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Any interest in non-RedHat RPMs?
by Kelson Vibber June 21, 2003

June 21, 2003

Right now I've got RPMs for Red Hat 7.3, 8.0, and 9.0 available at http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo.html . I've got my computer triple-booting into all 3 versions in order to build these. I also have a whole lot of unused space on my drive, so it would be possible to set up another partition or two to build RPMs for (an)other distribution(s). A few months ago I tried out both Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 9.1, before settling again on Red Hat - so I have the Mandrake CDs available. And assuming that SuSe has rpmbuild in their free version, I could probably download that if there was enough interest. I may also be able to get access to a Power Macintosh and experiment with something like Yellow Dog. So would anyone here be interested in additional RPMs, or do you think the SRPM is enough? Kelson Vibber kelson(a)pobox.com

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transient find-dialog
by Andreas Zwinkau June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

Hi I use ion as my window manager and i found that the find-dialog is not marked 'transient', but a normal window. This is not a good behaviour in my eyes, i have to configure ion manually to treat it as transient. I must admit i do not fully know, what transient means, but it seems bad to me to have to configure such things myself. mfg Andreas Zwinkau | web: andi.dasstellenwirinsinternet.de | mail: andi(a)buxach.de | jabber: beza1e1(a)amessage.de

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Re: [Dillo] Charset representation patch
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Nikita V. Borodikhin wrote: > Hello, Jorge ! > > Jorge, I'm sorry for annoying you but can you say anything about > the future of this charset representation patch also posted to > dillo-dev list at Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:40:24 +0700 ? > > Some time after that (2003/06/12 20:51:00) you add 0x2022 code > to UCStolatin1 handler so this patch differs from mailing list one > in one line. This is at least my third answer to this not high priority issue. From my previous response, still this concern remains unanswered: > (I wrote) > > Finally, I can't see (yet) how having this entitites character > representation helps when using another character set (as with > the russian encoding workaround), unless you first convert the > regular HTML character encoding into the current locale! > Certainly a hairy problem, and one of the main reasons for GTK+2 > design decision of using UCS instead of the current locale as its > internal representation. Now, considering that the default dillo uses Latin1, after reviewing the patch, I found 38% of the big representations table is useless... (and there are other things). > I know you are now hard-working but this patch is not too big > to review... Yes, it is not too big to read, but the work behind integrating a patch is certainly bigger than the patch itself. Most of the time it involves reviewing some RFCs, the internal working structure of the browser in that matter, performance issues, impact, internal standards, future, an so on. IMHO, this is not my duty to do, but the patch sender's, and when I see it was done losely, certainly it discourages me from working on it. If it regards a matter with low priority, then I have one more reason... Now, considering that I have excellent patches in the queue to review (with versions, research, README, Documentation, explanations...), I feel really guilty for dedicating much time to other stuff, but I hope this explanation serves everyone. > Once more sorry. I'm also sorry. Jorge.-

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Tabbed version of Dillo, remarks
by Frank de Lange June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

One last thing before I go to sleep... As already stated in the documentation (doc/DilloDoc.txt, but who reads documentation anyway?), the tabbed version of Dillo sometimes (to be specific, when loading a tab in the background) produces Gdk_CRITICAL messages on stderr. Like these: Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow.c: line 1274 (gdk_window_set_cursor): assertion `window != NULL' failed. These messages come from deep within dw_widget (line 706), and seem to be caused by an error/a bug in the widget. What seems to happen is that the widget tries to reset the cursor for a non-existing window (gdk_window_set_cursor (GTK_LAYOUT(viewport)->bin_window, NULL while the viewport does not yes have a bin_window defined). Sebastian, any input on this? Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Re: [Dillo-dev] Tabbed version of Dillo
by Frank de Lange June 19, 2003

June 19, 2003

Andreas Schweitzer wrote: > Hi, > > >>Yes, it does facilitate the development of a frames-capable Dillo. I >>have some ideas about how to implement this, and might implement it >>after the tab code is ready for first release. > > > If the "might" should not happen, I'll certainly look into it :-) Well, the weekend is nearly over and I have not used a computer other than to send this message, so it'll definitely be somewhere coming week for the first release of dillo/tabs. By theway, do not let me possibly working on tabs withold you from doing the same... > Oh, one thing : Sebastian Geerken is the one responsible for > the widget part - unless he already mailed you :-) Ack, have not seen mail from him... Sebastian, maybe dw_gtk_scrolled_window needs a method to remove the gadget? I re-use the BrowserWindow's full_screen_off_button gadget in all tabs (reparenting it when needed), but I have to forcibly NULLify the window->gadget attribute to be able to add a new gadget to a dw_gtk_scrolled_window. It is not 'right' to mess with interal widget structures... or am I missing something? The code does not seem to provide a way to remove the gadget once it has been defined. Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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[RFC] Plans for next version of tab patch
by Frank de Lange June 18, 2003

June 18, 2003

Hej! Now that the first release of my tab patch is 'out there', I'd like to give a short overview of my plans for the next version of this patch. I do not know when I'll be able to release this next version, as I'm busy this week, followed by a trip to the UK (back the 13th of juli), but I will try to make it relatively soon... Anyway, some plans: Architecture ------------ - further separate interface code out of document code (interface messages currently go directly to the interface, some mediation might be necessary) Functionality ------------- - focus tab contents on tab switch (so key navigation works correctly without having to first click in the tab pane) - focus location bar on switch to empty tab/new tab - new empty tab should show/focus, even when 'tab load in background' is set - after tab delete, switch to NEXT tab instead of PREVIOUS (like mozilla) Coding ------ - clean up code organisation (declarations before g_return/comments) Bugs ---- - full screen off widget does not show after tab switch in full screen (probably hidden, it IS reparented) There might be more, or less. Let me know. Jorge, let me know if/when you plan to commit the patch to CVS Sebastian, do you have any suggestions as to why dw_widget tries to set the cursor on a non-existing bin_window in the mouse event code? See my earlier message on the Gdk-CRITICAL messages which sometimes appear when opening a document in a tab in the background... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Anti-Tab
by Andreas Zwinkau June 18, 2003

