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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD on Social Media?
by LM 02 Sep '20

02 Sep '20

Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote: > I like open social media. But if that's our only outlet to promote SFD, > we're preaching to the choir. If you want to reach people who aren't > knee deep into open source software, you need to be where they are. I agree with this. The target audience of people who could learn about and benefit from converting to FLOSS is more likely to be found on non-Free platforms. I was really shocked by how many tech and programming groups in my area do not use FLOSS and do not know about most of the FLOSS options. Many are currently promoting Microsoft Teams and Zoom to the public and explaining how to use them. They believe they are doing a public service helping those less knowledgeable about tech to use these types of tools. They also use tools like Meetup, Facebook, Slack and Discord to communicate. Lately, I've been feeling like talking to people in these groups is like talking to a wall, but it would be nice to reach some of the less technical people they're reaching and let them know there are other alternatives before they make their choices. Users who aren't set in their ways are more likely to adopt something different. > Secondly, I'm much in favor of the principle of doing: if you think it's > important, please do it. If nobody is willing to invest the time into > building up the open social media buzz around SFD, If some people are > willing to promote SFD on facebook, twitter or even linkedin... great! I also agree with this. We should hopefully have enough people involved in putting together SFD events that we can do a good job of promoting and publicizing it too. It's pretty much what I do every year. This year, I posted to every FLOSS group on Facebook that I could find and join. I posted to some of the educational groups I'm on. I posted to every FLOSS group I'm on and some of the local tech groups on LinkedIn. There is a SFD group on LinkedIn and I posted a reminder about SFD there. I also posted to Edmodo. I'm also trying to reach the CSTA (contacted three different groups in the CSTA) to try to get them to mention it to their members, but so far, they've just ignored me. Last year, I posted on Meetup on every local group I thought might be interested and on Slack for the local tech groups that ran a Slack channel and I told them at the various tech meetings in person. Had a turn-out of 4 last year, but we still had a great time. We still have some time before SFD, so I'll probably be posting to other groups as well. I'd really like to reach educators this year since they're having a lot of trouble adapting to distance learning and there are some great FLOSS tools that can help with that. I like the concept of https://gettogether.community/ If anyone wants to join and add a post there, I think it will help promote the site. If they have enough activities there, they might actually be able to give Meetup some competition. I talked to one of the local tech groups and their publicizer basically said he only sent members information about meetings from Meetup. So, if sites like https://gettogether.community/ were more popular and people were made aware of them, the general public might start using them more. I typically post a link to the SFD web page and occasionally share the wiki link as well. If people are interested, they can find out what's going on in their area or what's convenient for them to attend.

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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020
by LM 01 Sep '20

01 Sep '20

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > Other possibilities: > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully available? Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't approved by the FSF. Thanks.

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SDF on Social Media?
by Mostafa Ahangarha 01 Sep '20

01 Sep '20

Hi I wanted to know more about the policies of FSD official website regarding social media. There are two questions: * Why SFD social media account on twitter is not active? It is not leading actor in propagation of SFD. * Why SFD has no official account on Fediverse and in particular on Mastodon? Not asking to leave twitter but like FSF, the main account should be on some FLOSS platform. Regards, Mostafa Ahangarha

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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 118, Issue 13
by LM 31 Aug '20

31 Aug '20

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:00 AM SFD-discuss posted: > https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/LICENSE have been under MPLv2 > but https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server/blob/master/LICENSE is > under MIT which is not a compatible Free Software License. > > If you have to blend these 2 to meet your purpose then you are not using > Free Software anymore but the blend will become a proprietary one. Freedom > once compromised then you are not having the freedom anymore brother. :) I thought MIT license was compatible with GNU GPL. It's in the list of licenses marked green on https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#X11License It says FSF recommends Apache 2.0 over this license, but it's still compatible with GNU GPL licenses. I wish the FSF list was more specific over the licenses like the OSI is ( https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT ). It would be nice if they linked to the license text to confirm they are discussing the same license you're reading. By the way, both MPLv2 and MIT are OSI approved licenses. I know both the MinGW-w64 and the MinGW projects chose to move to MIT license for their runtime and API libraries and are using it with the GNU compiler (GPL license). Are you saying that if you use MPLv2 with MIT that it's no longer GPL compatible? Because either license on its own with code that's GPL is compatible. MPLv1.1 is an issue with GPL, but many projects switched to 2 to avoid that.

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Suggestions on how to conduct SFD 2020
by Tawishi Sharma 25 Aug '20

25 Aug '20

I recently attended few events on Hopin and they were really good. But hopin is not an Open source platform. Found this article while looking for os replacement for Hopin. Hope it helps. https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/gldyc2/whats_an_alternative_to… ~Tawishi

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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020
by LM 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

On Thu, Frederic Muller wrote: > therefore the map. Not sure how to display "online events" on a map > though. Suggestion very welcome! My preference would be to put the location of the group running the online event on the map. That way, you can connect with people in your area and possibly meet some time in the future when things are safer. It would be great if anyone doing a virtual online event mentioned that people from other areas of the world are welcome. If someone does not have an event in their area, they could check out one of those virtual events. > To LM: the date is really flexible as it is impossible to find a date > which will work every year in every country. So it's really what works > best in your area. Just make sure the date of your liking is specified > on all your communication, wiki, etc... Thank you. Good to know. In that case, I'll definitely try to do something virtually this year even if it's still a small core turn out like last year. I've been contacting tech groups in my area and so far, haven't found anyone interested in attending or getting involved. I've also been mentioning it on some social media sites and tech forums to see if we can get more new groups involved with Software Freedom Day.

