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Re: [SFD-discuss] Web conferencing service (was: SFD 2020)

by Visvanath Ratnaweera

Hi all I didn't realize that you people are looking for a web conferencing service - the subject line just said "SFD 2020). Here is an insider tipp. CH Open [1], a long standing established group pro FOSS has recently launched a web conferencing server [2], free as freedom and free as free lunch. The software platform is BigBlueButton (BBB) [3]. Anybody can register and ask for a "video room". The coordinator of each "stall" or "track" or whatever in SFD, get such a room, and publish them on your homepage. Advised to publish the real link the last minute and keep an assistant monitoring the happenings to avoid "Zoom bombs". BTW, BBB is the most popular web conferencing program in the Moodle landscape. It just needs a modern browser, Firefox, Chrome or Edge. The computer needs to be fairly new, the HTML5 interface requires lot of power. And BBB is feature-rich. Usual text chat, etc. but also screen sharing and group white board! Do intensive trial runs as early as possible. If you worry about capacity - I know, it is a very powerful server and a big group broken in to many rooms need much less power than all in one room, provided all stream their video - you can write to CH Open (send me a copy). [1] https://www.ch-open.ch [2] https://bbb.ch-open.ch/b [3] https://bigbluebutton.org/ Have fun! I'll make it a point to read this thread - not all the other "SFD 2020" threads! Visvanath

Aug. 25, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদ ার

Dear Benson আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you মঙ্গল, ২৫ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৪:৩৩ PM টায় এ Benson Muite < benson_muite(a)emailplus.org> লিখেছেন: > > See here you got into an "Open Source" Software which does not ensure > > "Users Freedom" as we mean "Free", but it is "For Free" as "Price Zero" > > with the only "Freedom 1 of a Free Software". :) > These have licenses that give system administrator freedom. When the > software is deployed on a remote server, user is free to accept or > reject whatever choices the system administrator decides :) The licenses > are: > https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/LICENSE > https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server/blob/master/LICENSE Brother, By the word "User" me and the license mean All who uses this software anyway. So the Server Admin or System Administrator is also an "User". And only "Freedom 1 of a Free Software" applied here. Read the license you mentioned here and I hope you will get the point clearly as I have told. :) > > Surely bandwidth is an issue to setup or run your own video streaming > > service. You may use jitsi on their server and may ask them for greater > > audience support. Else you may raise some fund and setup and run > > scalable server. > I think it may be worth running a small crowd funding campaign for this. > Might you be willing to help? > Sure. Start the campaign. I am willing to help after I am assured about your service model running jisti meet on your own server. -- রিং/ring মহাসচিব/General Secretary এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh

Aug. 25, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

Dear রিং/ring আলাইকুম আসসালামু / And also upon you On 8/24/20 10:16 AM, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote: > Dear Benson > আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you > > রবি, ১৬ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ১২:২৬ PM টায় এ Benson Muite > <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org <mailto:benson_muite@emailplus.org>> লিখেছেন: > > What are your thoughts on the open source transport library SRT: > https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md > which is integrated into OBS > > https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol > It has an open source server: > https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server > > > See here you got into an "Open Source" Software which does not ensure > "Users Freedom" as we mean "Free", but it is "For Free" as "Price Zero" > with the only "Freedom 1 of a Free Software". :) These have licenses that give system administrator freedom. When the software is deployed on a remote server, user is free to accept or reject whatever choices the system administrator decides :) The licenses are: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server/blob/master/LICENSE > > If not using an existing CDN service and expecting many viewers, it > would be helpful to have a network of servers. I do not know about > typical bandwidth in Bangladesh, but standard videobridge setup > (https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-videobridge) may be challenging to use > with many participants since all streams are relayed. > > > Surely bandwidth is an issue to setup or run your own video streaming > service. You may use jitsi on their server and may ask them for greater > audience support. Else you may raise some fund and setup and run > scalable server. I think it may be worth running a small crowd funding campaign for this. Might you be willing to help? > > Is there any open source CDN software approved by FSF? Found the > following for building own CDNs, using Nginx (http://nginx.org/) or > Apache Traffic Server (http://trafficserver.apache.org/) : > https://info.varnish-software.com/blog/build-your-cdn-in-5-steps > https://www.nginx.com/blog/learn-to-stop-worrying-build-cdn/ > > > You may use these at this moment to serve your purpose. > Good! > https://www.comcasttechnologysolutions.com/blog/open-minds-open-source-open… > > > This one is bad for user freedom. > > With regards. > -- > রিং/ring > > মহাসচিব/General Secretary This is a powerful position, see for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Secretary_of_the_Communist_Party_of_t… > এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh > > মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian > > সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Aug. 25, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] Suggestions on how to conduct SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