June 18, 2003

I just want to throw in, that tabbing may be a bloat-feature. Just because every modern browser has it and everybody wants it, i needn't to be necessary. I watched a similar discussion some time ago and a wise argument convinced me, that tabbing is not a task for a browser. Before you call me loony, listen. Tabbing is about handling different windows, but handling windows is nothing a browser should do. Leave to the programs, which are made for especially that: Window Managers! Tabbing should not be implemented in a browser, but in the window manager. Sorry, if KDE and Gnome don't support it (i think, am i wrong?) Just my 2ct ;) mfg Andreas Zwinkau | web: andi.dasstellenwirinsinternet.de | mail: andi(a)buxach.de | jabber: beza1e1(a)amessage.de

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Location entry shortcuts
by Johan Hovold June 18, 2003

June 18, 2003

Hi! First I'd like to say thank you to every developer of dillo. For a long time I've been looking for a small and fast browser, and the recent development of opera has made this need even more acute. I've been working on a few improvements to dillos interface, which I will submit shortly, but there one thing I could use some advice on. I'm not a great fan of extensive mouse usage and would therefore like to have a shortcut to focus the location entry. In Mozilla and Opera ctrl-l and F8 respectively, focuses the location entry and selects its contents. Is this the way to go for dillo? Or is it better with one accelerator for location entry "grab_focus" (just focus) and one for the clear button "clicked" (clear and focus). I you prefer the first variant; should this shortcut also be available from within the location entry (one could instead use ctrl-a, ctrl-k), or just when the main document window has focus? The reason for the last question is that the current key_press_handler which handles backspace and '/' is connected to the main document window, and hence doesn't receive signals from the location entry. When I tried to connect it to the main window, a backspace in a form (or in the location bar) would trigger "back". Why is this? Why doesn't the the current key_press_handler receive signals when entering text in a form? Johan Hovold

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RE: [Dillo-dev] [RFC] Plans for next version of tab patch
by Eric Gaudet June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

> I'd advise you to choose a date from CVS and improve the patch > against it (not trying to catch up with current); that way the > patch can be polished without too much hassle and with the > feedback of interested developers. > I recommend we tag cvs for such things, to get an easy reference, or better yet, we branch, so merging is easy.

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Suggestion for a next dillo version
by Manuel Serrano June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

Hello there, first of all, many thanks for making Dillo available. I'm using it on a daily basis. It does almost anything I want of my web browser (nearly may be CSS2 but this is not the purpose of this mail :-). I like the new feature of 0.7.2 that enables to hide the navigation bar. I was wondering if it could be possible to have an automatic hidden bar such as in many window manager (fluxbox, kde, gnone, ...). That is the navigation bar is automatically hidden until the mouse fly over the very top lines. If the mouse fly over these lines, it automatically appears... Do you think that it would be difficult to implement this feature in a coming version? Many thanks in advance and one more time, thanks for making Dillo available. -- Manuel

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IFRAME element stub
by Nikita V. Borodikhin June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

Hi all Dillo developers ! There is a very small patch to support IFRAME HTML element. It does nothing except handling IFRAME via FRAME handler so special IFAME attributes (width and height) are not handled but this patch is suitable for current temporary solution (as we do not have real frame support for now). Your, Nikita diff -pruN dillo/src/html.c dillo-iframe/src/html.c --- dillo/src/html.c 2003-06-06 14:13:00.000000000 +0700 +++ dillo-iframe/src/html.c 2003-06-11 16:50:54.000000000 +0700 @@ -3795,6 +3795,7 @@ static const TagInfo Tags[] = { {"hr", Html_tag_open_hr, Html_tag_close_nop}, /* html */ {"i", Html_tag_open_i, Html_tag_close_default}, + {"iframe", Html_tag_open_frame, Html_tag_close_nop}, {"img", Html_tag_open_img, Html_tag_close_nop}, {"input", Html_tag_open_input, Html_tag_close_nop}, /* ins */

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[PATCH] Tabbed version of Dillo, now available on geocities
by Frank de Lange June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

Hiya! I put my patch for a tabbed version of Dillo on a geocities page, so if you are quick you might be able to download it before Yahoo? shuts it down because the site has exceeded its puny transfer allowance. Get it here: http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank/dillo-20030615-tabs.patch.gz md5sum: dae3cc4bb8c6c31050abaf8013a7e973 As said, this patch applies to today's (well, yesterday's) CVS version of Dillo. Good Luck//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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dillo tabbed version
by linux seaq June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

HI, everybody just reporting a succesful compilation of tabbed dillo. 'til now its working flawlessly. Thanks a lot for it.