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SFD 2020
by LM 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

Was just wondering when the SFD wiki would be updated for 2020. Seems like a good time to discuss SFD 2020 since it was just mentioned in the Document Freedom Day thread. Just attended a couple of Linux, FLOSS related meetings using Jitsi. I think it would be great this year to host SFD 2020 virtually instead of at our local library. We might even get a bigger turn out. I wasn't impressed with the ability to share slides over Jitsi especially if someone's running it from a mobile device with low bandwidth. However, I have some info/slides I put together on the web for a local tech conference. Could supply the web links for viewing information and slides and have the meeting for SFD via Jitsi. Think it would be fun. With World Tai Chi Day, everyone did Tai Chi from home at 10 AM in there particular time zone. Think it could be really great if any groups doing SFD this year virtually could schedule their sessions at different times (especially if they're already in different time zones) so that people could attend and participate in multiple virtual events. Would also be wonderful to have one page on the SFD wiki that gives times and virtual locations for all the virtual events. I'd also like to come up with some ideas for reaching out to people who may not have the latest and greatest hardware or who have low resource or older computers or maybe just mobile devices. Any ideas on that front would be greatly appreciated. Think now would be a great time to start planning for SFD 2020.

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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020
by LM 11 Aug '20

11 Aug '20

On Sun, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here > http://www.berklix.org/meet/ > Lot of links. More welcome. Here are the FSF links to remote communications: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-softwar… https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication My links on Internet communications and distance learning: https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/14124.html It would be nice to see the event list for 2020 available and a mention of what events are online so people in other areas could join in on those events as well. My biggest problem this year is that I have another engagement on the same day and it can't be moved. I'm wondering if I could celebrate SFD on another date in September or if I'll just have to wait until next year.

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SFD 2020
by LM 12 May '20

12 May '20

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:30 AM <sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org> wrote: > Being a grass root event we probably need to let each team decide what > they want to present (topic - time - language). That could mean more > than 1 streaming channel necessary if we offer the streaming capabilities. Would be nice to let each group choose the software they use to communicate (hopefully a FLOSS one). Depending on what devices/computers people have available in their area, some software solutions will work for some people, some may not. Some people may not have access to high Internet speed or bandwidth. Maybe an IRC chat in some areas as opposed to Jitsi or BigBlueButton would be good for some groups. I'm hoping we can be as inclusive as possible for people to join in, so using different software/mediums should let us reach more people. So many of the virtual events going on now are leaving people out if they don't have the latest hardware/software/best Internet speeds. The SFD organization as a whole could attempt to help schedule the groups so there's as little overlap as possible and people can attend multiple events if they want. The SFD can also be a central place to let people know the schedule of events and where/how to access them. That would put most of the effort on the individual groups and the SFD could concentrate on organization, coordination and helping get the word out via their web site/wiki. > Also I feel there are basic topics which should roll all over the day > such as introduction to FOSS, How to start, communities nearby, etc but > this is only one opinion. For topics that are very general and introductory, it might be nice to have a web, blog or wiki post that we could refer attendees to. Even if some of the groups plan to cover the topics again, it could be useful to have something at the SFD site that points to written or pre-recorded videos of that information that could be called up at any time. Also, would be nice in some cases to provide transcripts if possible especially if someone's hearing impaired. It might be interesting to go through the Linux and Free Software groups listed at https://gettogether.community/ and see if any of them want to participate virtually this year in SFD. We could invite them. > We could do bi-weekly (as in twice a month) IRC meetings with people > interested to organize something and see if anything comes out of it. If you get something up on IRC, please share the meeting info. My main laptop died and I'm using an older laptop. It's taking forever for the new computer I ordered to arrive by mail order. It's very hit and miss for me as to what software will work and what won't. I can get Jitsi working but that's via an Android tablet. Zoom which everyone else seems to be using just crashes. Haven't used IRC on my laptop in ages. Will have to see if the software is even working. I know there were some changes with freenode and some of the other servers to add authentication that made some of my FLOSS IRC software clients unusable with certain servers. Look forward to SFD 2020.

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Document Freedom Day
by Frederic Muller - DFF 11 May '20

11 May '20

Hi! We hope you are all doing ok despite the current problem(s). We received an email from the 'Document Foundation' (Italo Vignoli to be precise). It turned out that way: "The new board at The Document Foundation, the home of LibreOffice, is interested in getting the documentfreedom.org domain from FSFE, as the community is willing to manage the website and the Document Freedom Day activities starting from 2021. The current documentfreedom.org website is still pointing at DFD 2018, so it has not been updated for the last two years, and this is not good for the open source ecosystem and for the Open Document Format, which in the meantime has reached version 1.3. Please let me know your thoughts on the above. Of course, if we get the domain and website, we will be more than happy to see contributions from other projects." We nicely told them the project was active and when contacting LO over 2 years ago they said they had no interest in DFD (I have the message if anyone is interested). And while we would definitely welcome any help, we felt the message was not really nice (or really not nice?) and replied accordingly. Within 2 messages more I was called a liar and told "all the LO people are on the DFD mailing list and haven't seen any communication for 2 years. So here it is. LO will go with a different domain and a same or different event because apparently Italo thinks that if he decides something people should just go along. Just wanted to let everyone know. Kind regards, Fred

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