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worried about dillo (cathedral and bazaar)
by linux seaq Jan. 27, 2004

Jan. 27, 2004

Hi, i want to express my gratitude with the dillo developers, this is a really nice product, i use it everyday. I use mozilla only for banking, hotmail and flash sites. I'm only a user i'm not a developer, so my point of view is mainly from an user's perspective. Since dillo's win32 fork and previous discussion, it was clear to me that dillo development was, in some way, closed. That odd feeling was confirmed by the "memo" sent by main developers about patches and additions to dillo. Since that mail, all the "foreign" contributors stopped to share their improvements to dillo project.Or it seems to me at this time (PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG) That's really sad 'cause what i'm seeing right now is some kind of slowness on the development of dillo, and somehow is getting behind in needed functionality (frames,https,downloads,images, a lot of stuff out there). - from an user point of view - I recently re-read the cathedral and bazar paper, and thought to my self that dillo was heading in another direction. It seems to me that there's no intention to receive help from others, or get into account other's contributions. I believed that the main force behind a project weren't its main developers but its users and contributors. That mix made projects grow and grow. And dillo rejected that "magical" force. I'm just writing these thoughts, because as i said, i'm worried about dillo. I can't even imagine how painful would be to surf the web without it. Please everyone who loves dillo, do something so this nice project can grow without restrictions. Please don't get me wrong i don't want to start a trial, i just want dillo to evolve and get better everyday, with everyone help. Regards, Andres

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small politically incorrect html parser patch
by Madis Janson Jan. 27, 2004

Jan. 27, 2004

when you want to use dillo for browsing instead of html test tool, then this little patch is useful for many stupid webs, which randomly close or not close font tags whenever happens and whereever happens... diff -pru -x CVS -x configure -x 'aclocal*' -x 'Makefile*' -x config.h.in dillo-tab/src/html.c dillo/src/html.c --- dillo-tab/src/html.c 2004-01-25 04:37:21.000000000 +0200 +++ dillo/src/html.c 2004-01-27 04:27:18.000000000 +0200 @@ -4280,7 +4372,7 @@ static const TagInfo Tags[] = { {"dt", 'O', Html_tag_open_dt, Html_tag_close_par}, {"em", 'R', Html_tag_open_em, Html_tag_close_default}, /* fieldset */ - {"font", 'R', Html_tag_open_font, Html_tag_close_default}, + {"font", 'O', Html_tag_open_font, Html_tag_close_default}, {"form", 'R', Html_tag_open_form, Html_tag_close_form}, {"frame", 'F', Html_tag_open_frame, Html_tag_close_nop}, {"frameset", 'R', Html_tag_open_frameset, Html_tag_close_default}, It makes a bit less likely, that the font tags screw up every other one (like tables and forms)...

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Dillo cookies
by pete Jan. 27, 2004

Jan. 27, 2004

I am getting this error with Dillo 0.8.0: [pete@happy:.dillo, 07:25 PM, Mon Jan 26]> dillo dillo_dns_init: Here we go! The cookies file has a file lock: disabling cookies in this dillo! Nav_open_url: Url=>about:splash< How do I go about 'unlocking' this file? It was working initially with 0.7.3 Thanks, -- Pete http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

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An odd request, I know...
by Tom Barnes-Lawrence Jan. 26, 2004

Jan. 26, 2004

Hi, Firstly, I'd like to say I've been using Dillo for over 2 years now, and find it fantastic. Well, apart from a few little details (which I'll probably post to the list in a couple of days, when I'm less busy). So anyways, very well done for this piece of software! Now, my strange request: I'm currently writing a bunch of m4 macros to (statically) generate my personal website. Unfortunately, after ages of trying to come up with a decent layout that rendered properly in various browsers, I came up with pretty much nothing. But I kept seeing, every time I started Dillo, the tidy little splash screen... ...So basically, would Jorge (or whoever is responsible for that) mind if I effectively copied the HTML? I wouldn't bother to ask, as I'm just getting my macros to churn out the tags, rather than copying anybody's *content*, but I thought that might be covered by copyright anyway- in which case, I'm being extra cautious before sticking anything up on my site. Thanks in advance, Tom Barnes-Lawrence

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my.yahoo.com
by pete Jan. 26, 2004

Jan. 26, 2004

Hi all, I am now running the CVS version of Dillo. I am seeming to have a lot of lockups with it. Now I know this is common with CVS but is this something that should be mentioned here? Just wondering what is the proper thing to do. Another, I am still trying to access my yahoo with it but still not possible. Am I missing something that I need to do or is this just typical for Yahoo? -- Pete http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

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Thanks!
by Arjen Meek Jan. 26, 2004

