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Re: [SFD-discuss] Document Freedom Day 2021

by Mostafa Ahangarha

On 2/4/21 4:30 PM, sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org wrote: > Send SFD-discuss mailing list submissions to > sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sfd-discuss-owner(a)sf-day.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SFD-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Document Freedom Day 2021 (Naudy Villarroel Urquiola) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 15:34:32 -0400 > From: Naudy Villarroel Urquiola <naviurq(a)gmail.com> > To: "Discussions about planning for SFD (spanish)" > <planning-es(a)sf-day.org>, sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > Subject: [SFD-discuss] Document Freedom Day 2021 > Message-ID: > <CACCs6RQ7hsEmtbPqaiem6xT_-hh5j+Do3XdE2ZxkxYZ-5pWDJg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > *ES* > > Hola a todos, me estoy fijando que la pagina > https://www.documentfreedom.org/ no ha sido actualizada desde el 2018, > desconozco los motivos y las razones por que est? todo paralizado , pero > seria bueno armar nuevamente un grupo de trabajo para reactivar el "Dia de > Documento Libre" . > Ser?a interesante escuchar sugerencias y recomendaciones para activar > nuevamente Document Freedom Day. > > Saludos Cordiales > > EN > > Hello everyone, I am noticing that the page https://www.documentfreedom.org/ > has not been updated since 2018, I do not know the reasons that it is > paralyzed, but it would be good to put together a working group again to > reactivate the "Day of Free Document ". It would be interesting to hear > suggestions and recommendations to activate Document Freedom Day again. > I agree with you on reviving documentfreedom.org. If it has reached to its goal, then it should be informed to the public. Otherwise, we should revive it. I think we need to educate people and governments to move towards Open Document Formats. We had small program two years ago in Iran. But we were the only one who did it. At least there was no post on social media about any group having any program on that day. We need a better way of communication. It is hard for me to track topics on mailing list.

Feb. 4, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] [Planning-es] Document Freedom Day 2021

by Naudy Villarroel Urquiola

Hola Bazza , si esperemos a ver si más personas se interesan en reactivar de nuevo Document Freedom Day, tengo entendido que los encargado de LO también querían activarlo pero no se que paso alli . Saludos El mié, 3 de feb. de 2021 a la(s) 18:51, bazza (bazza(a)riseup.net) escribió: > El 3/2/21 a las 16:34, Naudy Villarroel Urquiola escribió: > > *ES* > > Hola a todos, me estoy fijando que la pagina > https://www.documentfreedom.org/ no ha sido actualizada desde el 2018, > desconozco los motivos y las razones por que está todo paralizado , pero > seria bueno armar nuevamente un grupo de trabajo para reactivar el "Dia de > Documento Libre" . > Sería interesante escuchar sugerencias y recomendaciones para activar > nuevamente Document Freedom Day. > > Saludos Cordiales > > EN > > Hello everyone, I am noticing that the page > https://www.documentfreedom.org/ has not been updated since 2018, I do > not know the reasons that it is paralyzed, but it would be good to put > together a working group again to reactivate the "Day of Free Document ". > It would be interesting to hear suggestions and recommendations to activate > Document Freedom Day again. > > -- > ========================== > > *Naudy Villarroel Urquiola * > > _______________________________________________ > Planning-es mailing listPlanning-es@sf-day.orghttp://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/planning-es > > Es buena idea, me sumo > Bazza > -- > maquinaslibres.tk > 4232.cf > -- ========================== *Naudy Villarroel Urquiola*

Feb. 4, 2021

Document Freedom Day 2021

by Naudy Villarroel Urquiola

*ES* Hola a todos, me estoy fijando que la pagina https://www.documentfreedom.org/ no ha sido actualizada desde el 2018, desconozco los motivos y las razones por que está todo paralizado , pero seria bueno armar nuevamente un grupo de trabajo para reactivar el "Dia de Documento Libre" . Sería interesante escuchar sugerencias y recomendaciones para activar nuevamente Document Freedom Day. Saludos Cordiales EN Hello everyone, I am noticing that the page https://www.documentfreedom.org/ has not been updated since 2018, I do not know the reasons that it is paralyzed, but it would be good to put together a working group again to reactivate the "Day of Free Document ". It would be interesting to hear suggestions and recommendations to activate Document Freedom Day again. -- ========================== *Naudy Villarroel Urquiola *