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[PATCH] Tabbed version of Dillo
by Frank de Lange June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

FYI As promised, I now have a patch ready which implements tabbed browsing. The patch is quite big (173586 bytes, 42305 gzipped), so I think it is not a good idea to send it to the mailing list. As I currently do not have a webserver handy I can not put it on my site like I used to do when times were good and broadband was available (1-0 for The Netherlands - Sweden). Why is the patch so big? Well, it touches many files (37 source and header files, 6 other files) in Dillo, as it moves around some code and adds some more. The moving around is mostly due to the fact that, to implement tabs, I had to split 'document' from 'interface' logic in Dillo. In the current (non-patched) version of Dillo, the 'document' (everything related to a single browsing session in a single window) code is spread out over several files (interface.c, nav.c, web.c, html.c, plain.c, etc...). For tabs (and, later, frames) this does not work well, since a single browser window can contain several individual browsing sessions (tabs, frames (when implemented)). I solved this by putting all document-related stuff in a new abstraction, the 'DilloDoc' (defined in browser.h). DilloDoc contains the document-related stuff from BrowserWindow, progress data and document state info (the 'ready' bit) and - currently - the document-specific widgets (docwin, pagemark menu). Tab-specific stuff can be found in src/tab.c|h. As I know that not everybody wants to have tab functionality in the browser - it can also be implemented at the window manager level - I made the tabbed feature optional. To compile Dillo without tabs, use the --disable-tabs option, and there will be no tab-specific code in your binary. I did some tests with regard to 'code bloat' on the current, new (tabs disabled) en new (tabs enabled) versions of Dillo, which show a binary code size increase of about 7500 bytes for the tab feature. This is not to bad I think. The results of these tests can be found in the doc/Browser_Tabs.txt document (which comes with the patch). So, list, tell me what to do... Do you want your mailboxes to overflow, shall I send the patch to a select few, shall I wrap it in tar paper and bury it? I have already sent it to Jorge and the individuals who expressed interest in having a look at it, but I have had several requests from people on the list to send the patch to the list as well. As I have only a puny modem line here in Sweden, I do not relish the prospect of having to send the patch to loads of individuals. You decide. Oh, and I will be off-line between the 23d of june and the 13th of juli, so please let me know beforehand... Also, as the patch is against today's CVS version of Dillo, it has a relatively short shelf life. So, let me know, or (Jorge) apply it to CVS so others can have a go at it. Go'natt//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Re: [Dillo-dev] [PATCH] Tabbed version of Dillo, now available on geocities
by Frank de Lange June 17, 2003

June 17, 2003

Todd Slater wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 02:07:20 +0200 > Frank de Lange <frank(a)unternet.org> wrote: > > >>Todd Slater wrote: > > >>>This is great, Frank! How does one apply the patch? >>>Todd >> >>First, take a chicken... >> >>Well, no, skip the chicken, get the CVS version of Dillo instead (see >>the Dillo website for how to do this). Go to the base directory >>(/usr/src/dillo-cvs/dillo or something like that), and apply the patch >>using something like zcat name_of_gzipped_patch_file|patch -p1. If >>everything went allright, you now have a patched version of Dillo. >> >>So: >> get CVS version of Dillo >> get patch >> cd /to/where/you/put/dillo >> zcat /where/you/put/dillo-20030615-tabs.patch.gz | patch -p1 >> >> ./autogen.sh (this rebuilds the auto*tools files) >> ./configure (with the usual options like --prefix=, etc) >> (if you want to DISABLE tabs, use --disable-tabs after configure) >> make >> su -c 'make uninstall && make install' >> >>But, err, you already knew that, or you would not be subscribed to a >>developers list, right? >> >>It is late, I should sleep now. >> >>Go'Natt//Frank > > > I was looking forward to the chicken! > > I thought that's what I was supposed to do; however, I get this: > > [todd@clevername dillo]$ zcat ../dillo-20030615-tabs.patch.gz | patch > -p1 > patching file ChangeLog > can't find file to patch at input line 21 > Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? > The text leading up to this was: > -------------------------- > |diff -pruN dillo/configure dillot/configure > |--- dillo/configure 2003-05-26 14:08:02.000000000 +0200 > |+++ dillot/configure 2003-06-13 19:38:12.000000000 +0200 > -------------------------- > File to patch: > > Do I need to specify the file, or is something else wrong? > > BTW, I'm in the dillo directory when I do this, not the src directory. > Correct? > > Sorry for being such a bonehead! > > Todd You need to run ./autogen.sh on the CVS version of Dillo first (this creates the configure file, and other files), or just skip this file (and the others it might complain about). I might remove the 'generated' files from the next version of the patch - which will result in people asking why they do not get the new configure options (because they forgot to run ./autogen.sh after applying the patch...) Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Strange condition in cache.c old code
by Nikita V. Borodikhin June 15, 2003

June 15, 2003

Hello old Dillo developers ! Explain me please what is 1024 in the following code for. I read HTML and HTTP/1.1 (rfc2616) specifications but didn't find an answer. I think this condition must be wiped out because some servers (linux.org.ru for example) give too long responses. Code from cache.c revision 1.2, Tue Aug 29 00:36:27 2000 UTC, 2 years, 9 months ago by shaleh: /* * Process redirections (HTTP 30x answers) * (This is a work in progress --not finished yet) */ int Cache_redirect(CacheData_t *entry, int Flags, BrowserWindow *bw) { if ( ((entry->Flags & CA_Redirect) && entry->Location) && ((entry->Flags & CA_ForceRedirect) || !entry->ValidSize || entry->ValidSize < 1024 ) ) { Yours, Nikita

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Tabbed version of Dillo
by Frank de Lange June 13, 2003

