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Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo 0.7.3 delayed...
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 16, 2003

July 16, 2003

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Sebastian Geerken wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > The good/bad news (depends on being optimistic/pesimistic!) is > > > that yesterday I found a bug. The newest CVS has a g_print that > > > makes it evident. > > > > I digged in a bit more and found the bug! Just a missing > > "break;" inside a case. The patch is in CVS. > > > > In any case, I'll wait for Sebastian to confirm me that. At > > first I hesitated because 5 anchors in the splash page produced > > about 15 extra calls, but this seems OK because they need to > > update the offset as the text rewraps. > > This seems correct, but I haven't yet examine it in detail. Anyway, > current CVS has this g_print line commented. OK. > AFAIS, this would be the last issue delaying the release, what I see > else in the bug track: > > - 470: Is this the one which has been fixed? I just sent an email to fred for confirmation. > - 476: This is already older (tested with 0.7.1, which happened to > be available :-), so it is not something making dillo more > buggy than before. :) Ok guys, give our CVS code a hard test! If everything goes OK, that'd be 0.7.3. Cheers Jorge.-

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BUG#471
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 16, 2003

July 16, 2003

Hi there, In BUG#471 (bad rendering for http://futurezone.orf.at) the problem is their html (extensive use of deprecated NOWRAP tag). sed 's/NOWRAP//g' solves the problem! Please tell the webmaster (they're usually responsive to HTML fault reports). Cheers Jorge.-

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Selection segfault again
by Andrew A. Gill July 16, 2003

July 16, 2003

[I'm not subscribed to this list, but I do regularly check the archives. Lets see if this gets through.] Sebastian Geerken: > > Something I forgot: The fix does not work perfectly, when, in the test > page, you start select within the text, and then move the pointer > below the text, the selection starts at the beginning. This is a known > bug, and it won't be fixed for 0.7.3. If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, I prefer to think of that as a feature. Well, now that I test it, it looks like a different feature. Go to: <http://www.planetnintendo.com/ff1/> Friggin' black-text-on-black-background! Select within the text and drag the cursor to the lower right corner of the screen. Voila! All the text within the page is selected! Now you can read it without changing the dillorc! Which reminds me--maybe there should be a way to change page layout per page. -- |Andrew A. Gill |<superluser(a)frontiernet.net>

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Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo size is 1.2mb ?
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 15, 2003

July 15, 2003

Nagaraja wrote: > Hi All, Hi. > I got dillo compiled on arm with natively build toolchain, when I > check the size of dillo it is 1.2mb. > > my configure option is: > > ./configure --with-gtk-prefix=/etc/gtk --x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include > --x-libraries=/opt/toolchain/arm-linux/lib/X11 > --with-jpeg-lib=/opt/toolchain/arm-linux/lib > > when I do file dillo ....... I am getting. > dillo: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Advanced RISC Machines ARM, version 1, > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped > > nothing seems satically linked. :( Well, please assert not a single library was linked in statically. Maybe `strings dillo` or better `nm dillo` could help. (IO/libDio.a is OK to be included statically! ;) > could any one please tell me what could be the cause..... A long time ago I was getting huge binaries for dillo with lcc, I don't know which compiler you're using, but it can be an issue. (On 64bit machines it also grows somehow). Please tell us what you find out. Cheers Jorge.-

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dillo size is 1.2mb ?
by Nagaraja July 14, 2003

July 14, 2003

Hi All, I got dillo compiled on arm with natively build toolchain, when I check the size of dillo it is 1.2mb. my configure option is: ./configure --with-gtk-prefix=/etc/gtk --x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include --x-libraries=/opt/toolchain/arm-linux/lib/X11 --with-jpeg-lib=/opt/toolchain/arm-linux/lib when I do file dillo ....... I am getting. dillo: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Advanced RISC Machines ARM, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped nothing seems satically linked. could any one please tell me what could be the cause..... Thanks and regards Nags

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Some news...
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 14, 2003

July 14, 2003

Hi there! This has been a very busy week. I didn't anticipate how much work the dpid (dpi daemon) integration could take. Don't panic though!, the code that binds it all is running (to some extent) in my machine. The time consuming problem is that while making the integration, a lot of design matters spring in, and they take a lot of time to solve. The good news is that it all starts to shape into a more clear design (the code is still hackish at parts, but it is clear what, where and how to fix it). While working the gory details of it, I realized it'd be a good idea to make the 0.7.3 release with what we have now (plus a little bug fix we're working on with Sebastian). That way, there'll be less pressure on us while polishing the new dpid implementation, and hey!, it's been a long time since our last release. I'll keep the CVS free of the dpid code until the 0.7.3 release is done. For the meanwhile, I'll provide a tarball to the new code. (and if I can't wrap the new code before Monday, I'll provide a link to the latest dpid testing tarball I have). Cheers Jorge.-

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selection segfault again
by Joe Crayne July 12, 2003

July 12, 2003

<html> <title>Selection Bug</title> <body> <table> <tr><td></td></tr> <tr><td> Select beyond the end of the text and Dillo segfaults. </td></tr>  </body> </html>

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Re: [Dillo-dev] Some news...
by Ferdi Franceschini July 12, 2003

July 12, 2003

Lars Segerlund wrote: > I have been looking at the dpid, and from what I can see it looks > good, it would be a piece of cake to whip up some usefull dpi's now :-) That's great! > ... I will however dig a bit more, the issue that I am concearned is if > it prohibits some action to be implemented, ( workarounds are ok for me > :-) ). dpid does not prohibit anything, it simply starts a plugin on demand (similar to inetd). > I also have a related question about the dpi's, whith the new > interface, how it fx. a https dpi supposed to work ? and would it be > possible to make fw a svg dpi ? ( thus enabling the dpi to do the > rendering ? I don't think dillo supports https (other than to check that it is used for cookies), and I don't know what plans there are for https support. Can you explain what "fw" and "svg" stand for. For now, just have the dpi open its own window for rendering, we'll worry about how to integrate this with dillo later, you will also need to do this for GUI controls. > Anyhow, for my stumbling attempts whith dpi's it seems to be fully > adequat. That's good. If you have any further questions please let us know. I plan to make a new version of dpid which supports a dpi directory structure in a few days. Regards Ferdi

