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Documentation in the tarball?
by sgeerken＠dillo.org June 1, 2015

June 1, 2015

Hi! Does it make sense to include all developer documentation into the tarball? As an alternative, only user documentation, plus a notice where to find the developer docs, could be included, while the rest can only be found in the repository at hg.dillo.org. I assume that someone who is interested in the internals of dillo will anyway refer to the lastest version from the Hg repository. Keeping it out of the tarball would have advantages: - It makes the tarball smaller. - We developers would not have to think that much about file sizes of the documentation: these files do not go into the tarball; and for those using the lastest version from the Hg repository, it should be reasonable to spend some more disc space. What do you think? Sebastian

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Oh, list moderator...
by onepoint＠starurchin.org June 1, 2015

June 1, 2015

(I hope you will take this in the light-hearted tone that I wrote it. I don't often write poetry.) Oh, list moderator, help me please. I sent the list an email with attached PNGs. I saw there was a problem, had an itch to scratch. And that's why I was hoping you would take my patch. But I knew that you would need some actual evidence To show you what I'm saying really makes some sense. I saw a flowchart image in the HTML page And noticed with regret that it had rotted with age. It linked to a method that wasn't there no more And that's when I decided I should settle this score. I made a better version and then sent it to you And I chose to enclose the original too But sadly those two images were too big for the list So now now your mailer's told me I should cease and desist. Please, list moderator, let my work through. Whatever you may think I only did it for you. I have helped you before, I want to help you once more. But you've got to tell your mail software to open the door. Regards, Jeremy Henty

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Alternative styles support?
by johnfound＠asm32.info May 26, 2015

May 26, 2015

Hi, Dillo team. Are there plans about supporting alternative page styles? I mean, those defined by <link rel="alternate stylesheet" />. This should be really easy to be implemented. In addition, if there is defined style with name="Dillo", it can be switched by default and this way to provide better support for Dillo from the web masters. Of course this behaviour can be made optional. Best Regards. -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found <johnfound at asm32.info>

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long lines and slowness (common when viewing style sheets)
by eocene＠gmx.com May 26, 2015

May 26, 2015

Now that everyone likes to send their style sheets as one big long line, like 250k long, viewing them in dillo is slow. gprof says % cumulative self self total time seconds seconds calls s/call s/call name 32.47 1.88 1.88 189407242 0.00 0.00 lout::misc::NotSoSimpleVector<dw::Textblock::Word>::getRef(int) const 29.36 3.58 1.70 187437456 0.00 0.00 dw::Textblock::BadnessAndPenalty::lineCanBeBroken(int) 28.15 5.21 1.63 29345 0.00 0.00 dw::Textblock::wrapWordInFlow(int, bool) and I wonder whether any optimizations are possible.

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view source hang
by eocene＠gmx.com May 25, 2015

May 25, 2015

If a page has null padding, viewing source doesn't complete. Example attached.

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valgrind
by onepoint＠starurchin.org May 23, 2015

May 23, 2015

eocene wrote: > I note the logs still say > > date: Tue Apr 28 21:42:28 2015 +0000 > summary: BUG_MSG > > Are the https changes not playing well with your setup? Something has broken my hg access. I just noticed that my hg update job has been failing for a while, but I haven't made any changes to it ages. $ hg incoming abort: error: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:581) Can anyone help? Jeremy

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not following 301 Moved Permanently
by dennisn＠dennisn.mooo.com May 20, 2015

May 20, 2015

When accessing some sites, say for example http://thepiratebay.org , wget seems to successfully follow the "301 Moved Permanently" redirects a few times, but Dillo only seems to do one redirect and then stops. The last output is: HTTP warning: Message with a body lacked Content-Type header.