Tawishi, Indico (https://getindico.io) seems well supported itself is open source. The current teleconferencing solution is Vidyo (https://vidyo.com) which does not seem to be open source, though it seems others can be integrated. Benson On 8/24/20 5:20 PM, Tawishi Sharma wrote: > I recently attended few events on Hopin and they were really good. But > hopin is not an Open source platform. > > Found this article while looking for os replacement for Hopin. Hope it > helps. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/gldyc2/whats_an_alternative_to… > > ~Tawishi > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Aug. 25, 2020

Suggestions on how to conduct SFD 2020

by Tawishi Sharma

I recently attended few events on Hopin and they were really good. But hopin is not an Open source platform. Found this article while looking for os replacement for Hopin. Hope it helps. https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/gldyc2/whats_an_alternative_to… ~Tawishi

Aug. 24, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদ ার

Dear Benson আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you রবি, ১৬ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ১২:২৬ PM টায় এ Benson Muite < benson_muite(a)emailplus.org> লিখেছেন: > What are your thoughts on the open source transport library SRT: > https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md > which is integrated into OBS > https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol > It has an open source server: > https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server See here you got into an "Open Source" Software which does not ensure "Users Freedom" as we mean "Free", but it is "For Free" as "Price Zero" with the only "Freedom 1 of a Free Software". :) > If not using an existing CDN service and expecting many viewers, it > would be helpful to have a network of servers. I do not know about > typical bandwidth in Bangladesh, but standard videobridge setup > (https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-videobridge) may be challenging to use > with many participants since all streams are relayed. > Surely bandwidth is an issue to setup or run your own video streaming service. You may use jitsi on their server and may ask them for greater audience support. Else you may raise some fund and setup and run scalable server. > Is there any open source CDN software approved by FSF? Found the > following for building own CDNs, using Nginx (http://nginx.org/) or > Apache Traffic Server (http://trafficserver.apache.org/) : > https://info.varnish-software.com/blog/build-your-cdn-in-5-steps > https://www.nginx.com/blog/learn-to-stop-worrying-build-cdn/ You may use these at this moment to serve your purpose. > > https://www.comcasttechnologysolutions.com/blog/open-minds-open-source-open… > This one is bad for user freedom. With regards. -- রিং/ring মহাসচিব/General Secretary এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh

Aug. 24, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by LM

On Thu, Frederic Muller wrote: > therefore the map. Not sure how to display "online events" on a map > though. Suggestion very welcome! My preference would be to put the location of the group running the online event on the map. That way, you can connect with people in your area and possibly meet some time in the future when things are safer. It would be great if anyone doing a virtual online event mentioned that people from other areas of the world are welcome. If someone does not have an event in their area, they could check out one of those virtual events. > To LM: the date is really flexible as it is impossible to find a date > which will work every year in every country. So it's really what works > best in your area. Just make sure the date of your liking is specified > on all your communication, wiki, etc... Thank you. Good to know. In that case, I'll definitely try to do something virtually this year even if it's still a small core turn out like last year. I've been contacting tech groups in my area and so far, haven't found anyone interested in attending or getting involved. I've also been mentioning it on some social media sites and tech forums to see if we can get more new groups involved with Software Freedom Day.

