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[Dillo-dev]building 0.8.1 on slack4.0 (libc5)
by robert w hall 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

I'm trying to compile dillo 0.8.1 to use on my old 486-based laptop (with slack 4.0, which is libc5-based). I've compiled glib + gtk 1.2.10 from source, but have no other libs like libjpeg, libpng etc. The binary starts to run then collapses in gdk error - error 11 in X-server (or similar message) Any advice? -- robert w hall

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[Dillo-dev]Bug Meter suggestion
by Kyle Amon 13 Jun '04

13 Jun '04

Suggestion: On of the bullet items under the "What can I do?" section of the new "About Dillo's Bug Meter" page (http://www.dillo.org/help/bug_meter.html) is ... * Help page authors and webmasters to provide standards-compliant contents (For instance, you can copy&paste the error messages produced by Dillo, and mail them to the author). While a nice idea in theory, almost no one is likely to do such a thing nearly as often as one encounters bugs in websites since it would entail one spend most of their browser time sanitizing the web rather than surfing it. Therefore, to facilitate such activity in a manner the user is likely to engage in, I suggest this be made an automatic dillo option (perhaps even the default behavior). In other words, have dillo automatically email these error messages to webmaster(a)wwwdomain.com so the user doesn't have to do so manually. Since computers are unbothered by the same monotony humans usually don't have much time for anyway, let the computer [via dillo] do the work here. At the very least, along side the W3C and WDG validator links in the Bug Meter, a link/exec to send such an email should be provided. If it isn't convienient (at the very least), people won't do it. -- Kyle P.S. I, for one, do about 75% of my browsing in dillo and would be happy to enable such a feature to nag lousy webmasters about their drift toward fascism in html if it were automatic. Beyond that, I might use a handy click/link/exec once in a while, but I doub't I'd ever send such a nag manually, much less often... and I'm pretty sure I'm not too unique in this regard. -- Kyle Amon email: amonk(a)gnutec.com url: http://www.gnutec.com/~amonk/ KeyID 1024D/4EB96E44 Fingerprint = E9EC 0046 8487 23D7 C91C D757 7B2A 8AE9 4EB9 6E44 "The free man is not anti-American, but anti-imperial. America [now] revisits the time of colonizers drunk on their superiority, convinced of their liberating mission, and counting on reimbursing themselves directly." -- Regis Debray This email Copyright 2004 by Kyle Amon, Inc., a Florida corporation, 12032 Colonial Estates Lane, Riverview, FL 33569-6894: +1 (813) 689-4041 amonk(a)gnutec.com http://www.gnutec.com/~amonk/. All rights reserved.

