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[Dillo-dev]sourceforge
by Brian Craft April 6, 2004

April 6, 2004

Anyone know why dillo renders the sidebars on sourceforge above the content, rather than beside it? I also note that the download links don't work with dillo, though I can cut and paste them into wget w/o problem. b.c.

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[Dillo-dev]what does a_Cache_ccc() actually do?
by Lei Jin April 3, 2004

April 3, 2004

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[Dillo-dev]The binary size is 3MB?
by Lei Jin April 2, 2004

April 2, 2004

It is said that the dillo binary is only 350KB on the website, but I compile the source and get the binary,which is more than 3MB. Why? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 完全免费的雅虎电邮，马上注册获赠额外60兆网络存储空间

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[Dillo-dev]Is there any detailed analysis of the source code of the dillo?
by Lei Jin April 1, 2004

April 1, 2004

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[Dillo-dev]Re: https hungs dillo up...
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

Hi Madis, > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > > > Hi Madis, > > > > Did you receive my 21 March answer to this email? > > > > I'm eager to know how the SSL stuff is going there! ;-) > > yes, i just was busy few days with other things. today/tomorrow i can > look at this stuff again. Sorry to ask again, I just want to get sure you got started with the dpi patch I sent you for https. If you encounter any problem, please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]Re: Lots of patches
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 31, 2004

March 31, 2004

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Jorgen Viksell wrote: > Hi Jorge! Hi! > Here's a bunch of small patches that have been collecting dust on my > hard drive. The only serious bug seems to be the first one in the list, > the second might be a crasher too although I'm not sure. Anyway, > consider yourself patch-bombed! :-) > > patch-realloc: > Switch an occurance of realloc() in dpi.c to g_realloc() to prevent > possible crash when using g_free() below. > > patch-gpointer2int: > Use GPOINTER_TO_INT and GINT_TO_POINTER where appropriate. > > patch-strbuf: > Instead of reversing the list; add strings from the tail to the front of > the resulting string. > > patch-selection: > Remove a copy/paste error. > > patch-gcc-warning: > Silent a gcc warning! (dereferencing type-punned pointer...) > > patch-static: > Add static to a couple of functions. > > patch-unused: > Remove PendingHosts since it seems to be unused. Or is it supposed to do > some thing with the list in the future? > > patch-html_get_attr: > Add a convenience function, Html_get_attr_str(), that copies the > resulting value and supplies an alternate value if NULL. > > patch-null-checks: > Remove unnecessary NULL-checks and NULL initializations. OK, reviewed and applied! I fixed just some minor details, except for patch-gpointer2int; although it was correct, I prefered to avoid the verbosity of GPOINTER_TO_INT and GINT_TO_POINTER casts, by also removing the need for casting back and forth from the roots! Now it looks and feels a bit cleaner, and after two days of testing it went to the CVS. Now you now guys, the CVS has plenty of cleanups, so giving it some extra testing is required. Cheers Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]CSS update
by Sebastian Geerken March 27, 2004

March 27, 2004

Hi! Some news on CSS: 1. There is a new pre-release, at <http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.0-css-3.tar.gz>. Not many changes, but it has been a long time since the next pre-releasse. 2. The CSS page at <http://www.dillo.org/CSS.html> has been updated. Sebastian

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[Dillo-dev]dillo on gtk2?
by Globe Trotter March 26, 2004

March 26, 2004

does dillo exist on gtk2? thanks and best wishes! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Re: [Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian
by TBLittlefoot March 25, 2004

March 25, 2004

> From pelzlpj(a)eecs.umich.edu Wed Mar 24 18:10:05 2004 > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 03:33:58PM -0800, TBLittlefoot wrote: > > I'm one of these weirdos that doesn't like to fondle plastic rodents :-) > > and wonder how difficult it would be to have an option that would number > > all the links on a page and allow one to enter that number instead of > > clicking on the link. I use w3m a lot for my-1st stage surfing, and > > it allows me to Tab down to a link and then hit Return, but that's pretty > > clumsy. > > There is an unofficial patch that: > > 1) lets you jump between links using arrow keys (or whatever keys you > specify) > > 2) includes an incremental search, like Mozilla's "type ahead find" > which is also convenient for selecting links via keyboard > > Let me know if you're interested, and I can point you in the right > direction. > You bet I'm interested...Any step in the right direction. What I was envisioning is having like ^N as a toggle that would put a number in a little box, black on white, before each link, or turn them off. If it was on, then any number entered would be interpreted as a command to go that URL. Seems like the code could be pretty easy, just numbering every link on the page rather than worrying about limiting this to the screenful that's up. Simple incrementation, right? (I'm fairly handy with sh-compatible shell scripting.) > Paul > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------- > Paul J. Pelzl Office Hours: > EECS 215 GSI Tu: 3:00-4:00, 2420 EECS > Mailbox: 3411 EECS Th: 5:30-6:30, 2336 EECS > <pelzlpj(a)eecs.umich.edu> > --------------------------------------------------- > Okay, I'll byte: What's all that mean? Emplyee number, local mailbox, and permission to be in that office at that time identifer (or ids for machines in two different offices) ????? Tom

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[Dillo-dev]Downloads File
by vinod＠etri.re.kr March 25, 2004

March 25, 2004

Hi all I am pretty new to Dillo and would like to work on the downloads file. [dpi] Please could anyone guide me on the present structure and what enhancement or modifications to be made ? The overview of the current structure : 3 Structures - DownloadFile, DownloadStatus and DownloadWindow Api's to start and free new download, update status, list and create log, get download size and time, add download to list and start and close download. Also, api's for read socket and print list are provided. Can anyone tell me how to enhance this structure better ? Warm regards Vinod

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Re: [Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian
by TBLittlefoot March 24, 2004

March 24, 2004

Oops! I hit send accidentally... Sure appreciate the help from you guys. And your fine and nicely maturing browser. Tom

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Re: [Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian
by TBLittlefoot March 24, 2004

March 24, 2004

Thanks to the guidance of Paul, Kelson, and Madis, I know have Dillo 0.8.0 installed and configured and it looks VERY sharp and several things have obviously been corrected, such as being able to just hit Space to move down a screenful and without having to use the mouse at all. If I encounter any difficulties I will submit a bug report. I was really serious about this: I'm one of these weirdos that doesn't like to fondle plastic rodents :-) and wonder how difficult it would be to have an option that would number all the links on a page and allow one to enter that number instead of clicking on the link. I use w3m a lot for my-1st stage surfing, and it allows me to Tab down to a link and then hit Return, but that's pretty clumsy. (When I encounter a site needing a closer look, I bring up Dillo, although this would be easier, come to think of it, if I just used Dillo and disabled image downloading at first. That IS possible??)

