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[Fwd: Re: [Dillo-dev]GTK 1.2 ..?]
by R. Tyler Ballance 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

oops, forgot to reply to the list :-! -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: R. Tyler Ballance <tyler(a)tamu.edu> To: Kelson Vibber <kelson(a)pobox.com> Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev]GTK 1.2 ..? Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:16:56 -0600 On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 09:17 -0800, Kelson Vibber wrote: > R. Tyler Ballance wrote: > > Is there any reason Dillo is still building against the GTK+ 1.2 > > libraries as opposed to 2.0 ? > > People have done tests, and Dillo becomes much slower and much larger > under GTK2. > > The current plan (unless it's been changed off-list) is to move to FLTK > instead, which should pick up things like Unicode support and a more > current code base. > That's fine, but where (if any) is the code in CVS, i've worked with FLTK before, but only from a C++ perspective...is Dillo staying in C? By the way, jcid@, I heard you were at FOSDEM, and were staying with Mind.be, which one were you again, I was staying there with the MirOS/MirBSD hackers, I stayed up all night working on ports, so I probably saw you downstairs sometime hacking away (or listening to those comical Plan9 fellows talk ;)) Have you given thought to wxWidgets, or anything other graphics libs? (FLTK was kinda ugly the last time I used it, then again, GTK+ 1.2 isn't much pretty either) -R. Tyler Ballance

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[Dillo-dev]Dillo resolving problems
by Liam J. Foy 03 Apr '05

03 Apr '05

Hello Guys, First of all, congratulations on the excellent work achieved on dillo. Sadly I was only introduced to dillo recently, however I now use it every day for about 1-2 hours browsing CVSWEB. I love the way bookmarks are handled! On to more important topics, I have a strange problem which I dont understand. I believe it could possibly be dillo related. I am currently using Dillo 0.8.4 for your information. The problem is strange. A few websites I browse on a regular basis cannot be viewed. I get the error: ERROR: No route to host. However, I can ping and view these websites using another browser. An example of a website I cannot view is: www.netbsd.org/ The system dillo is on currenly runs DragonFly BSD following the Stable tag. Whats really strange is I can ping and view these websites using other means =/ Hope someone can shead some light on to my problem. If anymore information is needed, please ask! Regards, -- - Liam J. Foy DragonFly BSD Committer <liamfoy(a)sepulcrum.org> http://www.bsd-systems.co.uk

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[Dillo-dev]Refresh patch for 0.8.4
by Kelly Price 31 Mar '05

31 Mar '05

Heya. New here. Glad someone's working on Dillo. Hope it comes full-featured like Firefox is with less than half the bloat! I'm attaching a fixed patch for 0.8.4 that allows meta-http refreshes. This is quite common with web chats (including Tag-Board). I've test-compiled and ran it, and so far so good. The next thing we'll need is the frames/iframes code now! -- Kelly "STrRedWolf" Price http://strredwolf.furrynet.com

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[Dillo-dev]GTK 1.2 ..?
by R. Tyler Ballance 31 Mar '05

31 Mar '05

Is there any reason Dillo is still building against the GTK+ 1.2 libraries as opposed to 2.0 ? I'm not sure what it would break to build against the 2.0 libs, but I would really like to start building against them so I can add the clipboard code that i've had my eye on ;) I don't think the size would grow _that_ much, and I think the benefits would be large from using 2.0. Right now, the only difference I can see would be in the autoconf files, GTK+ 2.0 uses pkg-config to supply the correct cflags and ldflags, while GTK+ 1.2 uses gtk-config. Ideas, suggestions? -R. Tyler Ballance p.s. I'm working through bug #668 which I added last night on my NetBSD laptop right now, woo

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[Dillo-dev]Patch: config option for page increment
by Alexander Becher 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

Hi everyone, I have made a small change to dillo-0.8.4, so I can put a line like scroll_factor=0.5 in my dillorc and get the old behaviour for scrolling a page. It would be great if this could be included in the dillo distribution, so I don't have to patch my source every time I build a new version. I know that the current effort is the port to FLTK. If this makes this patch useless for new versions, I'll try to adapt it once the port to FLTK is done. Regards Alexander -- PGP key available

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[Dillo-dev]configure cache size
by G. Milde 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