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Re: [Dillo-dev]Some remarks on the UI
by Jorge Arellano Cid 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Sebastian Geerken wrote: > Hi, > > I've just committed several changes, which fix the issues mentioned > here. Please test and report any bugs. If you are not sure, whether > you have detected a bug, it's certainly a misfeature, so report it > anyway :-) I reviewed the patch and commited some changes. Here go my comments: * I liked very much the new menu-title widget! * gcc showed some "missing initializer" warnings. It was the lack of the latest pointer in three GtkTypeInfo structures. Fixed. * The "." shortcut was not working. Fixed. * There was a warning for a signed/unsigned comparison, so I switched _GtkExtButton's pressed_button to guint. Fixed. * The "View Page Bugs" menu item for the page menu doesn't work. It went to a segfault once. NOT fixed. Some inside comments refer to unused code, for instance on Home and reload buttons. Yes, it was meant for future extensions (e.g. a reload images menu item). Now that there's a new way to code this (as with Back and Forward), the old way can be safely deleted. I changed the text for the tooltips of these buttons. Lots of mouses have two buttons and emulate the middle-click when both are pressed, so "right-click" and "middle-click" are a bit better than numbers in this case. It was nice to see the middle-click over "clear-url" button as a shortcut for paste. It'd be perfect if the entry can be focused at the same time. > > On Tue, Jun 01, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > On Mon, 31 May 2004, Sebastian Geerken wrote: > > > 1. Bug meter: The bug meter button reacts on the "pressed" event, to > > > show the window, but it should react on the "clicked" signal. > > > Popping up a window after a "pressed" signal is usually only done > > > for volatile windows (like menus, or overview windows, like in > > > GIMP, which often vanish again, after releasing the mouse button). > > > > > > Reacting on "pressed" is always a bit problematic, also because the > > > pointer grab initiated with this event can cause side-effects. > > Fixed. > > > > Furthermore, it should not have a relief, compare to the "Hide > > > Controls" button. > > Also fixed, I've removed the relief. Yes, the toolbar icons and the "Hide controls" one are OK without a relief, but after watching how the bug-meter button looks without a relief, and how much it hints the user of being a button, I'd much prefer to have the relief back. Note that the "Hide controls" button has a drawed frame around that helps getting the idea of it being a button! Perhaps a more orthogonal way of doing it is to have a relief for both, but it's simpler to keep it as it was. > > > > 2. The menus behind the "Back" and "Forward" buttons: Consider the > > > following scenario: > > > > > > (i) The user presses button 3 on the "Back" button, and the menu > > > is shown. > > > > > > (ii) He keeps the button pressed, moves to one entry in the menu, > > > and releases the button. Nothing happens. > > > > > > Currently, the menu items only react on "button_press", which is > > > anyway wrong (see above). Furthermore, in this situation, the item > > > should already react on the "release" event, either as described > > > above, or in the way (i) click on menu, (ii) click on menu > > > entry. The current behaviour is that much confusing, that a user > > > may think that it does not work at all. (I did!) > > > > Yes. Sometime ago Ricardo Persichetti sent me a patch for this. > > It's just a couple of lines. Now on CVS for testing purposes, > > plus enhanced pixmaps for Back and Forward that hint their right > > click menus. > > I've written two new widgets, GtkExtMenu and GtkExtMenuItem, which > handle this in a cleaner way. Connecting to "button-release-event" has > several disadvantages, what I've seen until now, is: (i) keyboard > navigation was not handled, and (ii) the menu was hidden too late. > > The new widgets resemble the standard way as far as possible, so > problems shouldf be minimized. Good! > > > BTW, it is not very obvious, that there is a menu behind these two > > > buttons. Perhaps there should be, in the icon, a small arrow > > > directed downdwards, or so. > > > > Done! > > You forgot the small icons, this is fixed now. Also, I've added text > to the tooltips. Cute icons :) > > > 3. Attached is the incomplete code of a new widget, which changes the > > > behaviour of GtkButton: > > > > > > (i) It reacts also on button 2 and 3, this would make multiple > > > functions for one button possible. Actually, this feature > > > should be reserved for very few situation (since it is simply > > > confusing), namely the "Clear URL" button, which may also be > > > used for visiting the URL in the selection buffer. > > > > > > (ii) It provides a function for attaching a menu in a better way, > > > than we have currently, for the "Back" and "Forward" menus, > > > and for the bug meter. > > > > > > Simply copy all files into one directory, call "make", and run > > > "testprg". Look, what happens with different mouse buttons. > > > > Interesting. I went through the code a bit. > > > > It's not obvious to me how to modify them to be able to provide > > the same functionality (new window on middle click on history), > > and not to screw the design at the same time. > > Has been enhanced integrated (for forward, backward, and bug > meter). See comments in the code. Good work. It looks cleaner too. Cheers Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]fixed font failed in dillo on NetBSD
by tman 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

I updated packages from source dated June 7 including (amoung others): fontconfig-2.2.95 perl-5.8.4 glib-1.2.10nb6 gtk+-1.2.10nb7 glib2-2.4.2 gtk2+-2.4.2 atk-1.6.1 pango-1.4.0 x11-links-0.23 dillo-0.8.1 When I ran dillo after upgrading, no fonts displayed in the browser. Before updating, fonts displayed. In dillorc I changed vw_fontname from default heletica to lucida, and dillo now displays variable width font. I changed fw_fontname from default courier to fixed, and then lucidatypewriter, but cannot get fixed fonts to display. What busted?

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[Dillo-dev]Dillo: Bug#568
by Jorge Arellano Cid 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

Hi, There's: 568 Impact: soft error At: run time Type: render bug Comments: When a button tooltip is displayed, and you scroll the page with the keyboard, dillo fails to render the newly exposed content. This is the same behaviour reported for images in bug 289. HTReproduce: Open any page taller than the view area, place the mouse over a dillo control, when the tool tip appears, scroll the page with the keyboard. WorkedBy: nobody Submitter: dmckee*jlab*org in the bug track. I can't reproduce it, so maybe it's a GTK problem. What version are you using? (BTW dillo 0.8.1 or CVS is assumed). I tried several pages, but for instance, going to our home page, making the tooltip for bookmarks appear, and scrolling with the keyboard works OK for me. Can anyone reproduce this bug? Cheers Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]patch for bug 211
by Diego Sáenz 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

