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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Julian H. Stacey

LM wrote: > On Sun, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here > > http://www.berklix.org/meet/ > > Lot of links. More welcome. > > Here are the FSF links to remote communications: > https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-softwar… Thanks, added to http://www.berklix.org/meet/#also > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication Got that one already thanks on http://www.berklix.org/meet/ > My links on Internet communications and distance learning: > https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/14124.html Thanks, added to http://www.berklix.org/meet/#also > It would be nice to see the event list for 2020 available and a > mention of what events are online so people in other areas could join > in on those events as well. My biggest problem this year is that I > have another engagement on the same day and it can't be moved. I'm > wondering if I could celebrate SFD on another date in September or if > I'll just have to wait until next year. A minority of places globaly use different dates for local reasons, eg: { Munich Germany 2010, used the standard global SFD date, & collided with the opening day of http://Oktoberfest.de, O'fest in 2010 sucked in 6.4m visitors over 2 weeks, congesting transport. Saturday 18th September 2010 http://www.berklix.org/sfd/2010.html http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Europe/Germany/Muenchen In Munich 2011 we moved our SFD to 22nd October 2011 to not clash with Oktoberfest http://www.berklix.org/sfd/ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest#Termine/%C3%96ffnungszeiten O fest 2010 18. Sep. bis 4. Okt. O fest 2011 17. Sep. bis 3. Okt. } Cheers -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/ Crash Brexit Dec. 2020 aids speculators & Russia. http://berklix.uk/brexit/ Russia report, many formats: http://www.berklix.org/russia/

Aug. 11, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

On 8/10/20 4:48 PM, LM wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > >> Other possibilities: >> https://aws.amazon.com/chime or >> https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp >> https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp >> https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn >> https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ >> https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ >> https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ >> https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ >> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ > > Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free > Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully > available? Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software > advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't > approved by the FSF. Thanks. CDNs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network) are mostly infrastructure as a service. One can use open source software to record and send video and sound, but one typically needs to ensure adequate infrastructure to be able to stream to many viewers. Many CDNs do accelerate open source libraries for websites, see for example: https://www.keycdn.com/open-source-cdn An open source transport library is SRT: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md which is integrated into OBS https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol Open source server: https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server If not using a CDN, and expecting many viewers, it would be helpful to have a network of servers > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by LM

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > Other possibilities: > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully available? Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't approved by the FSF. Thanks.

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

On 8/10/20 1:51 PM, LM wrote: > On Sun, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here >> http://www.berklix.org/meet/ >> Lot of links. More welcome. > > Here are the FSF links to remote communications: > https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-softwar… > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication > My links on Internet communications and distance learning: > https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/14124.html > > It would be nice to see the event list for 2020 available and a > mention of what events are online so people in other areas could join > in on those events as well. My biggest problem this year is that I > have another engagement on the same day and it can't be moved. I'm > wondering if I could celebrate SFD on another date in September or if > I'll just have to wait until next year. > > Other possibilities: https://aws.amazon.com/chime or https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by LM

On Sun, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here > http://www.berklix.org/meet/ > Lot of links. More welcome. Here are the FSF links to remote communications: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-softwar… https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication My links on Internet communications and distance learning: https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/14124.html It would be nice to see the event list for 2020 available and a mention of what events are online so people in other areas could join in on those events as well. My biggest problem this year is that I have another engagement on the same day and it can't be moved. I'm wondering if I could celebrate SFD on another date in September or if I'll just have to wait until next year.

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

On 8/10/20 3:50 AM, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Julian, > > Am 10.08.20 um 02:18 schrieb Julian H. Stacey: >> Ref http://mail.sf-day.org/pipermail/sfd-discuss/2020-August/003266.html >> >> PS A friend (BCC'd) researched BigBlueButton & others for an expo. >> rather than for meetings, & thought BigBlue might be better than Jitsi >> for that, but she ran out of time, >> If she has notes I could link to or include them at eg. >> http://www.berklix.org/meet/#jitsi >> http://www.berklix.org/meet/#bigbluebutton > > One of the Inkscape board members who works at a university in Paris > told us they're using it for lectures. > > When someone in our chat asked him about what would be required for up > to 200 (and a temporary maximum of 350) persons, this is what he replied: > > "then I would recommend ≥1GB/s bw , 8 cores, 32G RAM are enough - > disable webcams except for *one* speaker at most, screenshare strongly > discouraged, disable chat when >200people, never enable the > "collaborative drawing over slides" > > you would probably not use up more than 16G ram > but it is better on the safe side > rule of thumb is that bandwith will be limiting, and bandwith usage is > n_attendees×(n_webcams+4×screenshare)×1MB/s if you go for correct quality" > > For occasional meetups, Inkscape project members often use Jitsi, and > it's mostly fine for small numbers of people. With the free website, it > doesn't require any setup for trying it out. > Last time I used it, it only worked reliably in Chrome, though, and > people often had difficulties with the audio. Development may have > advanced, I've not been in a Jitsi meeting for a couple months. > > Hope this helps. > Maren > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > A number of cloud providers also offer streaming solutions which one can build on. Would be happy to help set something up if of interest and can lookup details of possible options.

