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Re: [Dillo-dev] Some news...
by Ferdi Franceschini July 12, 2003

July 12, 2003

Lars Segerlund wrote: > I have been looking at the dpid, and from what I can see it looks > good, it would be a piece of cake to whip up some usefull dpi's now :-) That's great! > ... I will however dig a bit more, the issue that I am concearned is if > it prohibits some action to be implemented, ( workarounds are ok for me > :-) ). dpid does not prohibit anything, it simply starts a plugin on demand (similar to inetd). > I also have a related question about the dpi's, whith the new > interface, how it fx. a https dpi supposed to work ? and would it be > possible to make fw a svg dpi ? ( thus enabling the dpi to do the > rendering ? I don't think dillo supports https (other than to check that it is used for cookies), and I don't know what plans there are for https support. Can you explain what "fw" and "svg" stand for. For now, just have the dpi open its own window for rendering, we'll worry about how to integrate this with dillo later, you will also need to do this for GUI controls. > Anyhow, for my stumbling attempts whith dpi's it seems to be fully > adequat. That's good. If you have any further questions please let us know. I plan to make a new version of dpid which supports a dpi directory structure in a few days. Regards Ferdi

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TIPS!
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

Hi there! From time to time I find some remarkable articles. The next couple is in our [Links] section, but as most probably some of us have missed them, I want to recommend them explicitly. The make an excellent read for every developer, regardless of the project they're working on. Please take my advice and spare some time to read them, it's all worth of it! http://www.dillo.org/ui-prefs-tips.html http://ometer.com/features.html (both by Havoc Pennington). -- I also noice that sometimes it gets a bit tedious to dig in the mailing list archives, and there was this ancient email about GMANE, and hey! they have a nice search engine. Now there's a link to it from our [Mailing list] page. Enjoy! Jorge.-

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selecting text block larger than window
by Albert Wagner July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

I am having difficulty selecting a block of text that is larger than the window. Moving the cursor above/below the window limits doesn't cause the window to scroll while selecting. Is this something configurable that I have overlooked? Or is it still on a TO-DO list?

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Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo 0.7.3 delayed...
by Jorge Arellano Cid July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Kelson Vibber wrote: > It looks like dillo.auriga.wearlab.de is still referenced in several places > in CVS (at least a few hours ago). > dillorc > doc/Dillo.txt > src/prefs.h > > The second one probably doesn't matter much, but the first and third mean > that the default home page is still pointing to the old site. Thanks a lot Kelson! I just made the changes and commited. Jorge.- PS: I almost forgot to sync with dillo package maintainers (.rpm .deb .tgz).

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Suggestion & patch for browser identification (user-agent)
by Kelson Vibber July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

I know this is too late to even consider for 0.7.3, but I thought I'd get this out for discussion. I've been looking at browser statistics on my website, and started thinking about what various browsers do and don't report in their User-Agent identification. All report their name. Many report the rendering engine (Gecko, KHTML, etc.) Many also report the operating system and the type of system (with varying levels of detail), and some even report the language of the user interface. Here are some examples from my website's server logs: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.1; Linux) Mozilla/4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.18 i686) Opera/7.11 (Linux 2.4.20-18.9 i686; U) [en] Opera/6.0 (Macintosh; PPC Mac OS X; U) [en] Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.22; Mac_PowerPC) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/85 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/85 Some interesting notes: - Netscape and Mozilla always use "X11" for anything X-based, and have a separate field to indicate the actual OS (Linux, Solaris, *BSD, etc.) - Konqueror lets you configure the amount of detail you report. The example here is the default. - Most of the *nix-based strings use qhat you get from uname -sm or uname -srm. - Most browsers designed for Mac OS X report "PPC Mac OS X" - There are possible privacy/security implications of revealing too much information, like your system's kernel version or your primary language. I think that knowing the operating system is interesting, but much more than that probably isn't necessary, so I'd like to suggest one of the following syntaxes to extend the Dillo user-agent string: Dillo/<version> (<system>) Dillo/<version> (<platform>; <system>) Where <system> is the output of "uname -sm" (i.e. Linux PPC, FreeBSD i386, etc) and <platform> is of the form (Windows|Macintosh|X11|etc.) as used by Mozilla (see http://www.mozilla.org/build/revised-user-agent-strings.html ). This would result in identification like the following: Dillo/0.8 (Linux i386) Dillo/0.8 (FreeBSD i686) Dillo/0.8 (Linux PPC) Dillo/0.8 (PPC Mac OS X)* and so on, or perhaps: Dillo/0.8 (X11; Linux i386) Dillo/0.8 (X11; CYGWIN_NT-5.0 i686) to fit Netscape/Mozilla's pattern. * (Aside from the reversed order, Mac OS X would probably show up as Darwin unless a special case is made. This would probably mean setting the User-Agent string once and keeping it in memory instead of building it with each HTTP request. And for the longer syntax there's the issue that it still runs under X, so the platform would probably be X11 instead of Macintosh.) I have attached a quick patch which uses the utsname struct to create the first syntax, and I've tested it successfully on Linux and Cygwin on Intel hardware. So does anyone else think this is a good/bad/interesting idea? And is anyone interested in testing it on *BSD/Solaris/Mac/etc.? -- Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

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# users (OT)
by linux seaq July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

Hi, i wonder how many of us (dillo's users) exists already? --- Andres Mauricio Mujica SEAQ SERVICIOS CIA LTDA www.seaq.com.co

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Porting to Windows?
by Andreas Tolfsen July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

I've just been wondering; Are there any future plans for porting Dillo to the Windows platform? Or is Dillo to stay on GNU/Linux? I think porting to Windows would let Dillo have a much bigger audience to speak to (since about 90% of the worlds computers run Windows). I just wondered if there were any plans? Best regards for a wonderful open-source browser, Andreas Tolfsen <ato(a)itnerd.net>

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Suggestion & patch for browser identification
by linux seaq July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

It's a good idea; Would be nice if also the info reported could be configured with dillorc. -- Andres Mauricio Mujica SEAQ SERVICIOS CIA LTDA www.seaq.com.co

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the same name ronnie!!!!!!
by ronnie July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

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some newbie questions!!
by ronnic July 9, 2003

July 9, 2003

hi all I have enjoied dillo and want make it support chinese (a challenge to me ^o^ ),but i encountered some questions: 1)I can not understand the CCC function modules; 2)How the dillo get the HTML documents after establish socket connect; 3)when getting the file how dillo write to the proper dw archtecture; (please tell me by using detail function ) thanks all !!!!! --http://www.eyou.com --ÎÈ¶š¿É¿¿µÄÃâ·Ñµç×ÓÐÅÏä ÓïÒôÓÊŒþ ÒÆ¶¯ÊéÇ© ÈÕÀú·þÎñ ÍøÂçŽæŽ¢...ÒÚÓÊÎŽŸ¡

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