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Re: [Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian
by TBLittlefoot March 24, 2004

March 24, 2004

> From pelzlpj(a)eecs.umich.edu Wed Mar 24 12:30:13 2004 > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:13:08AM -0800, TBLittlefoot wrote: > > Thanks much. Having a rough time here. I've only used apt-get with the CDs > > (which are the only entries in my /etc/apt/sources.list) > > I get the feeling that your Debian CDs do not contain all the packages > you need. So you need some way to get the additional packages, and > downloading them one-by-one could be annoying. > > If you're using Debian stable (woody), then I suggest you add some > Debian mirrors to /etc/apt/sources.list. These lines should work: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free > deb http://security.debian.org/ woody/updates main contrib non-free > > If you leave the cdrom-related lines in sources.list, Apt will choose > files from the CD when possible, or grab them from the ftp mirrors > otherwise. > > You need to run "apt-get update" after adding these lines, in order to > update the list of packages from the mirrors. Then you can hopefully > run the "apt-get install <whatever>" commands that you have been trying. > > Paul > > That was very cool, Paul. I took the safe route and just mved my current sources.list to sources.list~ and then created a new one with the above entries and followed your directions (while connected to the internet). But, I jumped into attempting to compile 0.8.0 after reading Kelson's reply and just installing the glib-dev files then got these warnings from config: configure: WARNING: *** No libz found. Disabling PNG images *** configure: WARNING: *** No libjpeg found. Disabling jpeg images.*** So I guess I better delete the sources dir and start over again... Thanks a lot. I appreciate your patience here. I'm one of these weirdos that doesn't like to fondle plastic rodents :-) and wonder how difficult it would be to have an option that would number all the links on a page and allow one to enter that number instead of clicking on the link. I use w3m a lot for my-1st stage surfing, and it allows me to Tab down to a link and then hit Return, but that's pretty clumsy. (When I encounter a site needing a closer look, I bring up Dillo, although this would be easier, come to think of it, if I just used Dillo and disabled image downloading at first. That IS possible??) Later, Tom

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Re: [Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian
by TBLittlefoot March 24, 2004

March 24, 2004

Kelson and Madis, Thanks much. Having a rough time here. I've only used apt-get with the CDs (which are the only entries in my /etc/apt/sources.list) Everything went fine except.... apt-get install libpng2-dev Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libpng2-dev: Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages So then I did: apt-get install zlib1g-dev Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3-18) but 1:1.1.4-1 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages So apparently I need zlib1g-dev_1.1.4-1.0woody0_i386.deb which matches my version of zlib1g and found it at ftp.debian.org but don't know where to go from here. Currently trying to make sense of the apt man pages :-) Tom

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[Dillo-dev]Compiling 0.8.0 Debian
by TBLittlefoot March 24, 2004

March 24, 2004

Greetings Dillo People, I ran into a problem compiling Dillo from the latest tarball, and didn't want totarget anyone specifically, so I hope you don't mind me posting this here.... Been over and over the INSTALL file. I'm running 0.6.2-1, installed from the CDs with apt-get: (Debian 3.0 with kernel 2.4.19) Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-2), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-2), libjpeg62, libpng2 (>= 1.0.12), x xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3)libs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3) Here's what happens when I run ./config for 0.8.0 ---------> #./configure checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... mawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... gcc checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for ranlib... ranlib checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for setsockopt... yes checking for glib-config... no checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found *** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to glib-config. configure: error: Unable to find glib with a version >= 1.2.0. Dillo NEEDS glib endquote There's no glib/GLIB in any /bin on my box, and no file called glib-config. Would that be a file that would only exist if I had compiled libglib myself? The latest .deb is nowhere near what's available in the tarball and I want the latest. Nice browser, even as is. I dumped Skipstone for it. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Tom

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[Dillo-dev]src/IO/Makefile.in missing
by Peter Wiehe March 23, 2004

March 23, 2004

I tried to "./configure" dillo 0.8.0, but got this error: ... configure: creating ./config.status ... config.status: creating src/IO/Makefile config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/IO/Makefile.in Did this happen to other users (Dillo's fault)? Or is my Linux system messed up/my build tools have wrong versions (my fault)? If I would understand this autoconf stuff, I would know the answer and wouldn't bother You with this question. And if it's my system's fault, I don't expect You to help me out, of course. But maybe it's a Dillo bug? Kind regards Peter Wiehe

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[Dillo-dev]Mozilla (was src/IO/Makefile.in missing)
by Peter Wiehe March 23, 2004

March 23, 2004

(I've taking the liberty to answer this private mail on the list. If that is against Your will, jump up and down and shout, and I will apologize.) > All of the above & I am not a programmer <grin>.. Thanks for the help especially as You aren't a programmer. IAAPBIHNCAAE I am a programmer but I have no clue about autoconf either :) I don't mean running ./configure but I mean writing/modifiying/understanding 'Makefile.in', 'depcomp', whatever. BTW I'm currently downloading Mozilla sources. Mozilla has definitively its good aspects. But the download says at the very start: 5.5 KB/sec :-) Time left 1 hour 15 minutes :-( 31380 KB :-o Anyone still believing Dillo is obsolete? ;-) Interesting to know that Internet Explorer and Mozilla use the same code base as ancestor! Did You know that? And I've taken a look at Zen another browser, circa the same size as Dillo. But Zen is unmaintained, C++ and most importantly, Dillo sources seem more nicely structured than Zen (from aesthetical and technical view). Kind regards Peter Wiehe

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Re: [Dillo-dev]src/IO/Makefile.in missing
by Peter Wiehe March 22, 2004

March 22, 2004

On Monday 22 March 2004 00:39, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Peter Wiehe <peter_wiehe2004(a)yahoo.de> [03-21-04 18:34]: > > I tried to "./configure" dillo 0.8.0, but got this error: > > did you run 'autoconf' first ?? > I didn't. Docu gives the impression someone should and need not do this. I did it now. Have to update autoconf to 2.54+. If I have done so, the chances are good, that autoconf fixes my problem? > note: IANAP... I am not a person? Intel architecture notoriously abandons productivity? I ate Nachos and Pizza?

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[Dillo-dev]Re.: /src/IO/Makefile.in missing/Dillo obsolete?
by Achim Woellgens March 22, 2004