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TIPS!
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

Hi there! From time to time I find some remarkable articles. The next couple is in our [Links] section, but as most probably some of us have missed them, I want to recommend them explicitly. The make an excellent read for every developer, regardless of the project they're working on. Please take my advice and spare some time to read them, it's all worth of it! http://www.dillo.org/ui-prefs-tips.html http://ometer.com/features.html (both by Havoc Pennington). -- I also noice that sometimes it gets a bit tedious to dig in the mailing list archives, and there was this ancient email about GMANE, and hey! they have a nice search engine. Now there's a link to it from our [Mailing list] page. Enjoy! Jorge.-

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selecting text block larger than window
by Albert Wagner July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

I am having difficulty selecting a block of text that is larger than the window. Moving the cursor above/below the window limits doesn't cause the window to scroll while selecting. Is this something configurable that I have overlooked? Or is it still on a TO-DO list?

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Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo 0.7.3 delayed...
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Kelson Vibber wrote: > It looks like dillo.auriga.wearlab.de is still referenced in several places > in CVS (at least a few hours ago). > dillorc > doc/Dillo.txt > src/prefs.h > > The second one probably doesn't matter much, but the first and third mean > that the default home page is still pointing to the old site. Thanks a lot Kelson! I just made the changes and commited. Jorge.- PS: I almost forgot to sync with dillo package maintainers (.rpm .deb .tgz).

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Suggestion & patch for browser identification (user-agent)
by Kelson Vibber July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

I know this is too late to even consider for 0.7.3, but I thought I'd get this out for discussion. I've been looking at browser statistics on my website, and started thinking about what various browsers do and don't report in their User-Agent identification. All report their name. Many report the rendering engine (Gecko, KHTML, etc.) Many also report the operating system and the type of system (with varying levels of detail), and some even report the language of the user interface. Here are some examples from my website's server logs: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.1; Linux) Mozilla/4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.18 i686) Opera/7.11 (Linux 2.4.20-18.9 i686; U) [en] Opera/6.0 (Macintosh; PPC Mac OS X; U) [en] Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.22; Mac_PowerPC) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/85 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/85 Some interesting notes: - Netscape and Mozilla always use "X11" for anything X-based, and have a separate field to indicate the actual OS (Linux, Solaris, *BSD, etc.) - Konqueror lets you configure the amount of detail you report. The example here is the default. - Most of the *nix-based strings use qhat you get from uname -sm or uname -srm. - Most browsers designed for Mac OS X report "PPC Mac OS X" - There are possible privacy/security implications of revealing too much information, like your system's kernel version or your primary language. I think that knowing the operating system is interesting, but much more than that probably isn't necessary, so I'd like to suggest one of the following syntaxes to extend the Dillo user-agent string: Dillo/<version> (<system>) Dillo/<version> (<platform>; <system>) Where <system> is the output of "uname -sm" (i.e. Linux PPC, FreeBSD i386, etc) and <platform> is of the form (Windows|Macintosh|X11|etc.) as used by Mozilla (see http://www.mozilla.org/build/revised-user-agent-strings.html ). This would result in identification like the following: Dillo/0.8 (Linux i386) Dillo/0.8 (FreeBSD i686) Dillo/0.8 (Linux PPC) Dillo/0.8 (PPC Mac OS X)* and so on, or perhaps: Dillo/0.8 (X11; Linux i386) Dillo/0.8 (X11; CYGWIN_NT-5.0 i686) to fit Netscape/Mozilla's pattern. * (Aside from the reversed order, Mac OS X would probably show up as Darwin unless a special case is made. This would probably mean setting the User-Agent string once and keeping it in memory instead of building it with each HTTP request. And for the longer syntax there's the issue that it still runs under X, so the platform would probably be X11 instead of Macintosh.) I have attached a quick patch which uses the utsname struct to create the first syntax, and I've tested it successfully on Linux and Cygwin on Intel hardware. So does anyone else think this is a good/bad/interesting idea? And is anyone interested in testing it on *BSD/Solaris/Mac/etc.? -- Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

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# users (OT)
by linux seaq July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

Hi, i wonder how many of us (dillo's users) exists already? --- Andres Mauricio Mujica SEAQ SERVICIOS CIA LTDA www.seaq.com.co

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Porting to Windows?
by Andreas Tolfsen July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

I've just been wondering; Are there any future plans for porting Dillo to the Windows platform? Or is Dillo to stay on GNU/Linux? I think porting to Windows would let Dillo have a much bigger audience to speak to (since about 90% of the worlds computers run Windows). I just wondered if there were any plans? Best regards for a wonderful open-source browser, Andreas Tolfsen <ato(a)itnerd.net>

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Suggestion & patch for browser identification
by linux seaq July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

It's a good idea; Would be nice if also the info reported could be configured with dillorc. -- Andres Mauricio Mujica SEAQ SERVICIOS CIA LTDA www.seaq.com.co

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the same name ronnie!!!!!!
by ronnie July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