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No edit/delete/report Buttons in Some phpBB Forums
by miro.rovis＠croatiafidelis.hr May 14, 2015

May 14, 2015

I've been using dillo for my regular browsing for a few weeks longer than from when I started the thread: Secure: yes, Though Features Missing; and Bugs http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010495.html on dillo mailing list, and I'd like to help at least occasionally with the sole kind of contribution that I can offer: reporting like those in that link, as I'm not a developer, and can program very little only. I have a new one report. on issue that I only mentioned (and wouldn't know how to solve back then) over at: Grsecurity/Pax installation on Debian GNU/Linux http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616&start=60#p577608 But I can try and tell more about it as I saw the same missing edit and delete buttons in: https://forum.sleuthkit.org/ where, to verify it, one would need to register, I believe. And while that registering on a specialized tool forum can take a few hours or more time to get the maintainer's approval, true, I believe it is the same kind of missing functionality and in the Debian Forums, so I guess one can verify this behavior by, if they are not, registering into Debian Forums. I have noticed the same edit and delete buttons missing in Debian Forums too, and I choose the Sleuthkit Forum, because I'm currently posting on it, and can accomplish this report with much more ease then on Debian where I am done with my posts for some time. I have a slow and lengthy (and tiring: too advanced for me) topic on Sleuthkit Forum: An Avi Video Recovery with SleuthKit http://forum.sleuthkit.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2441 ) and I have actually managed to edit my posts, and I managed to delete one (only the post not replied to can be deleted on Sleutkit Forum). But not by clicking on the respective icons, as they don't show in dillo. But by issuing Ctrl-U to open the source of the page while logged in and having my topic opened in my dillo browser and searching for the right (relative) link under the icon 'edit-icon' or 'delete-icon' and reconstructing the right page, because that was the only way to do it. I did search thoroughly, and no link, even on empty surfaces, did I manage to detect under the mouse (as I didn't in Debian Forums either). This is how I found it, after saving the source for the page, which is still opened for me since I posted on it, and where I deleted the last misposted post: The page was (and will not remain available under that exact address): Re: An Avi Video Recovery with SleuthKit https://forum.sleuthkit.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2441&p=2630&sid=4e30a8bd740… (which is Page 2 of 2 of the topic; for those who will try elsewhere, or who just want to get the jist reading this without trying, this is the topic page 2: https://forum.sleuthkit.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2441&p=2630#p2630 but that one has, surely no edit or delete -icon(s)) I saved it as: SK_150514-10_pg2_src.php ('10' because it's post 10 of the topic, 150514 is for 2015-05-14) and, for deleting, which is quicker to show, since it can be only one instance found, only the last post: cat /Cmn/dLo/SK_150514-10_pg2_src.php | grep delete-icon | \ sed 's/\&amp;/\&/g' and that gives, in this case (surely anyone would need their own current address given by the forum phpBB, but this is the principle, and even I as the same miroRR user will still get a different one variant of the string 'sid=...' for the same page the next time), [and that gives, in this case:] </pre><tr><td bgcolor='#DD7F32'>238<td><pre> <li class="edit-icon"><a href="./posting.php?mode=edit&f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" title="Edit post">Edit post</a></li><li class="delete-icon"><a href="./posting.php?mode=delete&f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" title="Delete post">Delete post</a></li><li class="report-icon"><a href="./report.php?f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" title="Report this post">Report this post</a></li><li class="quote-icon"><a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" title="Reply with quote">Reply with quote</a></li> (When grep'ing 'edit-icon', 'report-icon' or 'quote-icon' there would be two founds for each, as there are two posts.) in one line, however, but surely I prefer my Vim setting it to the usual 79 colums width, so readers in the mailing list would not have trouble viewing it as one line (I have mercy on my poor brothers in *nix ;-) ). Surely, if I will have to post this text on Gentoo Forums [*] and [**] and [***], case shown to be that this e-mail just does not send by the absolute joyous great provider of mine, urgh!, I will rather set it to around 110-120 colums width... But from that HTML code, I figured out from this segment: href="./posting.php?mode=delete&f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" that if I wanted to delete that post, I would change the address from what it looked like into: https://forum.sleuthkit.org/posting.php?mode=delete&f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd… And indeed, after hitting Enter on