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Julian H. Stacey

> Hope this helps. Thanks Maren! Noted to http://www.berklix.org/meet/#bigbluebutton Cheers -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/ Crash Brexit Dec. 2020 aids speculators & Russia. http://berklix.uk/brexit/ Russia report, many formats: http://www.berklix.org/russia/

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Maren Hachmann

Hi Julian, Am 10.08.20 um 02:18 schrieb Julian H. Stacey: > Ref http://mail.sf-day.org/pipermail/sfd-discuss/2020-August/003266.html > > PS A friend (BCC'd) researched BigBlueButton & others for an expo. > rather than for meetings, & thought BigBlue might be better than Jitsi > for that, but she ran out of time, > If she has notes I could link to or include them at eg. > http://www.berklix.org/meet/#jitsi > http://www.berklix.org/meet/#bigbluebutton One of the Inkscape board members who works at a university in Paris told us they're using it for lectures. When someone in our chat asked him about what would be required for up to 200 (and a temporary maximum of 350) persons, this is what he replied: "then I would recommend ≥1GB/s bw , 8 cores, 32G RAM are enough - disable webcams except for *one* speaker at most, screenshare strongly discouraged, disable chat when >200people, never enable the "collaborative drawing over slides" you would probably not use up more than 16G ram but it is better on the safe side rule of thumb is that bandwith will be limiting, and bandwith usage is n_attendees×(n_webcams+4×screenshare)×1MB/s if you go for correct quality" For occasional meetups, Inkscape project members often use Jitsi, and it's mostly fine for small numbers of people. With the free website, it doesn't require any setup for trying it out. Last time I used it, it only worked reliably in Chrome, though, and people often had difficulties with the audio. Development may have advanced, I've not been in a Jitsi meeting for a couple months. Hope this helps. Maren

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Julian H. Stacey

Ref http://mail.sf-day.org/pipermail/sfd-discuss/2020-August/003266.html Rik Tindall wrote: > Please enable the SFD framework for those that can, as usual, hold > events. Good move. > i.e. in New Zealand and some Australian states. Ready to ramp up > activity. Localities vary by geography & time (eg part of city of Leicester UK, & Melbourne Australia & parts of USA all tightened on Corona after loosening) Only locals can decide. Good luck. Maren Hachmann <maren(a)goos-habermann.de> > the rest will meet up via > BigBlueButton, and we're also planning for a YouTube stream I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here http://www.berklix.org/meet/ Lot of links. More welcome. But I wrote it more with a view to smallish interactive meetings than large broadcast conferences. PS A friend (BCC'd) researched BigBlueButton & others for an expo. rather than for meetings, & thought BigBlue might be better than Jitsi for that, but she ran out of time, If she has notes I could link to or include them at eg. http://www.berklix.org/meet/#jitsi http://www.berklix.org/meet/#bigbluebutton Cheers -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/ Crash Brexit Dec. 2020 aids speculators & Russia. http://berklix.uk/brexit/ Russia report, many formats: http://www.berklix.org/russia/

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Maren Hachmann

Hi everyone, in Kiel, we're planning for an online event (combined with Kielux). Some of our speakers will join us in person, the rest will meet up via BigBlueButton, and we're also planning for a YouTube stream. The largest Linux conferences that we have in Germany have been dropped without replacement this year, so we hope to fill in the gap a bit, as good as we can. We'll try to start SFD as usual, too, by meeting up for breakfast. (If you want to be a speaker, you're invited to join us :) ) Maren (Kielux-Co-Coordinator) https://kielux.de Am 10.08.20 um 00:39 schrieb Rik Tindall: > Hi Fred and all, > > Please enable the SFD framework for those that can, as usual, hold events. > > i.e. in New Zealand and some Australian states. Ready to ramp up activity. > > Thanks and regards > > Rik Tindall > > pp SFD Team Christchurch > http://www.infohelp.co.nz/sfd20.html > https://www.facebook.com/TeamChristchurchSFD/ > > On 2020-08-10 06:57, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>> If we're going to the "the usual thing", then we could also make it >>> official, update the website, >>> open the registration pages and so on, and possibly be explicit that >>> these events can either >>> be offline or online. >> >> Some (many?) countries it's illegal &/or too dangerous to do the >> Usual, eg Munich Germany cancelled many events including: >> http://oktoberfest.de/en & http://vcfe.org/E/ >> Even the voracious Olympics were forced to skip. >> >> https://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/ lists 2019 with 59 events. >> The only global SFD "usual" could be a usual common date, with I guess >> many or mostly virtuals, & a few physicals with lower attendance. >> >> In Britain & Germany (& I assume most of North hemisphere), people >> are exploding out of Corona lock down & work from home buildings, >> & lack of fly away holidays, to local fresh air at beaches, lakes, >> mountains, parks, to cram a summer's outings (& traffic jams & >> people congestion) in to just 2 remaining months of August & September. >> >> Trying to tempt people inside buildungs to computer lectures, stands, >> mains supplied equipment, projectors & slide shows etc, would be >> futile IMO, unless a month before there was guaranteed rain with a month >> to advertise & recruit exhibitors & attenders. >> Maybe next century super computers might predict a month ahead ;-) >> >> Till then, though I was one of the main organisers of SFD >> for Munich in 2010 & 2011 http://www.berklix.org/sfd/ >> & have wondered if I should again some time, I definately won't in 2020, >> it's off to the park, till it rains. >> >> Cheers > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

Aug. 9, 2020