June 13, 2003

Hiya, I have finally found some time to work on my tabbed version of Dillo, which I mailed about last week. I hope to have it ready for first release in a few days. If anyone is planning extensive architectural changes to one of these files in the next few days, please let me know: interface.c html.c web.c nav.c plain.c cache.c capi.c browser.h Some other changes I made: - I separated the pagemark functionality into its own file, and renamed the functions from 'pagemarks' to a_Pagemark_... files pagemark.c/h - new files for tab and document functionality files tab.c/h, doc.c/h There is still quite a bit of 'interface' code in the document rendering path (just do a search for a_Interface_ and see from where these functions are called...). This needs to be dealt with for implementation of frames. I'm currently looking at this, but I will probably not implement it before I release the patch. Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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gtk-list@gnome.org
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 12, 2003

June 12, 2003

Hi, Is anyone here member of "gtk-list(a)gnome.org"? I sent an email some days ago there and it is being "held" for aproval because I'm not a member. If someone has a membership there please let me know to forward my message through him. Thanks Jorge.-

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New program icons (not toolbars)
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 11, 2003

June 11, 2003

Hy Guys! Just look at the new stuff at: http://www.dillo.org/Icons/ Enjoy Jorge.- PS: Poll is over, we all agreed on making JG's icons the default!!!

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the #anchor links not going to history
by Jan Stary June 10, 2003

June 10, 2003

Hello, there seems to be the following problem with the history of browsing: If first.html contains a link <a href="second.html">, then clicking on it gets you to second.html - OK. If second.html contains a link <a href=#"anchor"> pointing to a place in second.html, then clicking on the link gets you to #anchor - OK. But then, when you press [,] to go back, you get back to first.thml. Definitely, you want [,] to get you back to the beginning of second.html. It looks like the #anchor links don't go into the 'stack of previous places'. I don't mean that second.html#anchor should be remembered as a unique record in browser history (e.g. for future runs, after dillo supports it), but definitely it's a step 'forward from second.html', so going 'back' should go to second.html, not first.html. Cheers Jan

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Workaround for bugs 396 & 445 (entities display)
by Nikita V. Borodikhin June 9, 2003

June 9, 2003

Hello, all Dillo developers ! As mentioned in HTML 4.01 spec what should be done when html renderer cannot display a symbol is up to renderer. Current code renders all characters with code 0..255 but skip all the others silently. I prefer lynx/links approach to this problem. If they should display symbol which cannot be displayed properly in current locale they render ascii-only representation of this symbol, e.g. "α" -> "a", "Χ" -> "X", "&lowast;" -> "*". Included small patch does that for all entities mentioned in html.c and this table is much more compact than links' one and does not allow transliteration of foreign language as links does. I believe that this patch is a temporary solution for this problem and when dillo migrates on GTK2 and this problem will be solved mush more reliable and elegant way by using standard symbol fonts via fontsets. I should mention also that if your encodings is not ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1) then you should probably use Russian patch http://stuphead.asplinux.ru/dillo/index.html for localization. It shall be updated soon to translate entities to your encoding and show representations for others. Yours, Nikita

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can't connect remote host!!
by ronnie June 9, 2003

June 9, 2003

hi all! I'm new user dillo and the first question is the dillo can't connect remote host .I have set the file "dillorc" in the path ~/.dillo/dillorc : # Set the proxy information for http #http_proxy=http://localhost:8080/ http_proxy=http://localhost:8080/-------which need username and passwd; once I set the proxy as :http_proxy=http://proxy.neusoft.com:8080/ It still can't connect remote host. additional I set : # When using a proxy, this sets the domains to access without proxy. # (separated with a single space -- see examples below) #no_proxy = ".mynet.com" #no_proxy = ".mynet.com .other.net .foo.bar.org" no_proxy = ".web.neusoft.com"-----Url our company internal. all of those setting can't make dillo connect any host! could you help me sir ? ********************************************* Sincerely Yours Wang Xingqiang Embedded Software Division. Neusoft Middleware Technologies Company Neusoft Park, Hun Nan Industrial Area, New & High-Tech Development Zone, Shenyang 110179, PRC TEL:+86-24-83665518 E-mail:wang_xq@neusoft.com Http://www.neusoft.com

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chinese support!!
by ronnie June 9, 2003

June 9, 2003

hi all! I insert follow into the dw_style.c's Dw_style_font_relize : strcat (fontname, "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\ -*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-gb2312.1980-0,*-r-*"); font->font = gdk_fontset_load(fontname); // font->font = gdk_font_load (fontname); and then dillo can display chinese but the window can not show properly . However dillo-0.7.2 dose not suport pango and is based on gtk-1.2 ,the most important is dillo dose not internationlize .Why this change can make dillo display chinese ? I'm so puzzling! ********************************************* Sincerely Yours Wang Xingqiang Embedded Software Division. Neusoft Middleware Technologies Company Neusoft Park, Hun Nan Industrial Area, New & High-Tech Development Zone, Shenyang 110179, PRC TEL:+86-24-83665518 E-mail:wang_xq@neusoft.com Http://www.neusoft.com

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Re: [Dillo-dev] HTTPS support
by CHEE BIN HOH June 9, 2003