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some newbie questions!!
by ronnic July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

hi all I have enjoied dillo and want make it support chinese (a challenge to me ^o^ ),but i encountered some questions: 1)I can not understand the CCC function modules; 2)How the dillo get the HTML documents after establish socket connect; 3)when getting the file how dillo write to the proper dw archtecture; (please tell me by using detail function ) thanks all !!!!! --http://www.eyou.com --ÎÈ¶š¿É¿¿µÄÃâ·Ñµç×ÓÐÅÏä ÓïÒôÓÊŒþ ÒÆ¶¯ÊéÇ© ÈÕÀú·þÎñ ÍøÂçŽæŽ¢...ÒÚÓÊÎŽŸ¡

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COPY&PLASTER !!
by ronnie July 7, 2003

July 7, 2003

hello all! I changed the file dw_style.c as the following and the function font->font = gdk_fontset_load (fontname); is integrant for my chinese support .But the function arose dillo can not COPY & PLASTER . static void Dw_style_font_realize (DwStyleFont *font, gboolean try_all) { char fontname[256], *ItalicChar; @@ -250,15 +251,20 @@ font->bold ? "bold" : "medium", font->italic ? ItalicChar : "r", font->size); - font->font = gdk_font_load (fontname); + strcat (fontname, + "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1," + " -misc-simsun-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb18030.2000-0"); + font->font = gdk_fontset_load (fontname); if (font->font == NULL && font->italic) { - sprintf (fontname, "-*-%s-%s-%s-*-*-%d-*-75-75-*-*-iso8859-1", + sprintf (fontname, "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1," + "-misc-simsun-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb18030.2000-0", + //" -*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb2312.1980-0,*-r-*", font->name, font->bold ? "bold" : "medium", (*ItalicChar == 'o') ? "i" : "o", font->size); - font->font = gdk_font_load (fontname); + font->font = gdk_fontset_load (fontname); } if (try_all) { @@ -266,21 +272,24 @@ /* Can't load the font - substitute the default instead. */ font->font = gdk_font_load - ("-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1"); + ("-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1," + "-misc-simsun-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb18030.2000-0"); } if (font->font == NULL) { /* Try another platform-font that should be available. (iPaq) */ font->font = gdk_font_load - ("-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1"); + ("-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1," + "-misc-simsun-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb18030.2000-0"); } if (font->font == NULL) { /* Can't load any suitable font! */ g_warning ("Can't load any ISO8859-1 font!?! :("); font->font = Page: 15 File: E:\project_back\dillo-0.7.2-chinese.patch 2003-6-20, 8:39:00 - gdk_font_load ("-adobe-helvetica-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"); + gdk_font_load ("-adobe-helvetica-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*," + "-misc-simsun-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb18030.2000-0"); } } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sincerely Yours Xingqiang Wang Embedded Software Division. Neusoft Middleware Technologies Company Neusoft Park, Hun Nan Industrial Area, New & High-Tech Development Zone, Shenyang 110179, PRC TEL:+86-24-83665518 E-mail:wang_xq@neusoft.com Http://www.neusoft.com

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text wrap aroung images?
by JoeHill July 7, 2003

July 7, 2003

I'm curious about why Dillo doesn't wrap text around images, but treats all images as a paragraph IYSWIM. Is this a fault in the way people are doing their html (Slashdot?!), or is it something with Dillo? Not a major issue, but it seems to be a standard thing in HTML. Cheers all! :) -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + ICQ# 279518458 + "Come the millennium month 12, in the home + of the greatest power, the village idiot will come + forth to be acclaimed the leader."--Nostradamus 1555

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Solaris IPv6 DNS and http_proxy segfault
by Todd Carson July 7, 2003

July 7, 2003

I just built dillo on Solaris 9 and I encountered a few issues compiling and running it. I didn't see any mention of these in the bug entries or the list archives, but I'll admit I didn't look for very long, so if any of these have already been dealt with, I apologize. Dillo won't compile on Solaris 9 (and probably earlier versions too) with IPv6 enabled. In dns.c it calls gethostbyname2() for IPv6 name resolution; this function doesn't exist in Solaris, it should use getipnodebyname() or getaddrinfo(). I edited dns.c and replaced the gethostbyname2() call with a call to getipnodebyname(). The diff follows: --- src/dns-dist.c Sun Jul 6 23:29:05 2003 +++ src/dns.c Sun Jul 6 23:33:08 2003 @@ -244,6 +244,7 @@ memcpy(&dh->data[0], host->h_addr_list[i], host->h_length); list = g_slist_append(list, dh); } + freehostent(host); return list; } @@ -260,6 +261,7 @@ struct hostent sh; #endif GSList *hosts = NULL; + int err_num; #ifdef G_DNS_THREADED /* Set this thread to detached state */ @@ -271,9 +273,14 @@ #ifdef ENABLE_IPV6 if (ipv6_enabled) { - host = gethostbyname2(dns_server[channel].hostname, AF_INET6); + host = getipnodebyname(dns_server[channel].hostname, AF_INET6, AI_DEFAULT, &err_num) if (host) - hosts = Dns_note_hosts(hosts, AF_INET6, host); + { + if (host->h_length == 4) + hosts = Dns_note_hosts(hosts, AF_INET, host); + else + hosts = Dns_note_hosts(hosts, AF_INET6, host); + } } #endif This works okay for me, but I'm not a programmer, so it's fairly sloppy, probably introduces new bugs, and could certainly be improved upon. I'm particularly unsure if that's the right place for the freehostent(), or if that's necessary at all. The other issue I ran into was that Dillo will apparently segfault, at least on my system, if the http_proxy environment variable is set and contains only a hostname and port rather than a full URL. Here's the console output: Setting locale to C... dillo_dns_init: Here we go! Cookies: Created file: /home/tc/.dillo/cookies Enabling cookies as from cookiesrc... Nav_open_url: Url=>about:splash< Nav_open_url: Url=>http://dillo.auriga.wearlab.de/< Dns_server [0]: is 0 zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) dillo Again, I'm sorry if these have already been brought up, and I hope I've been somewhat helpful if they haven't. -- Todd Carson | tc(a)telerama.com | GPG: CA8E1FCB ~ Ubi dubium, ibi libertas. ~

