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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 22, Issue 4
by Salvador Garcia Z. 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org escribió: > Send SFD-discuss mailing list submissions to > sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sfd-discuss-owner(a)sf-day.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SFD-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 2. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 3. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 4. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 5. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Janet Hawtin) > 6. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0530 > From: Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? > To: "Open discussions about SFD" <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> > Message-ID: > <110ee9010808020703m4ac9774fh9608ba355b68784f(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hey I really don't know what a sponsor means... I am thinking of > putting fsf as the sponsor (only sponsor) for the college fest... I > mean just tell me if i can do it and are sponsors the ones who funds > an act (always?)... > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> In the place where I am PPL reallllly don't care about software >> itself!!!! but what about the Wireless connection I did not understan >> what you meant by "two sites"... I got your fabulous work message I'll >> upload photos and give a link in the wiki after that!!!! I mean i >> don't think you are understanding what i said...Look this is my plan >> 1. first each member will choose 2 inet cafes go to the owner, >> negotiate about the Thing and put the processes that cater the info >> on each computer and people who find it interesting can copy a copy by >> clicking on ok... the copy can also be a harmless and always open >> source html instead of an exe... or a native chm which is not quite >> "open"... Got the other message the ethical hacking contest is totally >> from the college I'm just coding the lan site participants need to >> hack...and it does not have anything to do with the open letter... the >> ethical hacking also includes an initial presentation on Hacker >> culture (the tech savvy trend that started at MIT and Theories of >> richard Stallman and some cartoons of his!)... >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> you could make a wireless network between two locations and >>> share irc or video of the two sites. >>> perhaps it could be a community node long term? >>> what do people need where you are? >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> imagine that someone is doing a windows promotion >>>> or a sony cd promotion >>>> what kinds of things would you find intrusive if someone did them to you? >>>> >>>> making freedom is as much giving the user the feeling that they are in >>>> control of their own technology as anything else. >>>> start with that thought. you are making them feel empowered. >>>> what kinds of actions help them recognise that they are in control and >>>> have choice. >>>> and can be supported in those choices. >>>> some of the things which were popular with kids here were the scratch >>>> games which can run on windows but which is openly licensed >>>> and the lovely penguin racer which was very popular and we had people >>>> queuing to play. >>>> >>>> I think its great that youre passionate and thinking differently. >>>> There is so much room for fun without making things which are involuntary. >>>> >>>> Janet >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Reply fast so that i can updat the wiki and other members also... >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> By Giving them an accept/decline button don't you think we are >>>>>> preserving their freedom? It no more becomes a virus the Internet cafe >>>>>> people can be negotiated with to plant a process that caters a copy of >>>>>> the "thing" to every one who plugs in a USB key after asking if they >>>>>> want one.( I mean we can do that on software freedom day in some 20 >>>>>> internet cafe's across India) when the USB buddy goes home and puts >>>>>> the USB on he'll see the best things about software he's ever seen. >>>>>> Think about it how many people can i reach in india in an installfest? >>>>>> If you disagree I'm gonna make the logic bomb into a software that >>>>>> tells people about Free Software and tell them why they need to use >>>>>> free software... and it does not spread people nead to download the >>>>>> software to see the presentation... We'll really make it appealing... >>>>>> But I totally don't think more than 20 people are going to download it >>>>>> (I'm verry friendly and open when i say that..) and you'll have to >>>>>> agree upon that... No freedom cutdown! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanx for the fast reply... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There should be NO activity which is on a users computer without their choice. >>>>>>>> You can offer them a CD >>>>>>>> Cracking is not advocacy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry but the whole idea of free software is that it is liberty for the user. >>>>>>> It doesnt matter whether youre getting into their computer for a cause >>>>>>> which you think of as a useful thing. >>>>>>> The act of removing their choice is in direct contradiction to the >>>>>>> ethos of floss. >>>>>>> Any action which you do for SFD should be respectful of the users >>>>>>> freedom and right to choose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Set up computers which people can try. >>>>>>> Set up a game lan which people can try. >>>>>>> Have software available for people to take away. >>>>>>> Promote the kinds of things you use your free software for. >>>>>>> Have an install fest where people can bring their computer and you can >>>>>>> help them with installation >>>>>>> Show people open office and how it can make files which can be shared >>>>>>> with people using other platforms. >>>>>>> Support their choice but don't make it for them =) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>>>>>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>>>>>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Shashi >>>>>> http://connect2shashi.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Shashi >>>>> http://connect2shashi.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>>>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>>>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Shashi >> http://connect2shashi.blogspot.com >> >> Sorry. why not looking for sponsorship from government, to some extent they have since this is a social event and benefit to mankind. When we get benefits from companies, we may be limited to conditions and I think this day can not condition, because everything must be free and free 100%