Dear developers, thanks for dillo. As I sometimes use a more (or less) feature-rich webbrowser than dillo, I 'outsourced' the caching of web pages (to squid). In a previous Debian package of dillo, I could turn off the internal web cache with cache_size=00 in .dillo/dillorc. With version 0.8.3, I get the error dillorc:23: unexpected string constant "cache_size", expected symbol and every dillo process uses > 5 MiB of memory. What could I do to turn off (or limit) the internal cache? Was the cache_size option in the debian package an unofficial patch? I would really like to see this patch in the mainstream, as I am short on RAM here... PS: This is a re-post. I sent this mail once, before subscribing and it seems like it did not get through the moderation process. Sincerely Günter Milde -- G.Milde web.de

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[Dillo-dev]dillo bug : not using the whole space
by Denis BUCHER 12 Mar '05

12 Mar '05

Hello ! I found another bug or problem in dillo : It doesn't use all the space provided ! For example, let's take a 320x240 screen/window (in full screen mode). If your content takes more than 305-310 pixels wide, the scrollbars are appearing, while they only should appear if your content is larger than "window size less borders", like 316... I hope my question is clear and thank anyone would could reply/help me :-) Denis -- Denis Bucher Horus Digital Solutions Each problem has a solution ______________________________________________________________________ Tél. +41-22-8000625 Fax: +41-22-8000622 www.horus.info

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[Dillo-dev]javascript ...
by Lars Segerlund 12 Mar '05

12 Mar '05

Hi, I have a theoretical question, as follows. What would be needed for Dillo to support javascript ? Of course it would need a javascript interpreter, but there are also issues about variables and how to handle stuff like mouseover and such in the rest of the code. Is there any possibility that the dpi interface would suffice for a task like this ? ( what I mean here is if there is a possibility to somhow use it for this functionality, perhaps 'filtering' the pages through it or something ? ). Basicly I'm curious, and I would like to have a look at if it's doable. / regards, Lars Segerlund.

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[Dillo-dev]XML browser
by dillo-dev＠moshe.nl 12 Mar '05

12 Mar '05

Hello, For some time now i'm looking for an XML browser, witch is simply able to show XML documents. XML capable browsers that exist today do not suit my (and others who extencively use XML) needs. Their XML implementation is based on top of their html implementation, witch makes it incapable of many standard XML features and also makes them bloated. During my search I began to cave into the dillo source, and found the dillo widget system. Witch seems to be a good rendering system for digital documents, not just html. XML parsers already exist (libxml for example), and parsing XML is a lot easier than parsing html, because it has a much more strict syntax. An XML browser, maybe more acuratly named an XML viewer, is just as abstract as XML itself. It has no way to know how a partucular XML document has to be show'ed. For this purpose XSLT exists, it is able to "translate" any XML document into another. Thus creating a XML viewer is limited to being able to render one particular type of XML document, and having XSLT documents available to translate the rest. Luckily something like glade exists. Glade is an GUI development kit, using XML to describe the GUI's, and GTX+ to show them. Dillo widgets are an extention to GTK+, meanig glade can show them. Leaving the "problem" to creating the XSLT stylesheets te translate documents to glade-XML. The dillo widget is currently inside the dillo source, and only linked directly to dillo. how posible is it to seperate this, and have dillo widget inside a .so for example? As such an XML browser is not really aimed at the same goals als the dillo project (as far as i've read, correct me if i'm wrong), i'd apriciate the dillo widget into a seperate library. this way dillo and this XML browser both can use the same dillo widget system, without forcing me to include dw vith the XML browser. (and sync them constantly) I'm still only planning, so i'd like any comments on this idea, as well as tips and other ideas. maybe you also have comments on the level of integration dillo and the XML browser can have. Greetings, Môshe van der Sterre http://www.moshe.nl/ http://www.coecu.nl/ PS: Needless to say, i'm a little short on time, so my participation in any discussion might be low. PSS: I'll problably license the browser code itself GPL (just as dw), and the XSLT stylesheelts LGPL. As they might be usefull elsewhere. Mvg, Môshe van der Sterre http://www.moshe.nl/ http://www.coecu.nl/ Mvg, Môshe van der Sterre http://www.moshe.nl/ http://www.coecu.nl/

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[Dillo-dev]Gmail
by Jonathan Gardner 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

I hadn't actually tried using Gmail with Dillo before, but I just heard that Gmail recently implemented a "plain html" version and would thus work on any browser. That inspired me to try it with Dillo and sure enough it works. Maybe it always did, but it certainly does now. :-) Jonathan

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