Jan. 26, 2004

Just a quick "thank you" to all Dillo-devs here. It has replaced Firebird as my default browser less than 5 minutes after installing it. Some experiences: - Dillo combines perfectly with the Ion window manager. A browser shouldn't have to perform window manager tasks, and tabbed browsing becomes a rather silly concept when a sensible window manager combines with a sensible browser. - 0.7.3 compiles & runs cleanly on my 60 Mhz HP PA-RISC system (712/60 running Debian Woody-hppa), and actually renders pages faster on that system than Firebird does on my 600 Mhz Athlon. - A suggestion: why not have CTRL+L switch focus to the URL bar when it is visible, instead of popping up a dialog box? Keep up the good work! Arjen

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Mailing list
by Jorge Arellano Cid Jan. 26, 2004

Jan. 26, 2004

Hi Thorben! Is good to see you around. You've surely noticed I recently switched dillo-dev to only accept posts from its members. This is because it was receiving too much SPAM; the kind that's crafted to bypass SPAM filters. I don't know the current filtering layout of our list, but the fact is that now I receive (as the list administrator) a confirmation email for each rejected message (?) coming from a non-member. :( If the list SPAM-filters everything before checking whether it comes from a member, it's a sane default I suppose, but considering that I have near 3 confirmation requests a day (that repeat themselves for each day I leave these duties unattended), I wonder if it's possible to simply discard them. Regards Jorge.-

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Bug meter
by Jorge Arellano Cid Jan. 26, 2004

Jan. 26, 2004

Hi there! I just commited the new (big) patch that adds a "bug meter" to Dillo's UI. From the Changelog: + Added a bug-meter button that shows the count of detected HTML errors (left click shows the errors, right click offers a validation menu). + Removed the "show_html_warnings" option from dillorc. + Cleaned up the code for the progressbar widgets. Most probably this CVS, plus a few improvements to our configure stuff (compiling in old distros, png detection and proper library linking) will be the basis for dillo-0.8.0-rc1. Please test it and enjoy! Cheers Jorge.- PS: I'm for letting "combat mode" rendering and https for 0.8.1 as its been too much time without a release.

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Re: dillo 0.73 not compiling on slackware 3.9 ( libc5 ) (fwd)
by Jorge Arellano Cid Jan. 25, 2004

Jan. 25, 2004

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:20:04 +0200 (EET) From: matti christensen <mchriste(a)welho.com> To: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> Subject: Re: dillo 0.73 not compiling on slackware 3.9 ( libc5 ) ok - said and done - and Dillo 0.73 rocks as expected ! what i would like to have is instruction of compiling the libraries myself /mc On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > Matti, > > > > > ok - now i've recompiled x 3.3.6 with threads library installed - i also > > recompiled glib, gtk+ and dillo 0.73 - but without success - error message > > is different though; > > > > Gdk-ERROR **: Fatal IO error 11 (Try again) on X server :0.0. > > > > so - what would You suggest ?! > > Please try the pre-compiled libs I suggested. > > I will have to intall a libc5 slackware one of these days to > test this and another issues, but currently my time is devoted to > finishing the "bug-meter" feature for the soon to come 0.8.0 > release. > > Cheers > Jorge.- > > PS: Oh, by the way, sometime ago Jorgen asked me to test the > Fallback libpng detection code of a patch. Can you do that, and > get in contact with him for details? > > > > > > > reentrant ???! > > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Matti, > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, matti christensen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > do You remember short email discussion with me; compiling Dillo 0.73 on > > > > slak 3.9 with resulting binary which did not run ( i sent an email after > > > > this one and adding threads library etc...) > > > > > > Yes I do. > > > > > > > do You think it might be possible to make Dillo run on this laptop ?! > > > > > > Absolutely! > > > > > > I was about to suggest you trying older versions of dillo to > > > find out which one is the last one to compile/run cleanly on > > > slk3.9, but I had a feel that I've seen this before: > > > > > > > Gdk-ERROR **: Fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server :0.0. > > > > > > And then I remembered that the standard X server packages that > > > come with slk are not reentrant (thread safe), and that some time > > > ago I had to uprade it and some libs of X from a site of a nice > > > german guy that has done it. > > > > > > I don't have the link now, but for instance look at: > > > > > > http://www.linuxsavvy.com/resources/ > > > > > > There you'll find Reentrant XFree86 3.3.3 Libraries. > > > > > > You can try those, or google until finding 3.3.6 reentrant or > > > recompile them reentrant. > > > > > > > > > I Hope this helps > > > > > > Cheers > > > Jorge.- > > > > > > PS: Please let me know hot it goes. > > > > > > > > > > >

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CPU usage
by pete Jan. 25, 2004

Jan. 25, 2004

Greetings, I notice when I have Dillo open for any bit of time, my CPU usage gets about 98%. Any ideas on fixes for this? O/S is FreeBSD 4.9. I notice this happens on my sons machine as well...same O/S. Thanks! -- Pete http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

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