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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 22, Issue 4
by Salvador Garcia Z. 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org escribió: > Send SFD-discuss mailing list submissions to > sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sfd-discuss-owner(a)sf-day.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SFD-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 2. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 3. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 4. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > 5. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Janet Hawtin) > 6. Re: SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? (Shashi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:33:39 +0530 > From: Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? > To: "Open discussions about SFD" <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> > Message-ID: > <110ee9010808020703m4ac9774fh9608ba355b68784f(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hey I really don't know what a sponsor means... I am thinking of > putting fsf as the sponsor (only sponsor) for the college fest... I > mean just tell me if i can do it and are sponsors the ones who funds > an act (always?)... > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> In the place where I am PPL reallllly don't care about software >> itself!!!! but what about the Wireless connection I did not understan >> what you meant by "two sites"... I got your fabulous work message I'll >> upload photos and give a link in the wiki after that!!!! I mean i >> don't think you are understanding what i said...Look this is my plan >> 1. first each member will choose 2 inet cafes go to the owner, >> negotiate about the Thing and put the processes that cater the info >> on each computer and people who find it interesting can copy a copy by >> clicking on ok... the copy can also be a harmless and always open >> source html instead of an exe... or a native chm which is not quite >> "open"... Got the other message the ethical hacking contest is totally >> from the college I'm just coding the lan site participants need to >> hack...and it does not have anything to do with the open letter... the >> ethical hacking also includes an initial presentation on Hacker >> culture (the tech savvy trend that started at MIT and Theories of >> richard Stallman and some cartoons of his!)... >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> you could make a wireless network between two locations and >>> share irc or video of the two sites. >>> perhaps it could be a community node long term? >>> what do people need where you are? >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> imagine that someone is doing a windows promotion >>>> or a sony cd promotion >>>> what kinds of things would you find intrusive if someone did them to you? >>>> >>>> making freedom is as much giving the user the feeling that they are in >>>> control of their own technology as anything else. >>>> start with that thought. you are making them feel empowered. >>>> what kinds of actions help them recognise that they are in control and >>>> have choice. >>>> and can be supported in those choices. >>>> some of the things which were popular with kids here were the scratch >>>> games which can run on windows but which is openly licensed >>>> and the lovely penguin racer which was very popular and we had people >>>> queuing to play. >>>> >>>> I think its great that youre passionate and thinking differently. >>>> There is so much room for fun without making things which are involuntary. >>>> >>>> Janet >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Reply fast so that i can updat the wiki and other members also... >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> By Giving them an accept/decline button don't you think we are >>>>>> preserving their freedom? It no more becomes a virus the Internet cafe >>>>>> people can be negotiated with to plant a process that caters a copy of >>>>>> the "thing" to every one who plugs in a USB key after asking if they >>>>>> want one.( I mean we can do that on software freedom day in some 20 >>>>>> internet cafe's across India) when the USB buddy goes home and puts >>>>>> the USB on he'll see the best things about software he's ever seen. >>>>>> Think about it how many people can i reach in india in an installfest? >>>>>> If you disagree I'm gonna make the logic bomb into a software that >>>>>> tells people about Free Software and tell them why they need to use >>>>>> free software... and it does not spread people nead to download the >>>>>> software to see the presentation... We'll really make it appealing... >>>>>> But I totally don't think more than 20 people are going to download it >>>>>> (I'm verry friendly and open when i say that..) and you'll have to >>>>>> agree upon that... No freedom cutdown! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanx for the fast reply... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There should be NO activity which is on a users computer without their choice. >>>>>>>> You can offer them a CD >>>>>>>> Cracking is not advocacy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry but the whole idea of free software is that it is liberty for the user. >>>>>>> It doesnt matter whether youre getting into their computer for a cause >>>>>>> which you think of as a useful thing. >>>>>>> The act of removing their choice is in direct contradiction to the >>>>>>> ethos of floss. >>>>>>> Any action which you do for SFD should be respectful of the users >>>>>>> freedom and right to choose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Set up computers which people can try. >>>>>>> Set up a game lan which people can try. >>>>>>> Have software available for people to take away. >>>>>>> Promote the kinds of things you use your free software for. >>>>>>> Have an install fest where people can bring their computer and you can >>>>>>> help them with installation >>>>>>> Show people open office and how it can make files which can be shared >>>>>>> with people using other platforms. >>>>>>> Support their choice but don't make it for them =) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>>>>>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>>>>>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Shashi >>>>>> http://connect2shashi.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Shashi >>>>> http://connect2shashi.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>>>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>>>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Shashi >> http://connect2shashi.blogspot.com >> >> > > > > por que no buscas patrocinio del gobierno, hasta cierto punto a ellos les corresponde ya que esto es un acto social y beneficio para la humanidad. Cuando obtenemos beneficios de empresas, podemos estar limitados a condiciones y creo que este día no podemos condicionarle, pues todo debe ser gratuito y libre al 100%