June 9, 2003

On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 21:51, Madis Janson wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > The "http to https proxy" is what I call dpi! > > > > I'm working very hard with Ferdi extending the dpi1 design with > > a general plugin manager. We have working code and it had gone > > great on tests. I hope to commit the first version in a week or > > so. > > > Great! > > > > This will ease the process of understanding and developing a > > dpi. I hoped all the concepts and internal working to be clear > > from the dpi1 spec and the bookmarks server code, but it is > > certainly very complex to understand it fully (inside and outside > > of dillo and inside the dpi and within the CCC for dpi). > > It would be useful, if you could put some of the basic dpi server > functionality into a simple library (so dpi tag parsing does not have > to be reimplemented in every dpi server written in C). > > > > Now, as I'm not an HTTPS expert, I don't know what interactions > > will be required to support https fully. That is what data > > exchanges/questions/ are required for each operation. > > > > For instance, when the server's certificate can't be verified > > (by the https dpi in this case), the user must be asked whether > > to accept it under this doubt. This will traduce into a dpi > > command sent to dillo, something like: > > > > <dpi cmd='question' srv='https' > > text='Accept unverified connection from this server?' > > options='YES|NO'> > > > > Then dillo will make the window, ask the user, and send the > > answer back: > > > > <dpi cmd='answer' srv='https' answer='YES'> > > > > ...and the https dpi can resume. > > It would be nice, if some certificate fields (issuer, dates) and > certificate MD5/SHA1 hashes would be also shown to the user. This > allows user to verify the certificate hash in a rare case, when > (s)he has got the hash previously using some trusted channel > (printed to paper for example). > > > > Appart from this one, what else is required? > > That I don't know in detail. <-- (this is a question!) > > On the connection side, nothing. Some way for adding trusted certificates > is needed. This could be achieved by coping these certificate files to > certain directory (like .dillo/certificates), although it is _maybe_ > easier for user, when this can be done using some file open dialog (which > will tell the dpi plugin to get the file from specified location). I think > the dialog way of adding certificates is not essential (notably, because > its a very rare activity). > how about adding client side certificate into the https proxy (dpi plugin), certain website might requires a client certificate (which user can obtain from them), it is good if we can allow the user to add a file certificate so or allow another level of plugin to retrieve the client certificate from like smartcard, or other entity, so the https proxy can verify the client with the server. But this happen very rare. -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chee Bin HOH (cbhoh) iVEST Department, Mimos Bhd, Technology Park Malaysia, 57000, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. http://www.mimos.my http://www.ivest.com.my -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JkDQAlAFlqwDyl4RAqrhAKClZ50SvSMPeMWYEHbGKQDnfN5FQwCg4JGH u4FBpHbJTKfskuJiS9BjP2o= =pnCn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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can not connect remote web!
by ronnie June 8, 2003

June 8, 2003

hello everyone! I have installed dillo on my pc(redhat 7.2) and find it's perfect.But I can connect any remote web through our company proxy .can you tell me how set the proxy in dillo and make me enjoy the lightweight browser? ********************************************* Sincerely Yours Wang Xingqiang Embedded Software Division. Neusoft Middleware Technologies Company Neusoft Park, Hun Nan Industrial Area, New & High-Tech Development Zone, Shenyang 110179, PRC TEL:+86-24-83665518 E-mail:wang_xq@neusoft.com Http://www.neusoft.com

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Tabbed version of Dillo
by Frank de Lange June 6, 2003

June 6, 2003

FYI, I have added the often-requested 'tabbed browsing' feature to dillo. Even though it works fine, I want to finish the patch before I send it off for inclusion (or rejection, see below). To add this feature, I have created a new 'document' abstraction in Dillo, the 'DilloDoc'. This contains all data related to a single 'browser document' (including navigation history, etc), many parts of which used to reside in the 'BrowserWindow'. This was necessary to separate 'interface' functionality from 'document' functionality, as a tabbed browser can have 'document' activity going on in the background (eg. load a tab in the background while reading another tab, etc). When ready, I'll send a patch to jcid(a)softhome.net. <OT> I know that tabbed functionality can also be implemented at the window manager level, but I happen to like having it in the browser itself. It also saves memory compared to having several instances of Dillo loaded, which fits in nicely with Dillo's 'philosophy'. </OT> Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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HTTPS support
by Madis Janson June 6, 2003

June 6, 2003

I wrote a http to https proxy and simple patch to make dillo to start this up (when some https query is made) and forward https queries through unix domain socket to the proxy. Server certificate chains verification is not implemented (yet). It probably could be made into a dpi plugin in future, but currently dpi seemed to lack some needed properties (like forwarding full http querys with cookies to the proxy), which are used by the patch and proxy interface. oh and it could be get here: http://www.zone.ee/myzz/dillo/sslgw-0.1.tar.gz -- mzz

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dillo.org
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 5, 2003

June 5, 2003

Hi there! Have you tried http://www.dillo.org ? :-) Cheers Jorge.-

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confirm 681396
by ronnie June 5, 2003

June 5, 2003

********************************************* Sincerely Yours Wang Xingqiang Embedded Software Division. Neusoft Middleware Technologies Company Neusoft Park, Hun Nan Industrial Area, New & High-Tech Development Zone, Shenyang 110179, PRC TEL:+86-24-83665518 E-mail:wang_xq@neusoft.com Http://www.neusoft.com

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Icons poll
by Jorge Arellano Cid June 4, 2003

June 4, 2003

Hi there, I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder whether to make them the default. So this poll is open! (but closed to dillo-dev) Cheers Jorge.-

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Self Employed Health Insurance - Free Quotes! zg fm jsgdidohrrskt
by besthealthplan2457＠PRIMARYFOCALPOINTS.NET June 4, 2003

June 4, 2003

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Those annoying garments and bag advertisements...
by TheStar June 3, 2003

June 3, 2003

Why doesn't someone just ban/unsubsribe the person? Having this email once or twice was 'okay'... But it appears to be comming on a regular basis...