Hello. Here i send a patch for the dillo bug 211 (remember save dir on save and open dialogs) based on a pactch for an old version of dillo (0.6.¿?). it was made for 0.8.1 but apply in current cvs too. Each dillo window remember its own save dir. Sorry if this is not the right place to send patchs. DarkSpirit/Diego Sáenz

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[Dillo-dev][전체회신] Re: [Dillo-dev]Downloads File
by vinod＠etri.re.kr 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

Hi Jorge > Hi all Hi Vinod. I assume you received my email, and after considering, you decided to work on the GUI dpi for downloads. (please confirm me that) # Yes. I did intend to confirm after reply from mailing list regarding work. > I am pretty new to Dillo and would like to work on the downloads file. > [dpi] Please could anyone guide me on the present structure and what > enhancement or modifications to be made ? > > The overview of the current structure : > > 3 Structures - DownloadFile, DownloadStatus and DownloadWindow > > Api's to start and free new download, update status, list and create log, > get download size and time, add download to list and start and close > download. Also, api's for read socket and print list are provided. > > Can anyone tell me how to enhance this structure better ? There're two problems with the GUI dpi as is: 1.- it doesn't work reliably 2.- it's too complex for the things it does So, the work basically is to play with it a bit to know what features are provided (the new one should provide the same), simplify the internal representation and algorithms (the GUI part, the part of the code that comes from the original dpi needs not to be touched), and finally debug and perform stress tests to achieve reliability. # Thanks Jorge, Will peruse through the code this weekend. Cheers Jorge.- Regards Vinod Joseph _______________________________________________ Dillo-dev mailing list Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev

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[Dillo-dev]Using alternate char for TABBING
by Deon Stoltz 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

I have recently discovered dillo and am delighted! Very fast and lightweight. We want to use if in a settop box application (thus the lightweight requirement). We need to interface to a IR remote control device so no keyboard are available. Web pages can normally be navigated with the TAB key. In our application we need to associate the TAB key with another key eg: ctrl-A. Do somebody know how, where to do this? I had a look in the code but I am not that strong on c++. ANY help will be appreciated! Thanks Deon

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[Dillo-dev]Content outside table border
by Jorge Arellano Cid 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

Hi Sebastian, Just found this page: http://www.757.org/~joat/blog/ look at the small calendar! Best Jorge.-

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[Dillo-dev]Some remarks on the UI
by Sebastian Geerken 06 Jun '04

06 Jun '04

Hi, several remarks on the UI, which should be fixed IMO. 1. Bug meter: The bug meter button reacts on the "pressed" event, to show the window, but it should react on the "clicked" signal. Popping up a window after a "pressed" signal is usually only done for volatile windows (like menus, or overview windows, like in GIMP, which often vanish again, after releasing the mouse button). Reacting on "pressed" is always a bit problematic, also because the pointer grab initiated with this event can cause side-effects. Furthermore, it should not have a relief, compare to the "Hide Controls" button. 2. The menus behind the "Back" and "Forward" buttons: Consider the following scenario: (i) The user presses button 3 on the "Back" button, and the menu is shown. (ii) He keeps the button pressed, moves to one entry in the menu, and releases the button. Nothing happens. Currently, the menu items only react on "button_press", which is anyway wrong (see above). Furthermore, in this situation, the item should already react on the "release" event, either as described above, or in the way (i) click on menu, (ii) click on menu entry. The current behaviour is that much confusing, that a user may think that it does not work at all. (I did!) (The implementation would become a bit tricky, since button 2 will pop up the page in a new window. Perhaps, I'd even suggest to skip this feature, if a clean solution is not possible.) BTW, it is not very obvious, that there is a menu behind these two buttons. Perhaps there should be, in the icon, a small arrow directed downdwards, or so. 3. Attached is the incomplete code of a new widget, which changes the behaviour of GtkButton: (i) It reacts also on button 2 and 3, this would make multiple functions for one button possible. Actually, this feature should be reserved for very few situation (since it is simply confusing), namely the "Clear URL" button, which may also be used for visiting the URL in the selection buffer. (ii) It provides a function for attaching a menu in a better way, than we have currently, for the "Back" and "Forward" menus, and for the bug meter. Simply copy all files into one directory, call "make", and run "testprg". Look, what happens with different mouse buttons. Comments welcome. Sebastian

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