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FW: Dillo project Cross-platform build problem re: GTK
by Sean Kelly July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Hello, all - Per Jorge's suggestion, I'm forwarding this message to the group. Perhaps someone here has already done some work on the AMD Alchemy MIPS microprocessor with the Dillo browser(?) Please see my original message below for a description of the problem I am faced with. I will pre-emptively respond with "Unfortunately, no!" to the question of whether or not I can just do the build on the MIPS machine. The reason is that that is a terribly small (poor CPU, low RAM, Flash Disk) machine incapable of supporting the development tools. My current approach is to try and trick the configure script by making it bring up a shell script that I write called "gtk-config" which I will point to in the $PATH environment variable. The output of it will respong to the three queries --cflags, --version and --libs with the responses pertinent to the MIPS target environment while at the same time being executable on the local development environment. Hopefully that'll be sufficient to get it to link everything together successfully. Would appreciate any feedback - I'll post again if the above method is met with any success. Thanks! - Sean -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Arellano Cid [mailto:jcid@softhome.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:43 PM To: Sean Kelly Subject: Re: Dillo project Cross-platform build problem re: GTK Sean, > Hi Jorge, > > I was wondering if you or someone else familiar with the > project might be interested and possibly able to help with a problem > that I am faced with in building Dillo. I have a full development > environment on an x86 machine and am building there for a remote system > which uses an AMD Alchemy MIPS microprocessor. As such, what happens is > all the code compiles successfully, but when the time comes to link it > all together it runs into problems with GTK. Looking over the project's > default configure file, I see that it attempts to execute the gtk-config > program - but this is impossible if the target system is not the same > architecture as the development system! The development system has GTK > on it, but that's for X86 and cannot be linked in. The target GTK > library (libgtk.so) is on the development system as well, but of course > cannot be executed because the target processor is different. > > Since you mention on your project homepage that Dillo aims to be a > multi-platform browser, my hope is that you've by now encountered such a > situation. Can you offer any friendly advice or do you know of a simple, > straight-forward work-around to this problem? It'd be much appreciated, > and I'd certainly be willing to contribute to the project with > bug-fixes, compatability testing on the MIPS architecture and such. > > Thanks in advance! I don't remember, but it seems someone posted something about cross-compiling sometime ago. Please send this same mail to our mailing list so everyone there can read it, and hopefully answer. Cheers Jorge.-

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Re: [Dillo-dev] [PATCH] new version of tab patch, fixes segfault on bookmark
by Frank de Lange July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 04:07:21PM -0700, Victor Sahlstedt wrote: > I commented out the stuff in the function preceeding gboolean hide_tabs and it compiled. > > Great work by the way, I find non-tabbed browsers hardly usable for every-day-usage and as > my window manager of choice is the tabless evilwm it's been a pain uptil now. > > Tack! > > - Victor Sigh... I put the wrong version of the patch on the site... the version on the site has the definition in the old place. So, next version is now on the site: http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank/dillo-20030701-tabs.patch.gz 40887 bytes 20dffde9c0e5f2134492e138ee707cdd (as is) 09b454800f1b53bd83428a2b62d3e618 (uncompressed) If the previous version worked for you, there is no need to upgrade as the changes are only 'code-cosmetical'... As always, keep an eye on the site for the latest version. This patch was made against yesterday's CVS (20030701). Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Hangin with high CPU load
by David McKee July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Folks, I've been using dillo for a number of months now, and it has become my first choice browser--I switch to mozilla or opera only when I have to java, javascript, http/1.1 authentication, ssl and the like. Of late dillo has started getting into a state where all progress stop in all open windows, and it sits on the CPU---keeping my load average at 1.0 Sometimes it recovers after a while, sometime I get fed up and close all windows at the WM manager level. Stopping all the active windows doesn't cure it, nor does closing them. I haven't tried using the `Exit Dillo' menu item, but I'll do so on the next occurrence. This has been with the CVS version(s) over the last few weeks. Two systems, one running redhat 6.2 (I know, I know...), the other Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1. So, two questions: -- Has anyone else observed this behavior? -- Can anyone suggest a good way to diagnose the problem so I can submit a decent bug report? As things stand my understanding is horribly vague. N.B. I seems to happen most when I have opened several links in new windows in rapid succession. Thanks, -- -- David McKee -- dmckee(a)jlab.org -- (757) 269-7492 (Office)

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chinese patch and dillo's bug
by ronnie July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

hi all! 1)I have make dillo-0.7.2 suport chinese .where i put the patch? 2)when you clicking mouse and the draging it to copy something will cause the dillo crash.why? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sincerely Yours Xingqiang Wang Embedded Software Division. Neusoft Middleware Technologies Company Neusoft Park, Hun Nan Industrial Area, New & High-Tech Development Zone, Shenyang 110179, PRC TEL:+86-24-83665518 E-mail:wang_xq@neusoft.com Http://www.neusoft.com

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selection bug
by Joe Crayne July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

click on the image in this page: <html> <body> <a href="http://www.google.com"> <img src="http://www.google.com/images/logo.gif"></a> </body> </html> Dillo will segfault. Apparently, this is because there is no selectable content in the page. a_Dw_ext_iterator_new() is returning NULL at selection.c:152 selection->link = a_Dw_ext_iterator_new (it); selection->link_char = Selection_correct_char_pos (selection->link, char_pos); selection->link_number = link; ret = TRUE; So I tried a naive quick fix: selection->link = a_Dw_ext_iterator_new (it); if( selection->link ) { selection->link_char = Selection_correct_char_pos (selection->link, char_pos); selection->link_number = link; ret = TRUE; } else ret = FALSE; This just moved the bug elsewhere because dillo then segfaulted when I clicked the image and held the button down and moved off of it. Selection_switch_link_to_selection() expects a non NULL iterator.