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manufacturer of garments and bags in China
by Rachel June 3, 2003

June 3, 2003

Dear Sir or Madam, I have the pleasure to know your esteemed Corp. We are a manufacturer of garments and bags in Quanzhou, China. I think we can cooperate and supply you with garments and bags as you need. The following is some introductions about our company. Set up: 1988 Type: manufacturer & exporter Product: knitted garments and bags Employees: 1300 persons ( garments factory: 500 bags factory: 800) Product data: product (main items) capacity(/year) brief 2,000,000dzs baby body 1,800,000dzs boxer short 200,000dzs pajama 50,000dzs soft bag 1,500,000pcs hard bag 500,000pcs Mimn order: 300dzs for garments 500pcs for bags Payment: irrevocable L/C at sight Our garment factory mainly specialize in Lady's and men's underwear, children's wear, baby's wear, pajama, boxer shorts, T-shirt, etc. The materials we often use are cotton, T/C, Polyester, Polyamide, Elasthan, and Polyamide. Our products are design with PAD system, produced with advanced equipment, processed in highly quality control system with seasoned workmanship and high efficiency. Our main market is Europe, Australia, Japan. We also accept the orders designed and required by costumers. Our bag factory was founded in 1988, too. We produce all kinds of bags, including suitcase, backpack, travel bag, shoulder bag, sport bag, trolley, camera bag, tote bag, school bag, computer case, luggage,waist bag, notecase, etc. And the goods have met a great favor in the Europe countries, Australia and America because of their good quality, beautiful design and competitive price. Thank you very much. Hope you will give us an opportunity to do business together and we will try our level best to fulfill your present requirement. Should you therefore need any more details for your clarification, pls do not hesitate to contact us. And you are welcome to visit our factories. With best regards Rachel Wang Mob:0086-13960286700 Jason Chen Mob:0086-13959893400 Vicki Wang Mob:0086-13960228599 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SENWER GARMENTS CO., LTD. ADD: Room F202, Fugui Renjia Building, Liuguan Road, Quanzhou, Fujian, China. Tel: 0086-595-2506700 Fax: 0086-595-2563400 P.C.:362000 E-mail: rachel(a)public.qz.fj.cn -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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chinese fonts support!!
by ronnie June 3, 2003

June 3, 2003

hello everybody! I use dillo browse a chinese web and all of the fonts cannot display ,can you tell me how can I make dillo support chinese fonts? thanks regard!! ********************************************* Sincerely Yours Wang Xingqiang Embedded Software Division. Neusoft Middleware Technologies Company Neusoft Park, Hun Nan Industrial Area, New & High-Tech Development Zone, Shenyang 110179, PRC TEL:+86-24-83665518 E-mail:wang_xq@neusoft.com Http://www.neusoft.com

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animated GIF's
by kdemirev＠yahoo.com June 2, 2003

June 2, 2003

Hi to all Dillo developers, Thank's to Jorge to point me out the right way to communicate with Dillo developers. I have an embedded system based on Geode( another x86 embedded implementation) and trying to run Dillo on it. Everything's fine till the moment I want to show an animated GIF. I did include few changes into the "gif.c" to handle animated GIF's as frame timeout and iteration counter. Because of lack of time and knowledge of gtk+ I do not know how to show consecutive frames( I start to read gtk+,gdk FAQ, Tutorials and so on 2 weeks ago). Of cource animated GIF must be run with fork or as pthread in Dillo but for now I am interested to find out how I could show different frames. After I got frame data from the cache gif.c is returning to cache server and then I am missing the part what signal or event in Dillo is triggering displaying of frame. I'll be very thankful, if you give me a clue how to do that, Thank you again. Kosta Demirev I do include Jorge answer to my first email. Thank you Jorge. Kosta, > Hi Jorge, Hi! > I apologize to send you an email( you probably very > busy). Thanks. Please use the mailing list for consecutive emails, that way other developers could also respond and help. > I try to do an animated GIF in dillo and I could not > make it. I couldn't draw the consecutive frames and to > show them with gtk+ functions( I'm not familiar with > gtk+). Go to our [links] section and download the GTK+ docs. That will help a lot. > I will appreciate if you give me a clue or tell me is > that implemented in some dillo version( I'm using > 0.7.1). OK. Don't use 0.7.1, get 0.7.2. No, we haven't implemented animated GIFS. I think gtk's timeout functions are a good choice for triggering the frame display change. I'd start there. Note that some of us are *very* happy without animated gifs, so a dillorc option to disable animation is a must! Cheers Jorge.- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Dillo and Zaurus
by dontodd＠columbus.rr.com May 30, 2003

May 30, 2003

I just got a Zaurus SL-5500 and was wondering if anyone has built Dillo for that. I'm running Open Zaurus 3.2. Where would I begin? Sorry for such a newb question! Todd

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Re: animated GIF in dillo
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 30, 2003

May 30, 2003

Kosta, > Hi Jorge, Hi! > I apologize to send you an email( you probably very > busy). Thanks. Please use the mailing list for consecutive emails, that way other developers could also respond and help. > I try to do an animated GIF in dillo and I could not > make it. I couldn't draw the consecutive frames and to > show them with gtk+ functions( I'm not familiar with > gtk+). Go to our [links] section and download the GTK+ docs. That will help a lot. > I will appreciate if you give me a clue or tell me is > that implemented in some dillo version( I'm using > 0.7.1). OK. Don't use 0.7.1, get 0.7.2. No, we haven't implemented animated GIFS. I think gtk's timeout functions are a good choice for triggering the frame display change. I'd start there. Note that some of us are *very* happy without animated gifs, so a dillorc option to disable animation is a must! Cheers Jorge.-