that address I was asked for confirmation and was able to delete the post. There are also strings to use for changing the same address into the one that would accomplish editing that post: href="./posting.php?mode=edit&f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" reporting that post: href="./report.php?f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" and quoting that post: href="./posting.php?mode=quote&f=6&p=2634&sid=4e30a8bd7401b94368a85571eaebe8f2" None of those icons, however, show in dillo for me. This is about the whole report, as I can't even dedicate time to follow the suggestion be kind unixer eocene: Secure: yes, Though Features Missing; and Bugs http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/2015-April/010500.html and get my fonts sorted in dillo... since even the regular maintainance of my system during a data recovery work is already schedule completely exhausted, let alone DIY compilations. [*] I'll post this, in case it is not sent to dillo ML by my provider, on Gentoo Forums where I have anyway been planning for some time the idea to open a topic on browsers and really recommend dillo, as the its being so sea-calm secure when compared with the big surveillor browsers outweighs the missing features such as the lack of javascript and poor support for CSS, so this would fit on Gentoo Forums. [**] And I'll open a special section for suspected censored e-mails of mine, at http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr/foss/cenz/ . However, uncenzorizing is a lot of work, it's in the order of a tenfold work than non-censored free e-mail correspondence, so I'll do it, I hope, some time in the future. [***] START Speaking of big surveillor browsers, I usually have issues with dillo right after I use one of those: the SchmoogleMoz Fox (but freely replace it with any of the other big ones and the potential for harm like below is there!). --- I had to use it, because the freaking Croatian corporate robber Zagreba?ka banka at www.zaba.hr require the use of javascript for internet banking... --- And that certainly is an issue, the requirement of javascript and privacy/intrusion/surveillance issues, which requirement and these issues is what I want to open the topic on Gentoo on for, and which would be great that dillo managed, with some also, hopefully, speaking as an incompetent but wishful observer --incompetent because not really a programmer-- with some also new honest young hackers/developers' blood to join in among the current herd of dillo developers [[ the work needed is huuuge ]] -- I'm dreaming, brothers, dreaming of a free unsurveilled surfing available for many; dillo looks really really closest to that accomplishment in the field of today's computing which is the sole island in all of computing with potential to be unsurveilled and free users of it therefore not controlled, and which [the sole island] is the FOSS *nix, from BSD variants to Linux variants... --- And so I had to use the SchmoogleFox, and lo and behold, certain stuff in dillo would not work after the bout of only some ten (10) minutes of the Schfox use. Such as I wasn't able to accomplish anything with either Ctrl-U nor right mouse click > View page source. Dillo would crash immediately. Updated my Gentoo from my local mirror (it's kernel 4 now in Gentoo ;-) !!) ( see my topic: Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html and links therefrom, such as to cloning system, a part-topic in: Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html for how to always be able to get renewable clean system even after intrusions ) and all now works. END [***] --- All links in this message checked and all I have found to be live before sending. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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SSL in the browser
by eocene＠gmx.com May 9, 2015

May 9, 2015

James wrote: > Every certificate that doesn't have something at the root of its chain, as it should. I'm on osx and there is no /etc/ssl/certs, so I had no roots until I started loading them. Where does OSX keep them? I'd looked on the web a bit in the past in case there was any simple consensus out there on the matter of where to check, but didn't find anything. I'll see where curl checks. Whatever they do is probably a good idea.

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font size / dpi
by eocene＠gmx.com May 9, 2015

May 9, 2015

On a 125 dpi display, web pages tend to be tiny. For font_factor, dillorc claims "All font sizes are scaled by this value", but that's only true for html sizes and the css sizes like 'small' 'x-large' etc. [hmm...speaking of which, I see there's a bug in there for 'larger' and 'smaller' where we apply font_factor erroneously.] We should either change the claim or make it true. Also, I was refreshing my memory on the resolution-independent px discussion from January. Mostly it was about concern for the cost of scaling images, and I realize that we kind of have to deal with images or else everything doesn't fit together, but...it would be nice in some ways if we could at least scale font sizes by dpi (the css px ones and the assorted 14's that we have around in src/ ).

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