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java and dillo
by Trevor Warren July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Hey guys, Good-day. Have been looking high and low for a browser thats light weight and supports Java. The dillo homepage ain't saying anything about JVM integration, but Freshmeat does mention about JVM on the project page. Can someone please clarify since a project spec demands we need to be looking at a light weight jvm capable browser. Trevor -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Re: [Dillo-dev] [PATCH] new version of tab patch, fixes segfault on bookmark
by Frank de Lange July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 02:36:25PM -0700, Victor Sahlstedt wrote: > Hi Frank, > I get the following error while compiling the patched Dillo (GCC 2.95.3); > > tab.c: In function `a_Tab_visibility_update': > tab.c:317: syntax error before `hide_tabs' > tab.c:328: `hide_tabs' undeclared (first use in this function) > tab.c:328: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > tab.c:328: for each function it appears in.) > gmake[3]: *** [tab.o] Error 1 > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 This is with the latest version of the patch (the one mentioned in my last message)? Check if the function begins with: (src/tab.c:301-307) /* * set visibility of tab bar */ void a_Tab_visibility_update(BrowserWindow *bw) { gboolean hide_tabs; See, that is where hide_tabs is declared. Your line numbers are off by 10. Makesme wonder if you have the right version... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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[PATCH] new version of tab patch, fixes segfault on bookmark
by Frank de Lange July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Hey'all, Had a minute to spare and a wireless connection in a (very smoky... a filty habit it is indeed...) coffee shop in Cambridge/UK, so I fixed the buglet which made the tabbed version of Dillo segfault on bookmark add. I also cleaned up the code a little, moved some things around to satisfy C99, removed generated files from the patch, etc. No big functional changes (unless you call 'not crashing anymore on bookmark add' a functional change...) I uploaded a new version of the patch to the geocities page (block those popup/under/down/everywhere ads to your heart's content...): http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank/dillo-20030630-tabs.patch.gz 41210 bytes 4e96e122819d9d61a61a07a2cb8557e4 (as is) 27b9923f410a28224957fa40474c901a (uncompressed) I removed the old patch file, and replaced it with a note telling people to download the latest version instead. In general, I keep the patch file on the geocities site up to date, so look there (http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank/) for the last version before submitting bug reports to me/to the list. Also, I removed the generated files (configure, makefile.in) from the patch. So, DO NOT FORGET TO RUN ./autogen.sh after patching! The patch is against the 20030630 CVS version of Dillo. As long as there are no big changes to CVS which touch the tab patch, I will try to follow CVS releases. If this should change before the tab patch is committed, I'll keep to the last CVS release which works with the patch. Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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chinese spport patch for 0.7.2 and dillo's bug.
by ronnie July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

hi all! 1)I have make dillo-0.7.2 suport chinese .where i put the patch? 2)when you clicking mouse and then draging it to copy something will cause the dillo crash.why?

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Dillo RPM for SuSE
by Kelson Vibber June 30, 2003

June 30, 2003

Well, I managed to install SuSE 8.2 on my system. (It wasn't easy, mainly because the installer doesn't seem to be very forgiving of FTP interruptions.) I have a first try at an RPM built on SuSE with the SuSE menu structure. The main thing that's missing is the icon for the menu item. The only places I could find for icons seemed to be in either /opt/kde or /opt/gnome, and I didn't want to place it there. If anyone knows where desktop-independent menu icons should go on SuSE, please tell me! Here are the latest RPM download statistics: 283 Red Hat 9 avg 9.8/day 225 SRPM avg 7.8/day 189 Red Hat 8 avg 6.5/day 174 Red Hat 7 avg 6.0/day 32 Mandrake 9 avg 5.3/day (available for 6 days) 5 SuSE 8 avg 1.7/day (available for 3 days, not announced) The Mandrake stats may catch up with Red Hat 7 after search engines pick up the changes. On the other hand, I have discovered some other Mandrake and SuSE RPMS out there, so some people may be going to those sources instead. Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

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dpi interface ....
by Lars Segerlund June 27, 2003

June 27, 2003

Hi, I'm trying to hack a mailreader dpi for dillo, and I have some code which runs on top of nmh and works decently, ( I looked at exmh :-) ). So now I wan't to know where the dpi's are heading ? Mainly if there is a plan for 'dynamic dpi configuration' and such, i.e. the ability to use a dpi bound at runtime, I have looked at the bookmarks dpi, and since parts of it is compiled into the binary ( the button binding and such ), I am wondering how to handle this in a future safe manner ? ( btw. the mail reader works something like a local webmailer, and I wanted somthing which made extensive use of comand line mail utilities which alredy exist ). So is there a furure target to aim for or do I make it a patch a'la bookmarks ? / regards, Lars Segerlund.

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Looking for Thorben...
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 26, 2003

June 26, 2003

Hi, I've been trying to contact him for a couple of weeks now. Does anyone have some news? Cheers Jorge.-

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Re: [Patch] Search feature and more
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 26, 2003