March 22, 2004

Hi folks, well seems to be first kind of THAT kind of problems ; my compiling went very well, no probs even to more "exotic" installation pathes than usual ;-) so no Makefile missing..... and secondly Dillo is not obsolete because I still appreciate a small and FAST browser for surfing pages not overloaded with (java-) scripts or pictures till doomsday comes... so keep goin please, this thing is damn good so far... just waiting, what othere features will be included in he future, will be online banking possible one day? bye Achim dillo-dev-request(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de wrote: >Send Dillo-dev mailing list submissions to > dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dillo-dev-request(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > >You can reach the person managing the list at > dillo-dev-admin(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. src/IO/Makefile.in missing (Peter Wiehe) > 2. Re: src/IO/Makefile.in missing (Peter Wiehe) > 3. Re: src/IO/Makefile.in missing (Jorge Arellano Cid) > 4. Mozilla (was src/IO/Makefile.in missing) (Peter Wiehe) > 5. Re: src/IO/Makefile.in missing (Peter Wiehe) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: Peter Wiehe <peter_wiehe2004(a)yahoo.de> >To: dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:26:13 +0100 >Subject: [Dillo-dev]src/IO/Makefile.in missing > >I tried to "./configure" dillo 0.8.0, but got this error: > >=2E.. >configure: creating ./config.status >=2E.. >config.status: creating src/IO/Makefile >config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/IO/Makefile.in > >Did this happen to other users (Dillo's fault)? Or is my Linux system mes= >sed=20 >up/my build tools have wrong versions (my fault)? >If I would understand this autoconf stuff, I would know the answer and=20 >wouldn't bother You with this question. And if it's my system's fault, I=20 >don't expect You to help me out, of course. But maybe it's a Dillo bug? > >Kind regards >Peter Wiehe > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: Peter Wiehe <peter_wiehe2004(a)yahoo.de> >To: Patrick Shanahan <pat(a)wahoo.no-ip.org>, > dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de >Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev]src/IO/Makefile.in missing >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:47:27 +0100 > >On Monday 22 March 2004 00:39, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > >>* Peter Wiehe <peter_wiehe2004(a)yahoo.de> [03-21-04 18:34]: >> >> >>>I tried to "./configure" dillo 0.8.0, but got this error: >>> >>> >>did you run 'autoconf' first ?? >> >> >> >I didn't. Docu gives the impression someone should and need not do this. >I did it now. Have to update autoconf to 2.54+. If I have done so, the=20 >chances are good, that autoconf fixes my problem? > > > >>note: IANAP... >> >> >I am not a person? Intel architecture notoriously abandons productivity? >I ate Nachos and Pizza? > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:56:54 -0400 (CLT) >From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> >To: Dillo mailing list <dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de> >Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev]src/IO/Makefile.in missing > > > >On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Peter Wiehe wrote: > > > >>I tried to "./configure" dillo 0.8.0, but got this error: >> >>... >>configure: creating ./config.status >>... >>config.status: creating src/IO/Makefile >>config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/IO/Makefile.in >> >>Did this happen to other users (Dillo's fault)? Or is my Linux system messed >>up/my build tools have wrong versions (my fault)? >> >> > > The file is in the tarball: > >-rw-r--r-- 1000/100 12293 2004-02-08 09:57:37 dillo-0.8.0/src/IO/Makefile.in > > but not in your HD... > > > >>If I would understand this autoconf stuff, I would know the answer and >>wouldn't bother You with this question. And if it's my system's fault, I >>don't expect You to help me out, of course. But maybe it's a Dillo bug? >> >> > > You're the first person to complain! > > If you took 0.8.0 from CVS, just run ./autogen.sh before ./configure > > Cheers > Jorge.- > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: Peter Wiehe <peter_wiehe2004(a)yahoo.de> >To: Patrick Shanahan <pat(a)wahoo.no-ip.org>, > Dillo mailing list <dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de> >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 04:47:54 +0100 >Subject: [Dillo-dev]Mozilla (was src/IO/Makefile.in missing) > >(I've taking the liberty to answer this private mail on the list. If that= > is=20 >against Your will, jump up and down and shout, and I will apologize.) > > > >>All of the above & I am not a programmer <grin>.. >> >> >Thanks for the help especially as You aren't a programmer. > >IAAPBIHNCAAE >I am a programmer but I have no clue about autoconf either :) >I don't mean running ./configure but I mean writing/modifiying/understand= >ing=20 >'Makefile.in', 'depcomp', whatever. > >BTW I'm currently downloading Mozilla sources. Mozilla has definitively i= >ts=20 >good aspects. But the download says at the very start: >5.5 KB/sec :-) >Time left 1 hour 15 minutes :-( >31380 KB :-o >Anyone still believing Dillo is obsolete? ;-) > >Interesting to know that Internet Explorer and Mozilla use the same code=20 >base as ancestor! Did You know that? > >And I've taken a look at Zen another browser, circa the same size as Dill= >o. >But Zen is unmaintained, C++ and most importantly, Dillo sources seem mor= >e=20 >nicely structured than Zen (from aesthetical and technical view). > >Kind regards >Peter Wiehe > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >From: Peter Wiehe <peter_wiehe2004(a)yahoo.de> >To: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org>, > Dillo mailing list <dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de> >Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev]src/IO/Makefile.in missing >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 04:48:52 +0100 > >On Monday 22 March 2004 01:56, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > >> The file is in the tarball: >> >>-rw-r--r-- 1000/100 12293 2004-02-08 09:57:37 >>dillo-0.8.0/src/IO/Makefile.in >> >> but not in your HD... >>[...] >> >> >>>If I would understand this autoconf stuff, I would know the answer an= >>> >>> >d > > >>>wouldn't bother You with this question. And if it's my system's fault= >>> >>> >, > > >>>I don't expect You to help me out, of course. But maybe it's a Dillo >>>bug? >>> >>> >> You're the first person to complain! >> >> >I downloaded, extracted, read install and readme, then run ./configure. >So maybe it's lost at the download. Or maybe some of my software has a bu= >g >(I already have a candidate: Linux FAT-FS). But anyway it's my fault from= >=20 >Dillo's point of view. Because a file being no there which should be alre= >ady=20 >there, that would have lead to many reports. So I download it again.=20 >That should fix it. Thanks. > > > >> If you took 0.8.0 from CVS, just run ./autogen.sh before ./configure >> >> >No, wasn't from CVS. > >Kind regards >Peter Wiehe > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Dillo-dev mailing list >Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de >http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev > > >End of Dillo-dev Digest > > >

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[Dillo-dev]Re: pixmaps.netscape.h
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 15, 2004

March 15, 2004

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Erik Sittmann wrote: > Hello Jorge, Hi. > attached an updated 'pixmaps.netscape.h' for dillo-0.8.0. Oh, thanks. I just noticed the toolbar icons page was complitely out of sync. After some work, now all the icon sets are up-to-date. I didn't update the screenshots, though, but I'll gladly accept if someone volunteers to send me a package with an updated set of images (all with the same GTK+ theme please). Cheers Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]Hello
by Diriel March 13, 2004

March 13, 2004

Hi Everyone, I heard of dillo recently when installing Gentoo linux. I was browsing their software. I am a Big fan of small efficient tools of most any kind. Dillo has definately made a fan of me. For daily usage I generally use FireFox, but when im setting up a box on very limited resources, generally I will set things up as lightweight as possible. A Big Thank You for Dillo. Ok, ill be good and stay on topic here on out /grin. Gary

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[Dillo-dev]Re: dillo / fltk
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 12, 2004