Feb. 3, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 120, Issue 2

by Mostafa Ahangarha

On 2/2/21 4:30 PM, sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org wrote: > Send SFD-discuss mailing list submissions to > sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sfd-discuss-owner(a)sf-day.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SFD-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021 (Mostafa Ahangarha) > 2. Re: Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021 > (Frederic Muller - DFF) > 3. Re: Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021 (Ruwan Ranganath) > 4. Re: Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021 > (Frederic Muller - DFF) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 19:44:47 +0430 > From: Mostafa Ahangarha <ahangarha(a)riseup.net> > To: sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021 > Message-ID: <f5798b5a-3006-7b87-634b-35f8c59ec984(a)riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks for replies. > > Let's keep the discussion on how to organize SFD2021 aside for now. > First we need to figure out who are on board. How the official accounts > and channels like website are handled. Then, we can plan for this year > event. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 23:05:16 +0700 > From: Frederic Muller - DFF <fred(a)digitalfreedomfoundation.org> > To: sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021 > Message-ID: > <26a99259-9831-b5ae-2ed6-695aab71d845(a)digitalfreedomfoundation.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hey! > > Nice message and overall I agree. Though I remember last year, when we > offered you to take care of the social media account suddenly you went > very quiet... > > DFF definitely wants to promoted Free Software. Now hundred of thousands > of people are dying due to a pandemic and we have problems telling > people to meet up under the current circumstances. And while we > understands different countries have managed the issue differently we > just cannot give any "let's meet" recommendation. > > Now if you have a real plan on how to manage this whole situation, > please let us know because REALLY we would be very happy to have a > message to give regardless of where people live. > > Thank you. > > Fred > > On 2/1/21 10:14 PM, Mostafa Ahangarha wrote: >> Thanks for replies. >> >> Let's keep the discussion on how to organize SFD2021 aside for now. >> First we need to figure out who are on board. How the official accounts >> and channels like website are handled. Then, we can plan for this year >> event. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 13:58:43 +0530 > From: Ruwan Ranganath <ruwanranganathz(a)gmail.com> > To: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> > Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021 > Message-ID: > <CAD5GTewRv1V6SQ2QD3aZWjQZ9N2gLAc-YgMDk1+0uEMfvyBXBA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > FOSS.lk was held fine SFD events last couple of years with Mozilla.lk and > hope to do as a webinar this year as well. > > >From the DFF perspective what sort of details should be put into the > planning phase ? if you can share a previous year planning document to > refer , we might be able to start something for this year as well with > considering current pandemic situation . > > > Thank you. > Ruwan. > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 9:36 PM Frederic Muller - DFF < > fred(a)digitalfreedomfoundation.org> wrote: > >> Hey! >> >> Nice message and overall I agree. Though I remember last year, when we >> offered you to take care of the social media account suddenly you went >> very quiet... >> >> DFF definitely wants to promoted Free Software. Now hundred of thousands >> of people are dying due to a pandemic and we have problems telling >> people to meet up under the current circumstances. And while we >> understands different countries have managed the issue differently we >> just cannot give any "let's meet" recommendation. >> >> Now if you have a real plan on how to manage this whole situation, >> please let us know because REALLY we would be very happy to have a >> message to give regardless of where people live. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Fred >> >> On 2/1/21 10:14 PM, Mostafa Ahangarha wrote: >>> Thanks for replies. >>> >>> Let's keep the discussion on how to organize SFD2021 aside for now. >>> First we need to figure out who are on board. How the official accounts >>> and channels like website are handled. Then, we can plan for this year >>> event. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> > I am hoping this email is reaching to you properly. First I am sorry If I am using mailing list in a bad way. I am not used to it. Please share some good tutorial on this issue. I need to learn it properly. :D Now lets go on topic. > I remember last year, when we offered you to take care of the social media account suddenly you went very quiet... I am sorry for that. I don't remember it now. But even now, I would refuse for that face our issue is not who to handle social media. I think we need to discuss why SFD and how. We need to make some policy or plan or guideline. Then comes social media, website, etc. One friend mentioned Open Source. I strongly believe SFD is the day we need to talk about Software Freedom. This is kind of prohibited concept to be discussed in Open Source world. Let's keep out focus on Software Freedom and inform people about the importance of it. Rest would be handled in one way or another. Regarding Covid, I think we had this discussion last year as well. Sure I am not advocating to have physical gathering. That is up to people. Last year, we had a small online gathering in Iran and I myself managed to have a physical gathering in Kabul, Afghanistan (which was safe at that time to do so). I know some other people also had online gathering. Sure online meeting cannot be the same as physical one, but it has it own pros and cons. So Lets embrace it and see how we can make best use of it. I don't suggest we tell people what to do. SFD should be community based program. At best, we can help with propagation, networking and (perhaps most important) provide some suggestions on how to have SFD 2021. SFD website has some kind of such material on it already, but those suggestions are not helpful now. We need to make some new ones.This is what we need to discuss. I would suggest having some attempt to talk to some of FLOSS organizations to provide some resources (like BBB) for SFD related programs (during september). That can be provided to those who already registered their program on SFD website so we can verify that they are going to hold SFD related programs. I am sure we can manage that. Even with limitted resources, we can make some schedule for registered programs so that those resources can be distributed among all without putting pressure on server. These are my rough ideas. And finally, we need to have some way to update site. website is outdated. it is still talking about SFD 2020! and one question: What about DFD and HFD 2021? Are there same people (not) working on those? ;) Any possibility to work on those as well? Regards, Mostafa Ahagnarha