June 26, 2003

Hi Johan, > Hi! > I've made a few small changes to Dillos interface which I think > improves the browsing experience. The attached tar file contains the > changes separated into three diffs (against todays cvs version) and a > README which I also append to this mail. I hope you'll find them > useful and add them to a future release of dillo. I'd be happy to > answer any questions, comments or suggestions. Although I'm with little time now, I managed to review the patches; they look clean, that's good. Here go my comments. (I'll contact you in the future when I have more time). > dillo-search.diff: > - * Added search feature to location entry/open url. ("s key words...") > (BUG#473) Very interesting, and certainly easy to use. Unfortunately it comes with a kind of interface that's out of the cognitive model behind Dillo's UI. In simple terms it means that users will have to learn how to use it from the help file and that it's not quite oobvious from the GUI and that it is different from what you come to expect when using dillo. The search problem had been in my mind for some time, so I know it is necesary to do something about it. I think that a small icon (like "clear URL box"), shaped as a magnifier, can pop up a dialog (like "Open URL"), but for search. If we add a short-cut for it (Ctrl-s), and the option to hide the icon (as with the rest of the interface icons), it integrates better with the user interface model. > * Added 'search_url' to dillorc. Perfect. The rest of the patch is quite OK! > dillo-accel.diff: > - * Added keyboard shortcuts to > - reload (Ctrl+R). > - full screen (F11). > - select all text in location entry (F8). > - focus location entry (Ctrl+Shift+L) > (BUG#474) > > Files affected: interface.c > > This patch adds a few useful keyboard shortcuts which eases mouse less > browsing. > Most browsers have a focus-and-select the location entry shortcut (Ctrl-L in > mozilla, F8 in opera). I tried to get some feedback on if this was the desired > behaviour for dillo by posting the mailing list, but no one seemed very > interested. I therefore settled on a two shortcut solution; F8 selects all > text and Ctrl-Shift-L just focuses the location entry. In this way you can > easily modify an existing url or just enter a new one without the use of > the open url dialog. > > As I wanted the F8 key to work also within the location entry I had to add > a key press handler to the main window (the existing one just handles > key presses within the view port (docwin)). I decided on this solution since > adding a handler to the location entry didn't seem right and moving the > docwin key press handler to the main window didn't work as this handler gets > called before a text widgets default handler (and thus a backspace in a > html form would trigger back). > > Perhaps a better solution would be two plain accelerators; one for the > clear-location button and one to just focus the location entry. This way > there'd be no need for an extra key press handler. But I figure that > a "global" key press handler may be needed in the future. Am I wrong? > > Maybe Ctrl+L would be a better shortcut to select all text in the location > entry and Ctrl+Shift+L the shortcut to open an open url dialog (as in > Mozilla), but I didn't dare changing the default behaviour without > getting some feedback first. I think: - reload (Ctrl+R). - full screen (F11). could be easily agreed into a short-cut key. The problem is that everybody comes with his favorite set of shortcuts (you'd be amazed to look in my Mailbox!). OTOH this is not rare; evreyone uses some different apps. and get accustomed to different key combinations. I prefer to take Havoc's approach on this: http://www.dillo.org/ui-prefs-tips.html > dillo-focus.diff: > - * Made main document window grab focus on startup and after open url. > (BUG#330) > > Files affected: interface.c > > This is just a two line patch which implements the behaviour found in other > browsers as mozilla and opera. Makes mouse less browsing easier. Well, this is a long time unsolved problem for us :(. Please give a read to my last post about it: http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/pipermail/dillo-dev/2003-June/000770.html If you can make a temporary subscription and send it to the GTK+ list, it'd be a great favor to us. In the meanwhile (or if the post gets no answer), I think your approach will make it into the source as a workaround. Note that if we solve this, it becomes easy to focus the location box (or viewport) in tyhe standard GTK+ way: TAB/ShiftTAb Cheers Jorge.-

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convert mozilla bookmarks to dillo
by Kyle Amon June 25, 2003

June 25, 2003

Hi, I don't subscribe to this list, but I've been sweet on Dillo since about 1997 or 1998 (who knows). Anyway, I just wrote a trivial but usefull perl script to generate a Dillo bm.txt file from a Mozilla bookmarks.html file and thought others might be interested in using it as well. It is attached and posted on my homepage under Software. Enjoy, -- Kyle -- Kyle Amon email: amonk(a)gnutec.com url: http://www.gnutec.com/~amonk KeyID 1024D/4EB96E44 Fingerprint = E9EC 0046 8487 23D7 C91C D757 7B2A 8AE9 4EB9 6E44 "Learning isn't a duty that we must be flogged into performing; it's our birthright, our very human specialty and joy." - Jerry Farber The Student As Nigger This email Copyright 2003 by Kyle Amon, Inc., a Florida corporation, 6002 Palm Shadow Way, Suite 1218, Tampa, FL 33647: (813) 689-4041 amonk(a)gnutec.com http://www.gnutec.com/~amonk. All rights reserved.

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Dillo RPMs updated, Mandrake version available
by Kelson Vibber June 25, 2003

June 25, 2003

Last night I added a Mandrake 9.1 partition and built a Dillo RPM for Mandrake. I made a few changes to put the Dillo menu item and icon in the appropriate place for Mandrake's menus. The SRPM now detects when it's being built on a Mandrake system and places menu info in /usr/lib/menu. Otherwise, it uses /etc/X11/applnk (as before). http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo.html I will probably be making another RPM release in the next few days, patching the splash page to point to www.dillo.org. (In the plain 0.7.2 release, it still points to the wearlab.de site.) Jorge, would it be appropriate to also use the new toolbar icons, or would you prefer I waited until the next official release? Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

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The Dillo web browser and GTK+ (fwd)
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 25, 2003