March 12, 2004

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Matt wrote: > > Hi Jorge, Hi Matt! > > I just visited your dillo web pages (by a hint from the FLTK mailing > list) and I have to say, you guys got something great going there! Thanks. It's great you liked it because we could make it even better by porting to FLTK! > > I saw mentioned that you are checking the feasibility of using FLTK > (replacing or adding to gtk?). The idea is to replace GTK+. (In a nutshell, GTK2 got too big and slow to suit our needs). You can find interesting threads in our mailing list about the FLTK port issue. For instance, go to: http://www.dillo.org/search-dillo-dev.html And search for "FLTK" by "jcid" sorted by "Relevance". This will not only bring my posts but also the ones from Michael Sweet that I forwarded to dillo-dev. > FLTK on the other side is lacking a > good browser, or even just a browser interface. So I believe that > dillo/FLTK would be a great combination. Yes. The only thing that scared me a bit about FLTK's help viewer is that it is too slow, even for very simple pages. For instance vertical scrolling is much slower than what we get with GTK1 by now. Considering FLTK's reputation for speed, and after looking at the demo programs (as "scroll"), I feel it should be possible to improve page scrolling speed. > > Anyway, I am one of the FLTK core developers and cross platform porter, > and I would like to offer you my support in connecting FLTK and dillo. Excellent! Do you plan to work as an advisor, a porting core-developer or the port's leader? :) After reading Sebastian's comments, there seems to be no major obstacle to start the porting effort. What we'd need is to coordinate the communication of specific knowledge: Sebastian and Dw, me and network2parser and parser2widgets, you and FLTK. > Pleas let me know what you think, I think it's great to have one of the core developers of FLTK in the porting team! Technically, I see two ways of making the port: (I'll concentrate on the HTML rendering part because the UI port should be pretty easy in comparison). Rendering port alternatives: 1) Port Dw to FLTK 2) Make a pure FLTK widget tree (convert Dw into FLTK analogs) Maybe the first is easier in the short term, but I'd much prefer the second one because: * Having a custom widget system (Dw) that's embedded into FLTK and that also embedds native FLTK widgets is a very complex scenery that requires too much knowledge to work with (BTW that's what we currently have with Dw/GTK+). * If we can push the positioning/resizing/rendering complexity into FLTK's internal mechanism, it would simplify a lot the task (less complex algorithms, less code, less intertoolkit sync) * If we end we a pure FLTK tree (with its parser), it could be easily reused by the FLTK community, and this also leads to easier maintenance because more developers would be deploying it and helping to improve and fix bugs. One of the main points of Dillo's speed is streamed rendering. That is the ability to show the page as it is being constucted. I assume this is possible with FLTK. The way this works is by letting the parser to build the widget tree as it gets the HTML building blocks. By far, the most complex part is table rendering (because you don't know the table size in advance (i.e. each cell size). This means that cells start to resize and affect their rows and hence the table itself. OTOH, I have hopes in FLTK's internal mechanism. Fl_Group manual says: "It is possible to achieve any type of resize behavior by using an invisible Fl_Box as the resizable and/or by using a hierarchy of child Fl_Group's." and Michael S. wrote: <q> The current FLTK layout mechanism is infinitely flexible, but takes a little getting used to since there are no layout "hints", just resizeable widgets inside groups. In short, you group widgets (and sometimes create empty "box" widgets) to get the layout behavior you want. This is actually a lot faster than the older Motif-style layout stuff that GTK+ uses... There are specialized group widgets (Fl_Pack, Fl_Tile, etc.) that provide for special positioning/resizing capabilities separate from the user resizing the window. </q> So, the way I'd start is by trying to make a FLTK widget (set) that's able to draw generic HTML tables whose content is initially limited to be text only. This means, having HTML test files, a simple parser and the widget tree construction logic. When this is ready, images are added (images are a very good example of resizing cells). After that, a generic HTML content widget should be defined, and it would be a matter of adding support for the missing HTML elements (a much simpler task). In parallel with this last stage, Dillo's UI could be ported and finally merge both to have the first FLTK prototype of Dillo! Looking forward to hear from you Jorge.- PS: Feel free to forward this to the FLTK mailing list.

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[Dillo-dev]dillo / fltk (fwd)
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

As you can see, my hopes for volunteers were heard! --Jorge ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:30:33 -0800 From: Matt <mm(a)matthiasm.com> To: jcid(a)dillo.org Subject: dillo / fltk Hi Jorge, I just visited your dillo web pages (by a hint from the FLTK mailing list) and I have to say, you guys got something great going there! I saw mentioned that you are checking the feasibility of using FLTK (replacing or adding to gtk?). FLTK on the other side is lacking a good browser, or even just a browser interface. So I believe that dillo/FLTK would be a great combination. Anyway, I am one of the FLTK core developers and cross platform porter, and I would like to offer you my support in connecting FLTK and dillo. Pleas let me know what you think, Matthias

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[Dillo-dev]About proxy authorization && password storing
by Ivan Daniluk March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

Hi, all! I use proxy server, that requires basic authorization. So, I wrote patch for dillo 0.8.0 that enables this feature. It's available on: http://dem2mpg.by.ru/dillo-0.8.0-proxy-auth.patch.gz Main question I would ask is about password storing. This patch just implements new dillorc option - "http_proxyauth", which is the string like "user:password". But, I guess, it's not correspond to dillo security policy, is it? Maybe, we should open popup dialogue and ask user for login/password? Regards! -- Ivan Daniluk, software developer, Ukrainian Computer Labs, Kiev, Ukraine mailto:Ivan.Daniluk@ucl.com.ua

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[Dillo-dev]Re: Porting Dillo to FLTK
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Michael Pearce wrote: > Hello, Hi! > I see under your 'Future Goals' you mention: > > "Port dillo to GTK+2.0 or FLTK" > > I use FLTK for most of my linux gui program, but it is lacking a good HTML > rendering widget. It has a simple one used as a help browser, but it is no > where as advanced as Dillo. Yes, I tested it. The idea is to port our custom widget system (dw) to FLTK. > > I would like to look into porting dillos html parser & renderer to a FLTK > widget. Once this is done a full web-browser would not be difficut to > implement. If you could help us with it, it'd be great. At this point I'm waiting for the opinion of our main dw author and developer (Sebastian). As he knows dw's design by heart, he also knows best what are the harder issues of the port, what is required and what would be easy. He's also the one to tell us beforehand if something is not possible. The initial research on the current (and soon to be available) features of FLTK that we can benefit from is done. We even consulted with some FLTK developers; there's an interesting thread in our mailing list archives. So far it looks very promising. Appart from antialising, UTF-8, more portability, smaller size, postcript output, one of the key benefits we could get is to move rendering complexity into FLTK's layout system. That could simplify a lot the current dw implementation, making it easier to maintain and develop it further. Of course it will require quite an amount of work, but I suppose there will be enough people interested in helping us because it constitutes a quantum leap for the dillo project, and it would also be a big addition to FLTK. > Thankyou for the work that has gone into a clean, compact and useable > browser. Thanks for the recognition. It takes hard work to keep it that way! Cheers Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]Porting Dillo to FLTK (fwd)
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:53:46 +1300 From: Michael Pearce <mike(a)slavelighting.com> To: jcid(a)dillo.org Subject: Porting Dillo to FLTK Hello, I see under your 'Future Goals' you mention: "Port dillo to GTK+2.0 or FLTK" I use FLTK for most of my linux gui program, but it is lacking a good HTML rendering widget. It has a simple one used as a help browser, but it is no where as advanced as Dillo. I would like to look into porting dillos html parser & renderer to a FLTK widget. Once this is done a full web-browser would not be difficut to implement. Thankyou for the work that has gone into a clean, compact and useable browser. Mike. -- SLAVE Lighting Lighting Automation and Design on a budget http://www.slavelighting.com/

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[Dillo-dev]dillo. (fwd)
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 4, 2004

March 4, 2004

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:05:41 -0800 (PST) From: R. Elliott <relliott(a)u.washington.edu> To: jcid(a)dillo.org Subject: dillo. Hi there- I just wanted to say a hearty thanks for dillo. It's my favorite browser and I really appreciate the work- 0.8 is fantastic. keep a smile on your face! richard ========================================= Richard Elliott Graduate Student, Univ. of Washington Physics PAB427 (206)543-3904 =========================================

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[Dillo-dev]about porting dillo to another toolkit
by Eduard Bondarenko March 3, 2004

March 3, 2004

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[Dillo-dev]0.80 crash and info
by Riccardo March 2, 2004