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Dillo & Sylpheed-Claws: finally!
by Melvin Hadasht May 30, 2003

May 30, 2003

Hi, I want just to announce that Sylpheed-Claws (email client), as of the released version 0.9.0claws, officially supports Dillo as its embedded HTML mail viewer, in the form of a loadable plugin. I would like to thank Jorge for integrating and improving the necessary patches. I would also like to thank him and all other contributors to Dillo for their work and for providing such a fast/small/useable/useful browser. Keep on the good work! Best regards. -- Melvin Hadasht

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Re: Dillo
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 30, 2003

May 30, 2003

Stefan, > Hi! Hi. > First of all: Thanks! Thanks for giving me Dillo! You're welcome. > I've got two questions: > > 1. In the dpi text a hello_world plugin is mentioned. Where can I find it? Hold on a bit, we're working with Ferdi on a new plugin manager that will ease a lot the making of new plugins. (if you can't hold your breath, drop me a note and I'll send it to you). > 2. I'd like to see some things in future releases. Where can I post suggestions? You said 'dont brainstorm to the mailing list'. First, think a lot of suggestions before posting them. That's the idea. We have little manpower and a lot to do, so we focus on the most important issues only. > What I'd like to see: Incremental full text search like in the latest Mozilla version. Just typing in the main window starts a search over the whole displayed Page. Prefix letters (configurable!) restrict search, e.g. > > '/' -> search only within link text > '\' -> search only within link target > ':' -> search only within plain text > '#' -> search only within current frame > '*' -> use regexp search (okay, this one's really advanced) > > ESC -> stops old search, starts new > TAB -> jump to next match > > So, '#\foo.com<TAB>' would find the second occurence of a link in the current frame which is coded as <a herf='www.foo.com/list.html'>link</a> I wouldn't go for something so specific at this time, but if you like, you can start studying the Knuth-Morris-Pratt algorithm in findtext.c, and evaluate from there. Cheers Jorge.-

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XFT Patch
by Nicola Girardi May 30, 2003

May 30, 2003

I updated my patch (which was derived from another patch I don't remember from who) for current CVS, and added an autoconf check to add the necessary compiler and linker flags automatically. I hope it's useful for someone, and I hope that it actually creeps in. Such a small effort for such a nice feature. :-) Attached (it's small)!

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<form> parsing
by Russell Nelson May 26, 2003

May 26, 2003

If you visit http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?zip=13676&dist=100&submit1…, you'll find that the download form is missing. Under [details] there should be a checkbox and the label "download". There should be a submit image before the line that says "Travel Bug". This is present in 0.7.2. Interestingly, if I save the HTML from inside Galeon, and load it in Dillo, the form is present. -- --My blog is at angry-economist.russnelson.com | "I have officially heard Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | every excuse for being 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | assigned a single room at Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | FGC." --Liz Perch

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Broken links on eBay
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 23, 2003

May 23, 2003

Hi there, For those that have noted this problem, I wrote an explanation at: http://dillo.auriga.wearlab.de/Notes.html If someone can contact the webmaster and get it fixed, I'd be surprised! :-) Cheers Jorge.-

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replies from a dillo user (fwd)
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 23, 2003

May 23, 2003

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 22:32:00 +0100 From: Marius Kempe <tanadan(a)tanadan.uklinux.net> To: jcid(a)softhome.net Subject: replies from a dillo user Hello! I would just like to say that I have been using dillo for the past 6 months? or so and I really like it. I would even consider contributing to the project if I had any money, but keep up the good work! :-) I guess there's not much point in this letter, just saying 'thank you'. -- Tanadan Which would win in a fight, a monkey, a robot, a pirate, or a ninja?

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Strange post data from <input type=image...
by Andreas Kemnade May 23, 2003

May 23, 2003

<input type="image" name="CONFIRM" src="ecoupon-abschicken.gif" border="0" height="13"> This line produces for example(when you have clicked on that button): CONFIRM=&CONFIRM.x=7&CONFIRM.y=9 With netscape4.7 and mozilla, only CONFIRM.x=7&CONFIRM.y=9 is sent. I have found one form which seems not to work with dillo but with netscape. Unfortunately, that is a form for a transferal from a bank and it works fine with the demo account, so that is really hard to test. Does anyone know if that is a bug in dillo and/or how to fix that? Greetings Andreas Kemnade

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manufacturer of garments and bags in China
by Rachel May 21, 2003

