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Re: [SFD-discuss] Aproximadamente cuanto demora la entrega de Estos Productos a las Ciudades de America

by Alexandro Colorado

Depende de la logistica y aduanas, creo que tomo 1 semana a Mexico. Tenemos una lista en español si quieres contactarte con hispanos. "Software Freedom Day ES" <planning-es(a)sf-day.org>, Acabamos de abrir un canal en Freenode #sfd-es para juntas nocturnas Depends on the logistics and customs, I think it took 1 week to Mexico. We have a list in spanish if you want to get in touch. We just open a channel on Freenode for nightly meetups #sfd-es 2011/8/8 Jhan Carlo Perez <jhancarloperez(a)hotmail.com> > Hello I am located in the city of Yumbo - Colombia, approximately how > long it takes to getproducts pra SFD. > > thanks > > > *Cordialmente; > * > *Jhan Carlo Peréz Ramiréz > Telefono: +57 (2) 6516600** ext. 2245 > Alcaldia de Yumbo > Departamento Administrativo de Planeación > > Celular: 3128252959 > **La información enviada en este mensaje electrónico es confidencial y > solo para uso de la persona/compañía identificada en el mismo. Si el > receptor de este mensaje no es la persona de destino mencionada, cualquier > divulgación, distribución y/o copia de la información contenida en este > mensaje electrónico, se encuentra estrictamente prohibida. Si usted recibe > este mensaje por error, por favor notifique al emisor del mismo de > inmediato. > P ¡Antes de imprimir piense en su responsabilidad y compromiso con el AMBIENTE > ! > * > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org

Aug. 8, 2011

Aproximadamente cuanto demora la entrega de Estos Productos a las Ciudades de America

by Jhan Carlo Perez

Hello I am located in the city of Yumbo - Colombia, approximately how long it takes to getproducts pra SFD. thanks Cordialmente; Jhan Carlo Peréz Ramiréz Telefono: +57 (2) 6516600 ext. 2245 Alcaldia de Yumbo Departamento Administrativo de Planeación Celular: 3128252959 La información enviada en este mensaje electrónico es confidencial y solo para uso de la persona/compañía identificada en el mismo. Si el receptor de este mensaje no es la persona de destino mencionada, cualquier divulgación, distribución y/o copia de la información contenida en este mensaje electrónico, se encuentra estrictamente prohibida. Si usted recibe este mensaje por error, por favor notifique al emisor del mismo de inmediato. P ¡Antes de imprimir piense en su responsabilidad y compromiso con el AMBIENTE!

Aug. 8, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Regarding SFD Tshirt Size!!

by karan pratap singh

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Frederic Muller - SFI < fred(a)softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: > On 08/09/2011 03:02 AM, karan pratap singh wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have one small query...how will you guys know what are our tshirt > > sizes are? > > The registration form did not have any tshirt size entry, afaik... > > > > -- > > > Sure, we don't: we are sending 1 M, 1 L and 1 XXL to all teams. > > Great! I am a XXL xD > Asking for sizes was a logistic cost and forced us to wait until the > deadline to be able to place the order. We then had to wait for at least > 2 weeks (assuming the supplier had no other order in production) to get > the t-shirts, and then pack (and making sure the right sizes were sent > to the right teams). This took a lot of time, pressure and stress on the > team and definitely not efficient. > > Should the size be an issue you will still have 10 iron transfer > stickers to make your own t-shirts at the size you need for your team. > > At the end I think it's a big win: you get more shirt and we can push > the deadlines so more teams get goodies eventually. > > +1 :) -- regards, Karan Pratap Singh

Aug. 8, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Regarding SFD Tshirt Size!!

by Frederic Muller - SFI

On 08/09/2011 03:02 AM, karan pratap singh wrote: > Hi > > I have one small query...how will you guys know what are our tshirt > sizes are? > The registration form did not have any tshirt size entry, afaik... > > -- Sure, we don't: we are sending 1 M, 1 L and 1 XXL to all teams. Asking for sizes was a logistic cost and forced us to wait until the deadline to be able to place the order. We then had to wait for at least 2 weeks (assuming the supplier had no other order in production) to get the t-shirts, and then pack (and making sure the right sizes were sent to the right teams). This took a lot of time, pressure and stress on the team and definitely not efficient. Should the size be an issue you will still have 10 iron transfer stickers to make your own t-shirts at the size you need for your team. At the end I think it's a big win: you get more shirt and we can push the deadlines so more teams get goodies eventually. Thanks. Fred

Aug. 8, 2011

Regarding SFD Tshirt Size!!

by karan pratap singh

Hi I have one small query...how will you guys know what are our tshirt sizes are? The registration form did not have any tshirt size entry, afaik... -- regards, Karan Pratap Singh PULUG Panjab University Chandigarh, India

Aug. 8, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Goodies update

by Frederic Muller - SFI

On 08/09/2011 12:26 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Another issue is the pulverization of information, subconsiously having > to subscribe to a mailing list has a feel of commitment that some > (including myself) are not always open to. So subscribing to a > 'marketing' list just to ask a question and then unsusbscribe seems like > a lot of effort and time. Deciding not to subscribe to every single > mailing list means that some information might pass through unnotice. right. We've been contemplating using a forum based discussion channel as well. The limiting factor is to have integration with moinmoin so people don't need to register yet again. The search is still in progress and hopefully maybe this is something we will be able to provide either in 2011 or 2012. Marketing is not open to all -> one needs to 'apply' (introduce himself and motive his request) to be subscribed. sfd-discuss is open to all. Fred