March 2, 2004

Hello, I am on OpenBSD 3.4. I run dillo 0.80 and go to "www.knuddel.org" I get the following (repeatable) error: (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/local/bin/dillo dillo_dns_init: Here we go! Disabling cookies. Nav_open_url: Url=>about:splash< Nav_open_url: Url=>http://www.knuddel.org< Dns_server [0]: www.knuddel.org is 0x738d28 Connecting to 64.95.194.245 Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 4490 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0 typing 'bt' tells me "no stack" and now ? -Ric

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[Dillo-dev]New to the list -- some patches
by Nelson Rodriguez March 2, 2004

March 2, 2004

Hello everybody, I'm new to the list. I decided to subscribe the list to share some changes I've done to Dillo. I don't know much about programming in GTK, but I know C, so I just modified some functions and took as example existing code. Here are the things I've done so far: - Show a option for "Back" and "Forward" in the pop-up page menu (for history navigation) - Open Links in new window when the link has a target _blank or _new (this include form posts too) - Show in the status bar if a link will open in a new window or same window Who do I sent this patches? I would really love if this gets into the development tree, so I don't have to do it every time a new release comes :P (The web page says that if it's a dillo widget to send it to Sebastian, but otherwise to me. Who is me??? ) The changes I did affected html.c, menu.c, url.c and url.h. Is that part of the "widget"? I plan to improve things in dillo, because I really like it. Right now I'm working in a change to make images fit in the screen (like the IE and Mozilla "zoom" features) when displaying just an image. Ok, bye for now. Please remember to let me know who/how do I send th patches. Nelson

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[Dillo-dev]Re: Italian docs
by Jorge Arellano Cid March 1, 2004

March 1, 2004

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Lupino wrote: > Hi Jorge, do you remember me? Yes i do! ;) Even when I can't answer all the email that I get, usually the names keep inside my head (for instance, as for Ivan, to whom I still owe an answer). > I've translated the file you sent me, and the file README, both packed in > doc-it.tar.bz2. Are there other files to translate? That's all for now. I didn't include the README file in the tarball (we could end with lots of translations that way). Maybe it'd be good to link to it from the help page... > > Do you plan to translate dillo itself in languages different from english? I > would like to help you! I'd like, but that's to be done when we start I18n (more in the developer notes). Just check the help page now! Thanks Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]dillo .filter.dpi mini mini howto
by Diego Sáenz March 1, 2004

March 1, 2004

Hello. The DPIP is here, but it seems that developers(external ones) do not make a big use of it. I have made a litle PI to learn how to use DPIs that can help others. This filter dpi uses tidy to see a bad writen page. If i have write this dpi is only because it was more easy to write in shell script than a download dpi with progres indicator, thah was my other option. I agree that tidy is a big thing but in the server side. First of all a filter.dpi is a executable file that reads dillo comands from stdin an ouputs commands and html to stdout. It can be write in any language that can do this. It is possible to do it in shell programing. This file must be in a directory in /usr/local/lib/dillo/ for a local compiled dillo. When you enter a url dpi:/name/otherthings a file /usr/local/lib/dillo/name/name.filter.dpi is executed and a command <dpi cmd='open_url' url='dpi:/name/otherthings'> is send to it. Then the PI can send commands or html page that dillo show. I have try to send more than a page, with and without the reload command, and use another comands but for the moment this do not work for dpi filters. If you add a filter dpi with dpid running do not forget to restart it or reload DPIs using dpidc. To install this PI create a tidy directory in the dillo DPIs directory and copy it named tidy.filter.dpi You can use it to see some bad writen pages with a url like dpi:/tidy/http://page_that_you_can_view_with The PI do not add index.htm automaticaly so put it in the url. I hope that this help somebody to write some better PIs. Diego. ------------------------ #!/bin/sh # characters delimiting the fields for read IFS=" '/" # Read dillo's request read -d'>' tag cmd cmd_value url url_tag1 url_tag2 url_value_e # read put each field in a variable. them looks like: # tag "<dpi" # cmd "cmd=" it can be intersting to test this strings # cmd_value "open_url" for this aplication. Dillo can send "add_bookmark" and # "chat" too.(0.8.0 version) With a case we can respond to every dillo command# url "url=" for this command # url_tag1 "dpi:" for this app ... # url_tag2 "tidy" # url_value_e "http://server.com/path/file.html'" we do not want that final ' # so we delete it url_value=`echo -n "$url_value_e" | tr -d "'"` # get the name of the file name=`basename "$url_value"` # with the follow lines we get the url without the filename without using awk u_tmp1=` echo -n "$url_value" | tr "." "\n" ` u_tmp2=` echo -n "$u_tmp1" | tr "/" "." ` n_tmp=` echo -n "$name" | tr "." "\n" ` b_tmp1=` basename "$u_tmp2" ".$n_tmp" ` b_tmp2=` echo -n "$b_tmp1" | tr "." "/" ` base=` echo -n "$b_tmp2" | tr "\n" "." ` # we change status line with send_status_message PI to Dillo command echo "<dpi cmd='send_status_message' msg='tidy up $url_value. please wait'>" ## we send a wait page with the start_send_page command. We can command dillo## to "reload_request" and "chat" too. (0.8.0 version) #cat <<EOF #<dpi cmd='start_send_page' url='dpi:/tidy/wait.html'> #Content-type: text/html # #<html> # <head> # <title> Wait a moment TYDY up this MESS </title> # </head> # <body> # <h1> # Tidy up this mess ($url_value) <br> # Please wait a moment # </h1> # </body> #</html> # # #EOF # we download the page url_value to /tmp with wget wget --no-parent -nc -nH --cut-dirs=30 -P /tmp/ $url_value # with this the page works in local like from inet. Tidy move base to the# right html place echo "<base href=$base >" >> /tmp/$name # we send the html header # Don't forget the empty line after the Content-type cat <<EOF <dpi cmd='start_send_page' url='$url_value'> Content-type: text/html EOF # and tidy do the rest tidy /tmp/$name # clean up the tmp files rm /tmp/$name ---------------------------------------------

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[Dillo-dev]CSS pre-release 2
by Sebastian Geerken Feb. 29, 2004

Feb. 29, 2004

Hi! A second CSS pre-release is available, at <http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.0-css-2.tar.gz>. It now deals with external stylesheets (thanks to Jörgen), and adds the forgotten HTML entities. Sebastain

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[Dillo-dev]RE: Error png in make of Dillo - Help
by Eduard Bondarenko Feb. 28, 2004