Feb. 3, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021

by LM

I'm planning to do SFD 2021 online again this year. Last year I did it in conjunction with LibreMiami using Jitsi. We were the only ones who showed, but it was a lot of fun. I also had to run the event the week before the usual SFD date, so that and unclear communication of timezone differences may have prevented some people from attending. I advertised SFD on social media a lot last year. I shared the wiki link so people could find events they were interested in. I know the Computer Science Teachers Association was talking about Software Freedom Day after I brought up the subject. Don't know if any of them did private events for their students or attended some of the online world events. Was curious, for those who did something online last year, how was the turn out? Did any guests have trouble connecting to the event because they weren't sure when or where or for other reasons? I think doing things online for areas where the logistics of an in person gathering are an issue is a great idea. I also think doing it online allows more people from different areas to attend. Some conventions that moved online last year and are going back to doing it in person will continue to do a hybrid approach to reach people who can't travel to attend the event. If any of the various groups around the world want to coordinate so that people can go from one event in one timezone to another afterwards in another timezone, I think that would be a really nice idea. Recently attended a series of events on climate change online. They were all put on by different people and you signed up for each event. However, one web site organized it all and listed all the events with their descriptions so you could sign up for the ones you were interested in. It was really well done. It was also nice to be able to attend events hosted in other countries and find out about how things are there. Everyone having a shared goal was enough to bring the whole thing together. Would really like to see SFD do something similar. They wouldn't be responsible for the events, just for being a central place where people could learn about the events being hosted by various groups around the world and how to attend them. Sincerely, Laura

Feb. 2, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021

by Frederic Muller - DFF

On 2/2/21 3:28 PM, Ruwan Ranganath wrote: > From the DFF perspective what sort of details should be put into the > planning phase ? if you can share a previous year planning document to > refer , we might be able to start something for this year as well with > considering current pandemic situation . Previous years were very different in the sense that SFD was a face-to-face event led by communities around the world in their own areas. I think the community-led direction is still the right one, but face-to-face not much. We do not have the infrastructure or experience to do online events, nor should we be hosting an event for everyone online. With that in mind the question is how do we do SFD 2021(1) (as it seems most likely we'll be in the same situation as 2020) and how do we communicate about it(2)? 2 will be easier once 1 is clear. 1 options are: a. Face-to-face like before when it makes sense (does it?) b. Online for the rest of the teams \- How (which software, which organization type)? \- How do we present it on the website since anyone can now attend any "place" event? \- Does a location map still make sense versus a language and/or time-zone based representation? c. A mix of online and face-to-face: probably we can define that as in a 2nd phase maybe. Or maybe it's an extension of "online only" SFD events where organizers can decide that meeting face to face is allowed up to x number of people (based on country/city/size of the venue) but that the event is mainly broadcasted. So those are our thoughts at the moment. Please feel free to compliment or extend. Thank you. Fred