Aug. 20, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Frederic Muller - DFF

Dear all, Apologies for the silent, we have somewhat been uncomfortable with the situation and really didn't want to promote meeting up in places where it's a big NO. Thank you Marco for starting the discussion again: we will no have a global online event and will continue as we have done in the past. The wiki has been updated as some teams have started to create pages (some non-English pages need updates), the countdown will be starting soon (as in less than a day we hope) so will the registration and therefore the map. Not sure how to display "online events" on a map though. Suggestion very welcome! Thank you everyone for stepping in, really! To LM: the date is really flexible as it is impossible to find a date which will work every year in every country. So it's really what works best in your area. Just make sure the date of your liking is specified on all your communication, wiki, etc... Any more questions, comments, please do not hesitate. Thank you. Fred On 8/10/20 5:39 AM, Rik Tindall wrote: > Hi Fred and all, > > Please enable the SFD framework for those that can, as usual, hold events. > > i.e. in New Zealand and some Australian states. Ready to ramp up activity. > > Thanks and regards > > Rik Tindall

Aug. 20, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Jurgen Gaeremyn

Dear all, I understand the importance of FOSS, and the necessity to use it ourselves. Yet, if I have to choose between the event not happening (because stranding on nobody willing/able) to provide the needed expertise and bandwith or the event happening on some closed source streaming server... I will choose the latter everyday of the week. So unless there is someone standing up and offering to supply for this open source streaming service, I will applaud any single person doing whatever initiative it is. Jurgen, Just some FOSS-minded dude. On 16/08/2020 07:31, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote: > Dear Sir > > সোম, ১০ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৭:৪৯ PM টায় এ LM <lmemsm(a)gmail.com > <mailto:lmemsm@gmail.com>> লিখেছেন: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > > > Other possibilities: > > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ > > > None of the above list are a Free/Libre Software. > > Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free > Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully > available? > > > Source code is the Freedom No.1 You should have in a Libre/Free > Software. But Freedom 0, 2 and 3 are essential in a Software to be a > Libre software. > > Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software > advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't > approved by the FSF. Thanks. > > > For Live video streaming and video conference you may use jitsi meet > at https://meet.jit.si or you may download the source and host on your > own server or vps. :) > > with regards. > -- > রিং/ring > > মহাসচিব/General Secretary > এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh > > মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian > > সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

Aug. 16, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you On 8/16/20 8:31 AM, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote: > Dear Sir > > সোম, ১০ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৭:৪৯ PM টায় এ LM <lmemsm(a)gmail.com > <mailto:lmemsm@gmail.com>> লিখেছেন: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > > > Other possibilities: > > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ > > > None of the above list are a Free/Libre Software. > > Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free > Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully > available? > > > Source code is the Freedom No.1 You should have in a Libre/Free > Software. But Freedom 0, 2 and 3 are essential in a Software to be a > Libre software. > > Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software > advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't > approved by the FSF. Thanks. > > > For Live video streaming and video conference you may use jitsi meet at > https://meet.jit.si or you may download the source and host on your own > server or vps. :) What are your thoughts on the open source transport library SRT: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md which is integrated into OBS https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol It has an open source server: https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server If not using an existing CDN service and expecting many viewers, it would be helpful to have a network of servers. I do not know about typical bandwidth in Bangladesh, but standard videobridge setup (https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-videobridge) may be challenging to use with many participants since all streams are relayed. Is there any open source CDN software approved by FSF? Found the following for building own CDNs, using Nginx (http://nginx.org/) or Apache Traffic Server (http://trafficserver.apache.org/) : https://info.varnish-software.com/blog/build-your-cdn-in-5-steps https://www.nginx.com/blog/learn-to-stop-worrying-build-cdn/ https://www.comcasttechnologysolutions.com/blog/open-minds-open-source-open… > > with regards. > -- > রিং/ring > > মহাসচিব/General Secretary > এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh > > মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian > > সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Aug. 16, 2020