Feb. 28, 2004

dillo-dev-request(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de wrote: >Send Dillo-dev mailing list submissions to > dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dillo-dev-request(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > >You can reach the person managing the list at > dillo-dev-admin(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Dillo-dev digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Error png in make of Dillo - Help (=?iso-8859-1?q?Pablo?=) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:53:23 -0600 (CST) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Pablo?= <pabloruiz(a)yahoo.com> >To: dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de >Subject: [Dillo-dev]Error png in make of Dillo - Help > >I wish use Dillo but I got an error, I apprecite if somebody can help >me. > >make >make all-recursive >make[1]: Cambiando a directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0' >Making all in doc >make[2]: Cambiando a directorio >`/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/doc' >make[2]: No se hace nada para `all'. >make[2]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/doc' >Making all in src >make[2]: Cambiando a directorio >`/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' >Making all in IO >make[3]: Cambiando a directorio >`/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/IO' >make[3]: No se hace nada para `all'. >make[3]: Saliendo directorio >`/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/IO' >make[3]: Cambiando a directorio >`/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' >gcc -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 >-I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 >-D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -Wall -W -Wno-unused-parameter >-Waggregate-return -L/usr/local/lib -o dillo chain.o commands.o >cache.o capi.o dw.o dw_aligned_page.o dw_bullet.o dw_button.o >dw_container.o dw_embed_gtk.o dw_ext_iterator.o dw_gtk_scrolled_frame.o >dw_gtk_scrolled_window.o dw_gtk_statuslabel.o dw_gtk_viewport.o >dw_hruler.o dw_image.o dw_list_item.o dw_marshal.o dw_page.o dw_style.o >dw_table.o dw_table_cell.o dw_tooltip.o dw_widget.o findtext.o >selection.o web.o progressbar.o dillo.o bookmark.o dicache.o dns.o >gif.o jpeg.o png.o html.o image.o misc.o interface.o history.o nav.o >plain.o menu.o prefs.o colors.o bitvec.o klist.o strbuf.o url.o >cookies.o IO/libDio.a -ljpeg -L/usr/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib -L/usr/lib >-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi >-lXext -lX11 -lm -lz -lpthread >png.o: En la funciуn `Png_error_handling': >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:116: referencia a >`png_get_error_ptr' sin definir >png.o: En la funciуn `Png_datainfo_callback': >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:136: referencia a >`png_get_progressive_ptr' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:139: referencia a >`png_get_IHDR' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:153: referencia a >`png_get_valid' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:167: referencia a >`png_get_gAMA' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:182: referencia a >`png_read_update_info' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:184: referencia a >`png_get_IHDR' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:187: referencia a >`png_get_rowbytes' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:188: referencia a >`png_get_channels' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:178: referencia a >`png_set_interlace_handling' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:173: referencia a >`png_set_gray_to_rgb' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:168: referencia a >`png_set_gamma' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:161: referencia a >`png_set_strip_16' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:157: referencia a >`png_set_expand' sin definir >png.o: En la funciуn `Png_datarow_callback': >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:221: referencia a >`png_get_progressive_ptr' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:223: referencia a >`png_progressive_combine_row' sin definir >png.o: En la funciуn `Png_dataend_callback': >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:282: referencia a >`png_get_progressive_ptr' sin definir >png.o: En la funciуn `Png_callback': >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:381: referencia a >`png_process_data' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:350: referencia a >`png_check_sig' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:356: referencia a >`png_create_read_struct' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:362: referencia a >`png_create_info_struct' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:367: referencia a >`png_set_progressive_read_fn' sin definir >/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:325: referencia a >`png_destroy_read_struct' sin definir >collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >make[3]: *** [dillo] Error 1 >make[3]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' >make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >make[2]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' >make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >make[1]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0' >make: *** [all] Error 2 > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Informaciуn de Estados Unidos y Amйrica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. >Visнtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Dillo-dev mailing list >Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de >http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev > > >End of Dillo-dev Digest > > > > make sure that you have install libpng. also i don't see -lpng in gcc command, you can edit Makefile if you sure you have libpng installed

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[Dillo-dev]Error png in make of Dillo - Help
by Pablo Feb. 28, 2004

Feb. 28, 2004

I wish use Dillo but I got an error, I apprecite if somebody can help me. make make all-recursive make[1]: Cambiando a directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0' Making all in doc make[2]: Cambiando a directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/doc' make[2]: No se hace nada para `all'. make[2]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/doc' Making all in src make[2]: Cambiando a directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' Making all in IO make[3]: Cambiando a directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/IO' make[3]: No se hace nada para `all'. make[3]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/IO' make[3]: Cambiando a directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' gcc -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -Wall -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Waggregate-return -L/usr/local/lib -o dillo chain.o commands.o cache.o capi.o dw.o dw_aligned_page.o dw_bullet.o dw_button.o dw_container.o dw_embed_gtk.o dw_ext_iterator.o dw_gtk_scrolled_frame.o dw_gtk_scrolled_window.o dw_gtk_statuslabel.o dw_gtk_viewport.o dw_hruler.o dw_image.o dw_list_item.o dw_marshal.o dw_page.o dw_style.o dw_table.o dw_table_cell.o dw_tooltip.o dw_widget.o findtext.o selection.o web.o progressbar.o dillo.o bookmark.o dicache.o dns.o gif.o jpeg.o png.o html.o image.o misc.o interface.o history.o nav.o plain.o menu.o prefs.o colors.o bitvec.o klist.o strbuf.o url.o cookies.o IO/libDio.a -ljpeg -L/usr/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lz -lpthread png.o: En la función `Png_error_handling': /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:116: referencia a `png_get_error_ptr' sin definir png.o: En la función `Png_datainfo_callback': /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:136: referencia a `png_get_progressive_ptr' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:139: referencia a `png_get_IHDR' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:153: referencia a `png_get_valid' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:167: referencia a `png_get_gAMA' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:182: referencia a `png_read_update_info' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:184: referencia a `png_get_IHDR' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:187: referencia a `png_get_rowbytes' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:188: referencia a `png_get_channels' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:178: referencia a `png_set_interlace_handling' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:173: referencia a `png_set_gray_to_rgb' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:168: referencia a `png_set_gamma' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:161: referencia a `png_set_strip_16' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:157: referencia a `png_set_expand' sin definir png.o: En la función `Png_datarow_callback': /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:221: referencia a `png_get_progressive_ptr' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:223: referencia a `png_progressive_combine_row' sin definir png.o: En la función `Png_dataend_callback': /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:282: referencia a `png_get_progressive_ptr' sin definir png.o: En la función `Png_callback': /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:381: referencia a `png_process_data' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:350: referencia a `png_check_sig' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:356: referencia a `png_create_read_struct' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:362: referencia a `png_create_info_struct' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:367: referencia a `png_set_progressive_read_fn' sin definir /home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src/png.c:325: referencia a `png_destroy_read_struct' sin definir collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [dillo] Error 1 make[3]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Saliendo directorio `/home/pr114793/Downloads/dillo-0.8.0' make: *** [all] Error 2 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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[Dillo-dev]CVS
by Pete Feb. 26, 2004

Feb. 26, 2004

Can someone fill me in a little on the CVS process. I just installed from the CVS server. Now say for example I want to update every week...or whenver there is progress made. How do I do this? I am pretty sure I dont do what I just did to install it. FreeBSD btw. Thanks -- Pete http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

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[Dillo-dev]Re: Upcoming review.
by Gavin Henry Feb. 25, 2004