June 25, 2003

Hi there! Can someone please forward this to gtk-list(a)gnome.org. I sent it once and as I'm not a member it was held for aproval, but it never made its way in. :( If someone here is a member, please send it. If someone knows the answer, better! Thanks a lot Jorge.- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:38:36 -0400 (CLT) From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)softhome.net> To: gtk-list(a)gnome.org Subject: The Dillo web browser and GTK+ Hi! I have two questions: 1) What do I need to do to make the Dillo web browser listed in the GTK+ apps. at www.gtk.org? (Ref: www.dillo.org) 2) Technical: If I have three focusable widgets in a window, pressing TAB/ShiftTAB cycles through them, _BUT_ like this: .-> One -> Two -> Three -> "Nirvana" --. | | '--------------------------------------' (or backwards). And I want it to be: .-> One -> Two -> Three -> --. | | '----------------------------' I have called "Nirvana" a widget(?), that seems to grab the focus (as none of the three widgets has it when at "Nirvana" :) Appended is some example code that illustrates the problem. Thanks in advance Jorge.- PS: Please CC me, as I'm not in the list. ----------------------------------------------------------------- /* focus example. -- GTK+-1.2.x */ #include <gdk/gdk.h> #include <gdk/gdkkeysyms.h> #include <gtk/gtk.h> gint delete_event( GtkWidget *widget, GdkEvent *event, gpointer data ) { return(FALSE); } /* Another callback */ void destroy( GtkWidget *widget, gpointer data ) { gtk_main_quit(); } int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) { GtkWidget *window; GtkWidget *entry; GtkWidget *vbox; gtk_init(&argc, &argv); /* create a new window */ window = gtk_window_new (GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL); GTK_WIDGET_UNSET_FLAGS (window, GTK_CAN_FOCUS); gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (window), "delete_event", GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (delete_event), NULL); gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (window), "destroy", GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (destroy), NULL); /* Create the entries */ vbox = gtk_vbox_new (FALSE, 0); entry = gtk_entry_new(); GTK_WIDGET_SET_FLAGS(entry, GTK_HAS_FOCUS); gtk_widget_set_usize(entry, 140, 0); gtk_entry_set_text(GTK_ENTRY(entry), "One"); gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), entry, FALSE, FALSE, 0); gtk_widget_show (entry); entry = gtk_entry_new(); gtk_widget_set_usize(entry, 140, 0); gtk_entry_set_text(GTK_ENTRY(entry), "Two"); gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), entry, FALSE, FALSE, 0); gtk_widget_show (entry); entry = gtk_entry_new(); gtk_widget_set_usize(entry, 140, 0); gtk_entry_set_text(GTK_ENTRY(entry), "Three"); gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox), entry, FALSE, FALSE, 0); gtk_widget_show (entry); gtk_container_add(GTK_CONTAINER (window), vbox); gtk_widget_show (vbox); gtk_widget_show (window); /* Start */ gtk_main (); return(0); } -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Save Link as File dialog
by Albert Wagner June 25, 2003

June 25, 2003

How might I change the "Save Link as File dialog" so that the default directory is something other than ~ ?

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Save Link as File dialog
by Albert Wagner June 25, 2003

June 25, 2003

How might I change the "Save Link as File dialog" so that the default directory is something other than ~ ?

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InternetSeer- Account Set Up
by Mike Dever June 25, 2003

June 25, 2003

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Entities &#ascii_equivalent; behavior question in dilo 0.7.2
by Ronald W. Henderson June 24, 2003

June 24, 2003

Folks: I'm new to dillo. I have compiled version 0.7.2 on redhat v9.0. It seems to work ok. I noticed that when displaying the google home page (http://www.google.com) I get the following html source displayed for "&#ascii_equivalent" entities: Examplr: In front of "Advanced Search" I get "• Advanced Search". Question is this normal behavior? Do I have a configuration issue? Thanks in advanced... ---Ronald W. Henderson

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Any interest in non-RedHat RPMs?
by Kelson Vibber June 21, 2003

June 21, 2003

Right now I've got RPMs for Red Hat 7.3, 8.0, and 9.0 available at http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo.html . I've got my computer triple-booting into all 3 versions in order to build these. I also have a whole lot of unused space on my drive, so it would be possible to set up another partition or two to build RPMs for (an)other distribution(s). A few months ago I tried out both Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 9.1, before settling again on Red Hat - so I have the Mandrake CDs available. And assuming that SuSe has rpmbuild in their free version, I could probably download that if there was enough interest. I may also be able to get access to a Power Macintosh and experiment with something like Yellow Dog. So would anyone here be interested in additional RPMs, or do you think the SRPM is enough? Kelson Vibber kelson(a)pobox.com

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transient find-dialog
by Andreas Zwinkau June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

Hi I use ion as my window manager and i found that the find-dialog is not marked 'transient', but a normal window. This is not a good behaviour in my eyes, i have to configure ion manually to treat it as transient. I must admit i do not fully know, what transient means, but it seems bad to me to have to configure such things myself. mfg Andreas Zwinkau | web: andi.dasstellenwirinsinternet.de | mail: andi(a)buxach.de | jabber: beza1e1(a)amessage.de

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Re: [Dillo] Charset representation patch
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Nikita V. Borodikhin wrote: > Hello, Jorge ! > > Jorge, I'm sorry for annoying you but can you say anything about > the future of this charset representation patch also posted to > dillo-dev list at Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:40:24 +0700 ? > > Some time after that (2003/06/12 20:51:00) you add 0x2022 code > to UCStolatin1 handler so this patch differs from mailing list one > in one line. This is at least my third answer to this not high priority issue. From my previous response, still this concern remains unanswered: > (I wrote) > > Finally, I can't see (yet) how having this entitites character > representation helps when using another character set (as with > the russian encoding workaround), unless you first convert the > regular HTML character encoding into the current locale! > Certainly a hairy problem, and one of the main reasons for GTK+2 > design decision of using UCS instead of the current locale as its > internal representation. Now, considering that the default dillo uses Latin1, after reviewing the patch, I found 38% of the big representations table is useless... (and there are other things). > I know you are now hard-working but this patch is not too big > to review... Yes, it is not too big to read, but the work behind integrating a patch is certainly bigger than the patch itself. Most of the time it involves reviewing some RFCs, the internal working structure of the browser in that matter, performance issues, impact, internal standards, future, an so on. IMHO, this is not my duty to do, but the patch sender's, and when I see it was done losely, certainly it discourages me from working on it. If it regards a matter with low priority, then I have one more reason... Now, considering that I have excellent patches in the queue to review (with versions, research, README, Documentation, explanations...), I feel really guilty for dedicating much time to other stuff, but I hope this explanation serves everyone. > Once more sorry. I'm also sorry. Jorge.-

