAGS (window, GTK_CAN_FOCUS); gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (window), "delete_event", GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (delete_event), NULL); gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (window), "destroy", GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (destroy), NULL); /* Create the entries */ vbox = gtk_vbox_new (FALSE, 0); entry = gtk_entry_new(); GTK_WIDGET_SET_FLAGS(entry, GTK_HAS_FOCUS); gtk_widget_set_usize(entry, 140, 0); gtk_entry_set_text(GTK_ENTRY(entry), "One"); gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), entry, FALSE, FALSE, 0); gtk_widget_show (entry); entry = gtk_entry_new(); gtk_widget_set_usize(entry, 140, 0); gtk_entry_set_text(GTK_ENTRY(entry), "Two"); gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), entry, FALSE, FALSE, 0); gtk_widget_show (entry); entry = gtk_entry_new(); gtk_widget_set_usize(entry, 140, 0); gtk_entry_set_text(GTK_ENTRY(entry), "Three"); gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), entry, FALSE, FALSE, 0); gtk_widget_show (entry); gtk_container_add(GTK_CONTAINER (window), vbox); gtk_widget_show (vbox); gtk_widget_show (window); /* Start */ gtk_main (); return(0); } -----------------------------------------------------------------

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