May 21, 2003

Dear Sir or Madam, I have the pleasure to know your esteemed corp. We are a manufacturer & exporter of garments and bags in Quanzhou, China. I think we can cooperate and supply you with garments as you need. The following is some introductions about our company. Set up: 1988 Type: manufacturer & exporter Product: knitted garments and bags Employees: 1300 persons ( garments factory: 500 bags factory: 800) Product data: product (main items) capacity(/year) brief 2,000,000dzs baby body 1,800,000dzs boxer short 200,000dzs pajama 50,000dzs soft bag 1,500,000pcs hard bag 500,000pcs Mimn order: 300dzs for garments Payment: irrevocable L/C at sight Bank: BANK OF CHINA Our garment factory mainly specialize in Lady's and men's underwear, children's wear, baby's wear, pajama, boxer shorts, T-shirt, etc. The materials we often use are cotton, T/C, Polyester, Polyamide, Elasthan, and Polyamide. Our products are design with PAD system, produced with advanced equipment, processed in highly quality control system with seasoned workmanship and high efficiency. Our main market is Europe, Australia, Japan and America. We also accept the orders designed and required by costumers. You can see some pictures of our samples through our web http://www.senwer.com. (For more pictures in your interesting, pls kindly contact us directly). Our bag factory was founded in 1988, too. We produce all kinds of bags, including suitcase, backpack, travel bag, shoulder bag, sport bag, trolley, camera bag, tote bag, school bag, computer case, luggage,waist bag, notecase, etc. And the goods have met a great favor in the Europe countries, Australia and America because of their good quality, beautiful design and competitive price. Thank you very much. Hope you will give us an opportunity to do business together and we will try our level best to fulfill your present requirement. Should you therefore need any more details for your clarification, pls do not hesitate to contact us. And you are welcome to visit our factories. With best regards Rachel Wang Mob:0086-13960286700 E-mail:rachel@senwer.com Jason Chen Mob:0086-13959893400 E-mail: jasonchen(a)senwer.com Vicki Wang Mob:0086-13960228599 E-mail: vicki(a)senwer.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SENWER GARMENTS CO., LTD. ADD: Room F202, Fugui Renjia Building, Liuguan Road, Quanzhou, Fujian, China. Tel: 0086-595-2506700 Fax: 0086-595-2563400 P.C.:362000 Http://www.senwer.com E-mail: senwer(a)public.qz.fj.cn -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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cut & paste in 0.7.2
by Albert Wagner May 20, 2003

May 20, 2003

I just upgraded 0.7.0 to 0.7.2 on my LFS-4.0 system. It compiled and installed without errors, and seems to run just as 0.7.0 did. However, althougth I can select text, I cannot find a menu to cut or paste the selected text. How is this done?

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dillo-0.7.2 on SGI IRIX 6.5.5f (BUG#455)
by Jorge Arellano Cid May 20, 2003

May 20, 2003

Hi, To BUG#455's poster, using SGI IRIX 6.5.5f: Please let us know the canonical name detected by configure. It'd be easy to fix both glitches then. Cheers Jorge.-

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Logging in on certain sites
by Peter Milne May 19, 2003

May 19, 2003

Hi all, Hope this is the correct place for this. Certainly enjoy using Dillo, can't wait for later versions to come out. Am I missing something or will this not work in Dillo. If I want to post at http://bsdforums.org I first sign in, then I go to post but I am told I am not signed in. This is also the case with trying to log into http://my.yahoo.com Just wondering if I am overlooking something or if this is not capable with Dillo. Thanks!! -- Pete http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

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manufacturer of garments and bags in China
by Rachel May 19, 2003

May 19, 2003

Dear Sir, I have the pleasure to know your esteemed corp. We are a manufacturer & exporter of garments and bags in Quanzhou, China. I think we can cooperate and supply you with garments as you need. The following is some introductions about our company. Set up: 1988 Type: manufacturer & exporter Product: knitted garments and bags Employees: 1300 persons ( garments factory: 500 bags factory: 800) Product data: product (main items) capacity(/year) brief 2,000,000dzs baby body 1,800,000dzs boxer short 200,000dzs pajama 50,000dzs soft bag 1,500,000pcs hard bag 500,000pcs Mimn order: 300dzs for garments Payment: irrevocable L/C at sight Bank: BANK OF CHINA Our garment factory mainly specialize in Lady's and men's underwear, children's wear, baby's wear, pajama, boxer shorts, T-shirt, etc. The materials we often use are cotton, T/C, Polyester, Polyamide, Elasthan, and Polyamide. Our products are design with PAD system, produced with advanced equipment, processed in highly quality control system with seasoned workmanship and high efficiency. Our main market is Europe, Australia, Japan and America. We also accept the orders designed and required by costumers. You can see some pictures of our samples through our web http://www.senwer.com. (For more pictures in your interesting, pls kindly contact us directly). Our bag factory was founded in 1988, too. We produce all kinds of bags, including suitcase, backpack, travel bag, shoulder bag, sport bag, trolley, camera bag, tote bag, school bag, computer case, luggage,waist bag, notecase, etc. And the goods have met a great favor in the Europe countries, Australia and America because of their good quality, beautiful design and competitive price. Thank you very much. Hope you will give us an opportunity to do business together and we will try our level best to fulfill your present requirement. Should you therefore need any more details for your clarification, pls do not hesitate to contact us. And you are welcome to visit our factories. With best regards Rachel Wang Mob:0086-13960286700 E-mail:rachel@senwer.com Jason Chen Mob:0086-13959893400 E-mail: jasonchen(a)senwer.com Vicki Wang Mob:0086-13960228599 E-mail: vicki(a)senwer.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SENWER GARMENTS CO., LTD. ADD: Room F202, Fugui Renjia Building, Liuguan Road, Quanzhou, Fujian, China. Tel: 0086-595-2506700 Fax: 0086-595-2563400 P.C.:362000 Http://www.senwer.com E-mail: senwer(a)public.qz.fj.cn -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Selection bug
by Sebastian Geerken May 15, 2003

May 15, 2003

Hi! Those who have reported crashes in selection, please checkout the latest CVS and test again. In some cases, a_Selection_button_press does not set the limits (selection->from and selection->to), but then leaves the selection state as NONE. So there must be an extra check, a_Selection_button_release and a_Selection_button_motion should only react at selection state SELECTION. Sebastian

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