Feb. 2, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021

by Ruwan Ranganath

FOSS.lk was held fine SFD events last couple of years with Mozilla.lk and hope to do as a webinar this year as well. >From the DFF perspective what sort of details should be put into the planning phase ? if you can share a previous year planning document to refer , we might be able to start something for this year as well with considering current pandemic situation . Thank you. Ruwan. On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 9:36 PM Frederic Muller - DFF < fred(a)digitalfreedomfoundation.org> wrote: > Hey! > > Nice message and overall I agree. Though I remember last year, when we > offered you to take care of the social media account suddenly you went > very quiet... > > DFF definitely wants to promoted Free Software. Now hundred of thousands > of people are dying due to a pandemic and we have problems telling > people to meet up under the current circumstances. And while we > understands different countries have managed the issue differently we > just cannot give any "let's meet" recommendation. > > Now if you have a real plan on how to manage this whole situation, > please let us know because REALLY we would be very happy to have a > message to give regardless of where people live. > > Thank you. > > Fred > > On 2/1/21 10:14 PM, Mostafa Ahangarha wrote: > > Thanks for replies. > > > > Let's keep the discussion on how to organize SFD2021 aside for now. > > First we need to figure out who are on board. How the official accounts > > and channels like website are handled. Then, we can plan for this year > > event. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SFD-discuss mailing list > > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > -- Ruwan Ranganath

Feb. 2, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021

by Frederic Muller - DFF

Hey! Nice message and overall I agree. Though I remember last year, when we offered you to take care of the social media account suddenly you went very quiet... DFF definitely wants to promoted Free Software. Now hundred of thousands of people are dying due to a pandemic and we have problems telling people to meet up under the current circumstances. And while we understands different countries have managed the issue differently we just cannot give any "let's meet" recommendation. Now if you have a real plan on how to manage this whole situation, please let us know because REALLY we would be very happy to have a message to give regardless of where people live. Thank you. Fred On 2/1/21 10:14 PM, Mostafa Ahangarha wrote: > Thanks for replies. > > Let's keep the discussion on how to organize SFD2021 aside for now. > First we need to figure out who are on board. How the official accounts > and channels like website are handled. Then, we can plan for this year > event. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

Feb. 1, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021

by Mostafa Ahangarha

Thanks for replies. Let's keep the discussion on how to organize SFD2021 aside for now. First we need to figure out who are on board. How the official accounts and channels like website are handled. Then, we can plan for this year event.

Feb. 1, 2021

Re: [SFD-discuss] Coordination on how to handle SFD 2021

by Georg Kevin Paquet

Hey guys! Count me in on this, from the City of Davao - Philippines. With Best Regards, *Georg Kevin Paquet* This email may contain privileged information dedicated to the recipient only. Shall you receive this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email immediately. On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:11 PM Jurgen Gaeremyn <jurgen(a)gaeremyn.be> wrote: > Hi Mostafa, > > I'm with you here. Hackerpsace Brussels will organize SFD again too this > year. Let's make it an open source party to never forget! (let's not talk > about the viral aspect of the GPL, it might not be appropriate right now). > > To the core team behind the SFD website: > > - how can we start helping already now? > - what are the essential processes that we would need to work on > already? > > Best to all, > and thanks Mostafa for triggering this! > Jurgen > > > On 1/02/2021 05:28, Mostafa Ahangarha wrote: > > Hi guys > > Last year, there was no proper communication and coordination on how to > celebrate SFD. Website didn't update in time. Social media accounts were > not active and many other things. > > One part of the reason was that our friends in softwarefreedomday.org > were busy with other things which is fully understandable. But now, we have > plenty of time till SFD 2021. Let's discuss how we can improve. Software > Freedom Day deserves more attention. > > Bests, > Mostafa Ahangarha > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Feb. 1, 2021