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Tabbed version of Dillo, remarks
by Frank de Lange June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

One last thing before I go to sleep... As already stated in the documentation (doc/DilloDoc.txt, but who reads documentation anyway?), the tabbed version of Dillo sometimes (to be specific, when loading a tab in the background) produces Gdk_CRITICAL messages on stderr. Like these: Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow.c: line 1274 (gdk_window_set_cursor): assertion `window != NULL' failed. These messages come from deep within dw_widget (line 706), and seem to be caused by an error/a bug in the widget. What seems to happen is that the widget tries to reset the cursor for a non-existing window (gdk_window_set_cursor (GTK_LAYOUT(viewport)->bin_window, NULL while the viewport does not yes have a bin_window defined). Sebastian, any input on this? Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Re: [Dillo-dev] Tabbed version of Dillo
by Frank de Lange June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

Andreas Schweitzer wrote: > Hi, > > >>Yes, it does facilitate the development of a frames-capable Dillo. I >>have some ideas about how to implement this, and might implement it >>after the tab code is ready for first release. > > > If the "might" should not happen, I'll certainly look into it :-) Well, the weekend is nearly over and I have not used a computer other than to send this message, so it'll definitely be somewhere coming week for the first release of dillo/tabs. By theway, do not let me possibly working on tabs withold you from doing the same... > Oh, one thing : Sebastian Geerken is the one responsible for > the widget part - unless he already mailed you :-) Ack, have not seen mail from him... Sebastian, maybe dw_gtk_scrolled_window needs a method to remove the gadget? I re-use the BrowserWindow's full_screen_off_button gadget in all tabs (reparenting it when needed), but I have to forcibly NULLify the window->gadget attribute to be able to add a new gadget to a dw_gtk_scrolled_window. It is not 'right' to mess with interal widget structures... or am I missing something? The code does not seem to provide a way to remove the gadget once it has been defined. Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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[RFC] Plans for next version of tab patch
by Frank de Lange June 18, 2003

June 18, 2003

Hej! Now that the first release of my tab patch is 'out there', I'd like to give a short overview of my plans for the next version of this patch. I do not know when I'll be able to release this next version, as I'm busy this week, followed by a trip to the UK (back the 13th of juli), but I will try to make it relatively soon... Anyway, some plans: Architecture ------------ - further separate interface code out of document code (interface messages currently go directly to the interface, some mediation might be necessary) Functionality ------------- - focus tab contents on tab switch (so key navigation works correctly without having to first click in the tab pane) - focus location bar on switch to empty tab/new tab - new empty tab should show/focus, even when 'tab load in background' is set - after tab delete, switch to NEXT tab instead of PREVIOUS (like mozilla) Coding ------ - clean up code organisation (declarations before g_return/comments) Bugs ---- - full screen off widget does not show after tab switch in full screen (probably hidden, it IS reparented) There might be more, or less. Let me know. Jorge, let me know if/when you plan to commit the patch to CVS Sebastian, do you have any suggestions as to why dw_widget tries to set the cursor on a non-existing bin_window in the mouse event code? See my earlier message on the Gdk-CRITICAL messages which sometimes appear when opening a document in a tab in the background... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Anti-Tab
by Andreas Zwinkau June 18, 2003

June 18, 2003

I just want to throw in, that tabbing may be a bloat-feature. Just because every modern browser has it and everybody wants it, i needn't to be necessary. I watched a similar discussion some time ago and a wise argument convinced me, that tabbing is not a task for a browser. Before you call me loony, listen. Tabbing is about handling different windows, but handling windows is nothing a browser should do. Leave to the programs, which are made for especially that: Window Managers! Tabbing should not be implemented in a browser, but in the window manager. Sorry, if KDE and Gnome don't support it (i think, am i wrong?) Just my 2ct ;) mfg Andreas Zwinkau | web: andi.dasstellenwirinsinternet.de | mail: andi(a)buxach.de | jabber: beza1e1(a)amessage.de

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Location entry shortcuts
by Johan Hovold June 18, 2003

June 18, 2003

Hi! First I'd like to say thank you to every developer of dillo. For a long time I've been looking for a small and fast browser, and the recent development of opera has made this need even more acute. I've been working on a few improvements to dillos interface, which I will submit shortly, but there one thing I could use some advice on. I'm not a great fan of extensive mouse usage and would therefore like to have a shortcut to focus the location entry. In Mozilla and Opera ctrl-l and F8 respectively, focuses the location entry and selects its contents. Is this the way to go for dillo? Or is it better with one accelerator for location entry "grab_focus" (just focus) and one for the clear button "clicked" (clear and focus). I you prefer the first variant; should this shortcut also be available from within the location entry (one could instead use ctrl-a, ctrl-k), or just when the main document window has focus? The reason for the last question is that the current key_press_handler which handles backspace and '/' is connected to the main document window, and hence doesn't receive signals from the location entry. When I tried to connect it to the main window, a backspace in a form (or in the location bar) would trigger "back". Why is this? Why doesn't the the current key_press_handler receive signals when entering text in a form? Johan Hovold

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RE: [Dillo-dev] [RFC] Plans for next version of tab patch
by Eric Gaudet June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

> I'd advise you to choose a date from CVS and improve the patch > against it (not trying to catch up with current); that way the > patch can be polished without too much hassle and with the > feedback of interested developers. > I recommend we tag cvs for such things, to get an easy reference, or better yet, we branch, so merging is easy.

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