Feb. 25, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> To: Gavin Henry <ghenry(a)fedoranews.org> Cc: Dillo mailing list <dillo-dev(a)auriga.wearlab.de> Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:22:38 -0300 (CLST) Subject: Re: Upcoming review. > [list: this was originally a personal answer to Gavin, but as it > has general interest information I'm CC to dillo-dev. > It's about a browser comparison article. ] > > Gavin, > > > [...] > > Thanks, I saw a few of these. I will check out the wording etc. Mine might > > not be so in depth, more of a general features thing. But there will be > > figures ie load times etc. which I am sure yours will win. > > :) > > > Know of any monster sites, that would be a good benchmark for the browsers. I > > have ADSL, so banwidth shouldn't be an issue. > > There're some interesting tests to be done. Which one you > choose depends on the time you have, and on what you want to test > for. > > For instance, IMHO, the common "web experience" has four > important factors: So far I have tested the browsers on slashdot, and bbc.co.uk and a few others. They all seem to wait until some pictures arrive until rendering anything. I haven't time these yet. Dillo, displays text immediately, but has some difficulty with CSS. For instance fedoranews.org looks bad :-) Are you familiar with http://wwww.udcast.com/ whcih runs freebsd and has customised apache etc. I thought maybe you have done something like this. As my day job www.invsat.com we had a demo from them and they explained the priciple of http precaching. Instead of requesting 4 images then waiting, it requests all images at once, as this then reduces the latency across a satellite link. Is this how your browser works? (*I haven't look at any code as of yet ;-) ) > > * Network wait time > > * Rendering wait time > > * Time to start seeing content > - streamed rendering > > * Site usability These will be what I base the benchmarks on. > > These are key factors; for instance the same site may be > unusable depending on whether you're on a dialup or broad band. > The same is true for rendering time (influenced by CPU power and > available memory); you may end going to some site only when > you're sitting at a powerful workstation. I don't have access to dial-up, but I have a celeron 400 and a athlon xp 2000 to test on. > > The time to start seeing content is also important. If it takes > too long, it may exceed the user's patience (there're studies > about this). For instance, if a browser needs the whole table > to start rendering, some table-based sites will be exceedingly > annoying to visit (unless your band-width can mitigate this). Dillo is very fast on this. > > The site usability is another key factor. For instance if it's > designed for a certain browser, it may be impossible to use with > another. Alot seem broken. I will properly read the review site you posted so I can see what result they found. > Now, getting back to the test suggestions you asked, these > points can be isolated. > > * Network wait time: > > Get to a site with multiple images, ideally with some coming > from other sites. I'm sure you will find a better example for > an english speaking audience, but this link illustrates the idea: > > http://www.lun.com/_portada/contenido.asp Alot of pics n this one ;) > > * Rendering wait time > > Very simple, load a semi complex page (like slashdot with > comments --a 500KB one), or a large one (as the mysql manual -- I > have one which is more than two Megabytes long). > > Press back, the forward. (you can have some coffee :) Slashdot works perfect. What do you define as a compliant site? All done in CSS? no java script or flash? xhtml or html? Oops, meant for usability section. > > * Time to start seeing content > - streamed rendering > > Get to a table-based semi complex page (300Kb-600Kb) and > measure the time between asking for the URL and when you can > start reading. > > * Site usability > > Well, this depends on whether the page respects standards, how > broken the site implementation is, the browser's support for > the technologies involved, user preferences (javascript may be > disabled, same for cookies, a JVM may not be present, same for > flash, etc). Got it. > > -- > > Now that's for having some numbers to show inside a table for > people with above the average knowledge about browsers :-) > > (very interesting, but not massive). Nope, but very interesting. I will need a quick hand on the stop watch :-) > > Simple usability experience can be explained to less technical > people: > > For instance, take dillo, and dig for something using google. > You'll find that the time you use to make different queries and > to check for alternative links until you find what you look for > is better than with almost anything you've used before. Noticed that. > > The same is true for browsing local documentation (all of those > html files under the /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc directories). > This happens because the combined rendering speed and low > download time (a filesystem) let you move very quickly, back and > forward, make text searches inside the pages, go to another link, > saving you lots of time. Agreed. > > Going with dillo to any web site is different, if it respects > standards (ans so renders OK) its great, but if not, you'll have > to resort to a bigger browser. Agreed. :-( > > The other important points to consider is to test with > different band widths and CPU power. You'll barely notice how > fast dillo is on a 2.2 Ghz machine, and if you only test on broad > band you'll never know that it's possible to have a good browsing > experience with a simple dialup. > > That's it. > > Cheers > Jorge.- - ------- End of Original Message ------- Thanks Jorge, I really appreciate your time and expertise. I think these will be used as the basis for browser benchmarks, stealling the reasoning you gave for the introductions :-) I will give you a preview of it as it starts to resemble something readable. Thanks again. P.S> I posted this to the list from my company account too. - -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Director. Open Source. 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[Dillo-dev]CVS password
by Jeremy Henty Feb. 24, 2004

Feb. 24, 2004

Hello people, I just tried to download from CVS as per the instructions on your CVS page and I'm getting kicked out. I have tried guessing passwords (my email, "guest", "anonymous") but nothing works. What am I doing wrong? (I am running CVS 1.11.11 on Linux 2.4.25 .) $ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@auriga.wearlab.de:/sfhome/cvs/dillo login Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@auriga.wearlab.de:2401/sfhome/cvs/dillo CVS password: cvs login: authorization failed: server auriga.wearlab.de rejected access to /sfhome/cvs/dillo for user anonymous Cheers, Jeremy

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[Dillo-dev]Re: Upcoming review.
by Jorge Arellano Cid Feb. 24, 2004

Feb. 24, 2004

[list: this was originally a personal answer to Gavin, but as it has general interest information I'm CC to dillo-dev. It's about a browser comparison article. ] Gavin, > [...] > Thanks, I saw a few of these. I will check out the wording etc. Mine might > not be so in depth, more of a general features thing. But there will be > figures ie load times etc. which I am sure yours will win. :) > Know of any monster sites, that would be a good benchmark for the browsers. I > have ADSL, so banwidth shouldn't be an issue. There're some interesting tests to be done. Which one you choose depends on the time you have, and on what you want to test for. For instance, IMHO, the common "web experience" has four important factors: * Network wait time * Rendering wait time * Time to start seeing content - streamed rendering * Site usability These are key factors; for instance the same site may be unusable depending on whether you're on a dialup or broad band. The same is true for rendering time (influenced by CPU power and available memory); you may end going to some site only when you're sitting at a powerful workstation. The time to start seeing content is also important. If it takes too long, it may exceed the user's patience (there're studies about this). For instance, if a browser needs the whole table to start rendering, some table-based sites will be exceedingly annoying to visit (unless your band-width can mitigate this). The site usability is another key factor. For instance if it's designed for a certain browser, it may be impossible to use with another. Now, getting back to the test suggestions you asked, these points can be isolated. * Network wait time: Get to a site with multiple images, ideally with some coming from other sites. I'm sure you will find a better example for an english speaking audience, but this link illustrates the idea: http://www.lun.com/_portada/contenido.asp * Rendering wait time Very simple, load a semi complex page (like slashdot with comments --a 500KB one), or a large one (as the mysql manual -- I have one which is more than two Megabytes long). Press back, the forward. (you can have some coffee :) * Time to start seeing content - streamed rendering Get to a table-based semi complex page (300Kb-600Kb) and measure the time between asking for the URL and when you can start reading. * Site usability Well, this depends on whether the page respects standards, how broken the site implementation is, the browser's support for the technologies involved, user preferences (javascript may be disabled, same for cookies, a JVM may not be present, same for flash, etc). -- Now that's for having some numbers to show inside a table for people with above the average knowledge about browsers :-) (very interesting, but not massive). Simple usability experience can be explained to less technical people: For instance, take dillo, and dig for something using google. You'll find that the time you use to make different queries and to check for alternative links until you find what you look for is better than with almost anything you've used before. The same is true for browsing local documentation (all of those html files under the /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc directories). This happens because the combined rendering speed and low download time (a filesystem) let you move very quickly, back and forward, make text searches inside the pages, go to another link, saving you lots of time. Going with dillo to any web site is different, if it respects standards (ans so renders OK) its great, but if not, you'll have to resort to a bigger browser. The other important points to consider is to test with different band widths and CPU power. You'll barely notice how fast dillo is on a 2.2 Ghz machine, and if you only test on broad band you'll never know that it's possible to have a good browsing experience with a simple dialup. That's it. Cheers Jorge.-