Aug. 8, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Goodies update

by Alexandro Colorado

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Frederic Muller - SFI < fred(a)softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: > > On 08/08/2011 11:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > I suggest to link that information somewhere from the registration > > page. The information might be orphaned from the site information. This > > should be also on the startup guide as well IMO. > > That has been suggested as people (not reading stuff) don't know what > they'll be getting. This is something we'll try to do next year but > there are limitations as goodies depend on how much money we can raise. > > Now that Goodies offer is off, there is no need to place it on the > registration form. > > > > > The content of the package is relevant enough information for the teams > > during the registration process and also why register on time (although > > that time had passed). > > > > There were some locations in Venezuela and Panama that they just > > register on the wiki and didnt bother on the map, maybe learning about > > the opportunity of getting free swag might have been a driver to be more > > careful. > > Every year we have 20+ that do not register on the map. I EMAIL EVERY > ONE OF THEM PERSONALLY (sometimes more than once) and therefore have > little to no excuse. > > I have had people also telling me (yes I also email people who answered > "no" to goodies) that they think other teams will need those more than > them, in remote or third world countries (bad internet, bad > infrastructure, etc...). > > Last but not least, organizing SFD means that you need to pay a little > attention to what's happening globally and subscribe to the mailing > list. It's low traffic and you sometimes actually learn stuff. > > As you can see I do a lot of spoon feeding and running an SFD event is > something team leaders should take seriously. Most do. > Yes I agree, however as a content manager is good to link or cross reference relevant content, specially if the main source is remote of the environment (i.e. The wiki or an external blog). Also these seems a bit of a lot of manual work that could be delegated somewhat to auxiliar members of the core group. In my experience lack of good communication skills (language barrier) or involvement path (leads feel as external supporters). A community might not reach it's full potential and some vital information might be run by unnotice. Another issue is the pulverization of information, subconsiously having to subscribe to a mailing list has a feel of commitment that some (including myself) are not always open to. So subscribing to a 'marketing' list just to ask a question and then unsusbscribe seems like a lot of effort and time. Deciding not to subscribe to every single mailing list means that some information might pass through unnotice. > > Fred > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org

Aug. 8, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Goodies update

by Frederic Muller - SFI

On 08/08/2011 11:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > I suggest to link that information somewhere from the registration > page. The information might be orphaned from the site information. This > should be also on the startup guide as well IMO. That has been suggested as people (not reading stuff) don't know what they'll be getting. This is something we'll try to do next year but there are limitations as goodies depend on how much money we can raise. Now that Goodies offer is off, there is no need to place it on the registration form. > > The content of the package is relevant enough information for the teams > during the registration process and also why register on time (although > that time had passed). > > There were some locations in Venezuela and Panama that they just > register on the wiki and didnt bother on the map, maybe learning about > the opportunity of getting free swag might have been a driver to be more > careful. Every year we have 20+ that do not register on the map. I EMAIL EVERY ONE OF THEM PERSONALLY (sometimes more than once) and therefore have little to no excuse. I have had people also telling me (yes I also email people who answered "no" to goodies) that they think other teams will need those more than them, in remote or third world countries (bad internet, bad infrastructure, etc...). Last but not least, organizing SFD means that you need to pay a little attention to what's happening globally and subscribe to the mailing list. It's low traffic and you sometimes actually learn stuff. As you can see I do a lot of spoon feeding and running an SFD event is something team leaders should take seriously. Most do. Fred

Aug. 8, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Goodies update

by Alexandro Colorado

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Frederic Muller - SFI < fred(a)softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: > On 08/08/2011 08:06 PM, Jaysel Noma Ramos wrote: > > sir frederic muller, > > how many tshirt we can avail from your organization.. or the tally of > > materials we can get.?? > > http://pockey.dao2.com/2011/08/sfd2011-schwag-ready/ > > We try really hard to communicate, obviously we're failing. > > This question has been asked way too many times. Please read, look at > our planet (this is where the community talks about thing), look at our > blog, etc > I suggest to link that information somewherre from the registration page. The information might be orphaned from the site information. This should be also on the startup guide as well IMO. The content of the package is relevant enough information for the teams during the registration process and also why register on time (although that time had passed). There were some locations in Venezuela and Panama that they just register on the wiki and didnt bother on the map, maybe learning about the opportunity of getting free swag might have been a driver to be more careful. > > Thanks. > > Fred > ps: planet URL: > http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/community/sfd-planet > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org

Aug. 8, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Goodies update

by Frederic Muller - SFI

On 08/08/2011 08:06 PM, Jaysel Noma Ramos wrote: > sir frederic muller, > how many tshirt we can avail from your organization.. or the tally of > materials we can get.?? http://pockey.dao2.com/2011/08/sfd2011-schwag-ready/ We try really hard to communicate, obviously we're failing. This question has been asked way too many times. Please read, look at our planet (this is where the community talks about thing), look at our blog, etc Thanks. Fred ps: planet URL: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/community/sfd-planet

Aug. 8, 2011