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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team?
by boscagarda-meetup2345d＠yahoo.com 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

No you are not giving them a choice. Too often peoplle are typing in one program and a popup takes over their screen and they've hit yes or no or cancel or ok because they were typing fast. LOOK, listen to what these folks are saying and dont you dare pull this crap. All it takes is one person to get pissed off and then claim that the free software advocates are malicious. ----- Original Message ---- From: Shashi <connect2shashi(a)gmail.com> To: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 9:28:39 AM Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-promotion virus by "uncorkers" team? By Giving them an accept/decline button don't you think we are preserving their freedom? It no more becomes a virus the Internet cafe people can be negotiated with to plant a process that caters a copy of the "thing" to every one who plugs in a USB key after asking if they want one.( I mean we can do that on software freedom day in some 20 internet cafe's across India) when the USB buddy goes home and puts the USB on he'll see the best things about software he's ever seen. Think about it how many people can i reach in india in an installfest? If you disagree I'm gonna make the logic bomb into a software that tells people about Free Software and tell them why they need to use free software... and it does not spread people nead to download the software to see the presentation... We'll really make it appealing... But I totally don't think more than 20 people are going to download it (I'm verry friendly and open when i say that..) and you'll have to agree upon that... No freedom cutdown! Thanx for the fast reply... On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Janet Hawtin <lucychili(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> There should be NO activity which is on a users computer without their choice. >> You can offer them a CD >> Cracking is not advocacy. > > Sorry but the whole idea of free software is that it is liberty for the user. > It doesnt matter whether youre getting into their computer for a cause > which you think of as a useful thing. > The act of removing their choice is in direct contradiction to the > ethos of floss. > Any action which you do for SFD should be respectful of the users > freedom and right to choose. > > Set up computers which people can try. > Set up a game lan which people can try. > Have software available for people to take away. > Promote the kinds of things you use your free software for. > Have an install fest where people can bring their computer and you can > help them with installation > Show people open office and how it can make files which can be shared > with people using other platforms. > Support their choice but don't make it for them =) > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > -- Shashi http://connect2shashi.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ SFD-discuss mailing list SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

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PromoDVD OpenSUSE 11 Party
by Peter Eisinger 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Hi, nice new: Order Promo DVD copies OpenSUSE 11.0 The openSUSE Promo DVD is a special 32-bit edition used as giveaway on fairs or as covermount on magazines. It includes GNOME and KDE4 live systems but also an installation part. Order: http://software.opensuse.org/promodvd -- Regards, Peter Eisinger http://PreguntasLinux.Org Comunidad de Software Libre Foro GNU/Linux/FLOSS/*NIX Support Installfest FLISoL SFD http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/global/preguntaslinux JRSL 2008 (20/22 de Agosto) http://jornadasregionales.org SFD 2008 (20 de Septiembre) http://softwarefreedomday.org FLISOL 2009 (25 de Abril) http://flisol.net

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