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Re: [Dillo-dev]Frame support in CVS
by Kelson Vibber Feb. 23, 2004

Feb. 23, 2004

On Saturday 21 February 2004 5:19 am, Andreas Kemnade wrote: > I have tried to update Frank's patch. It is not well tested or cleaned > up yet but I simply need to take a deep breath. Thanks! I tried to do that a week or so ago, but didn't get far enough for it to be useful. The patch you posted works so far here (minus obvious things like the incomplete splash page). I've posted some test RPMs in the usual spot, if anyone's interested. > The patch has one big problem. It is too big. Not that it bloats dillo, > but it is hard to review such a big patch. Perhaps it can be split up > and then be committed piece by piece. Has anyone ideas how to split it? > Perhaps in the DilloDoc/BrowserWindow separation, the kbnav thing and > frame support? Agreed. My suggestion would be to pare it down to just what's needed for frames and tabs. Rip out the kbnav changes, the splash screen changes, and everything else. Once that's done, maybe separate the pieces further just to make the pieces easier to review. Maybe three chunks: the doc/window split, frames support, and tabs support. > So what's the way to get frames into cvs? I suspect that the smaller and easier-to-review the patch is, the better chance it'll have of getting accepted. (But I'm just an interested end-user and packager, not a core developer, so what do I know?) > I would not like to see Frank's effort lost. Neither would I! -- Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

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[Dillo-dev]Italian help translation
by Andrea Spadaccini Feb. 22, 2004

Feb. 22, 2004

Hi, list! I'm a new user of Dillo, and I found it GREAT! It's handy at home, my PII-400 likes it; at the university is EVEN BETTER (we have PI-133, so you can imagine how sluggish is netscape..). I'm writing to ask if I can translate Dillo help in Italian: is there someone else that is translating in italian? If there isn't, which files should I translate, and where should I send them? Thanks for you great work! -- Andrea Spadaccini -- a.k.a. Lupino / Lupin85 - Catania - -:* Powered by Slackware Linux 9.1 *:-

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[Dillo-dev]0.8.0 issue
by Pete Feb. 22, 2004

Feb. 22, 2004

Greetings all, I certainly hate to complain after all the good work has been done in this new version of Dillo. I wont complain, I will ask a question: When I open Dillo up, if I try to open my bookmarks I get a hard lockup and have to 'xkill' dillo. Anytime I try bookmarks after that, things work just fine. It is only the initial time when I open Dillo that I have this issue. Anyone else have this issue? Running Free BSD 5.1-RC Thanks for the good work! -- Pete http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

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[Dillo-dev]Resuming...
by Jorge Arellano Cid Feb. 22, 2004

Feb. 22, 2004

Hi there, I'm back from my week off! It was very nice with plenty of good times in the southern part of Chile. A bit short but reassuring! In fact it was a few days ago that I started moving the large stack of emails and pending issues... Those still waiting for an answer, please be patient, just keep sending periodic remainders to the mailing list just in case I get lost in the email pile. ;) (email is kind of an entropic activity: the more you write, the more you receive). One of the already answered was a request from LinuxDevices. Now you can check their coverage of 0.8.0 release here: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6109819427.html Greetings to everyone Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]GTK error
by Riccardo Feb. 22, 2004

Feb. 22, 2004

Hello, dillo 0.8.0 (well, the last pre series I think...) dies from time to time with this error: Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 6737 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0 this is on solaris, gtk 1.2.10 -Ric

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[Dillo-dev]CSS pre-release
by Sebastian Geerken Feb. 22, 2004

Feb. 22, 2004

Hi! For those interested in the work on CSS, there is a pre-release at <http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.0-css-1.tar.gz>. Don't expect too much, it is rather incomplete, even the splash screen cannot be displayed :-) (because of a syntax error in it). It is based on dillo 0.8.0, although much of the functionality in the latter is missing. See the file README for further informations. Sebastian

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[Dillo-dev]Frame support in CVS
by Jacky Lam Feb. 22, 2004

Feb. 22, 2004

Hi, all, I am new to dillo and I want to use dillo with frame support. I try dillo in CVS and find it only show some link pages for each frames respectively. Is it the current status? How about Frank patches? Thanks. Best regards, Jacky

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[Dillo-dev]dillo execution error
by Nagaraja Feb. 20, 2004

Feb. 20, 2004

Hi All, Has any one in the list got dillo working on Strong-Arm (SA1110), I am getting the error when I run dillo-0.7.3. my board is strong-ARM(SA1110) with 128 Mb RAM . currently I am using toolchain build with gcc-332,glibc-232 and binutils-214 to cross compile the dillo. I build the toolchain with msoft-float enabled in gcc and glibc by applying the patches downloaded from http://www.kegel.com/crosstool/ When I searched for the error I found them in the xc/lib/X11/XErrorDB file ,actually I compiled Xserver(X421src-1.tgz X421src-2.tgz, X421src-3.tgz) as usual i.e make World , make and make install since I could't find a way to enable msoft-float option in Xserver cross.def file. Has any one here got an idea what is going wrong here, is it toolchain problem or Xserver cross-compilation problem. same package(dillo-0.7.3) works fine with my previous toolchain used gcc-323,glibc-232 and binutils-21321 with same Xserver. The error is ....... Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Gdk-WARNING **: can not set locale modifiers dillo_dns_init: Here we go! Disabling cookies. Nav_open_url: Url=>about:splash< Gdk-ERROR **: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) serial 527 error_code 11 request_code 45 minor_code 0 Gdk-ERROR **: BadFont (invalid Font parameter) serial 528 error_code 7 request_code 47 minor_code 0 Thank you all in advance Regards Nagaraja

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[Dillo-dev]rendering 0.7.3 vs. 0.8
by John Feb. 16, 2004

Feb. 16, 2004

Hi, I was presently surprised to see slashdot readable again. Oddly enough, some other websites are not rendering properly anymore. Here is an example: http://damnsmalllinux.org/0.7.3_vs_0.8.png The Dillo on top is 0.8 while the one on the bottom is 0.7.3. Regards, John

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[Dillo-dev]dillo question
by Globe Trotter Feb. 15, 2004

Feb. 15, 2004

Hi, New to dillo, and like it! But can not get www.washingtonpost.com to display. Any ways around it? I a using Fedora Core 1 and version dillo 0.80. The idea of having non-bloated software is so wonderful and something I so deeply believe in!! Thanks for working on it!!! Best wishes! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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[Dillo-dev]Thanks!!
by Scorpio Rising Feb. 13, 2004

Feb. 13, 2004

Hey Devs, Just a note to say that Dillo 0.8 configured, compiled and installed flawlessly. Good work! Thanks, -- Gregg

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