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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Jurgen Gaeremyn

Dear all, I understand the importance of FOSS, and the necessity to use it ourselves. Yet, if I have to choose between the event not happening (because stranding on nobody willing/able) to provide the needed expertise and bandwith or the event happening on some closed source streaming server... I will choose the latter everyday of the week. So unless there is someone standing up and offering to supply for this open source streaming service, I will applaud any single person doing whatever initiative it is. Jurgen, Just some FOSS-minded dude. On 16/08/2020 07:31, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote: > Dear Sir > > সোম, ১০ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৭:৪৯ PM টায় এ LM <lmemsm(a)gmail.com > <mailto:lmemsm@gmail.com>> লিখেছেন: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > > > Other possibilities: > > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ > > > None of the above list are a Free/Libre Software. > > Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free > Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully > available? > > > Source code is the Freedom No.1 You should have in a Libre/Free > Software. But Freedom 0, 2 and 3 are essential in a Software to be a > Libre software. > > Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software > advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't > approved by the FSF. Thanks. > > > For Live video streaming and video conference you may use jitsi meet > at https://meet.jit.si or you may download the source and host on your > own server or vps. :) > > with regards. > -- > রিং/ring > > মহাসচিব/General Secretary > এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh > > মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian > > সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

Aug. 16, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

আসসালামু আলাইকুম / Peace be upon you On 8/16/20 8:31 AM, সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদার wrote: > Dear Sir > > সোম, ১০ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৭:৪৯ PM টায় এ LM <lmemsm(a)gmail.com > <mailto:lmemsm@gmail.com>> লিখেছেন: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > > > Other possibilities: > > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ > > > None of the above list are a Free/Libre Software. > > Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free > Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully > available? > > > Source code is the Freedom No.1 You should have in a Libre/Free > Software. But Freedom 0, 2 and 3 are essential in a Software to be a > Libre software. > > Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software > advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't > approved by the FSF. Thanks. > > > For Live video streaming and video conference you may use jitsi meet at > https://meet.jit.si or you may download the source and host on your own > server or vps. :) What are your thoughts on the open source transport library SRT: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md which is integrated into OBS https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol It has an open source server: https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server If not using an existing CDN service and expecting many viewers, it would be helpful to have a network of servers. I do not know about typical bandwidth in Bangladesh, but standard videobridge setup (https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-videobridge) may be challenging to use with many participants since all streams are relayed. Is there any open source CDN software approved by FSF? Found the following for building own CDNs, using Nginx (http://nginx.org/) or Apache Traffic Server (http://trafficserver.apache.org/) : https://info.varnish-software.com/blog/build-your-cdn-in-5-steps https://www.nginx.com/blog/learn-to-stop-worrying-build-cdn/ https://www.comcasttechnologysolutions.com/blog/open-minds-open-source-open… > > with regards. > -- > রিং/ring > > মহাসচিব/General Secretary > এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh > > মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian > > সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Aug. 16, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by সাজেদুর রহিম জোয়ারদ ার

Dear Sir সোম, ১০ আগস্ট, ২০২০ তারিখে ৭:৪৯ PM টায় এ LM <lmemsm(a)gmail.com> লিখেছেন: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > > > Other possibilities: > > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ > None of the above list are a Free/Libre Software. > Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free > Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully > available? Source code is the Freedom No.1 You should have in a Libre/Free Software. But Freedom 0, 2 and 3 are essential in a Software to be a Libre software. > Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software > advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't > approved by the FSF. Thanks. > For Live video streaming and video conference you may use jitsi meet at https://meet.jit.si or you may download the source and host on your own server or vps. :) with regards. -- রিং/ring মহাসচিব/General Secretary এফওএসএস বাংলাদেশ/FOSS Bangladesh মোজিলিয়ান/Mozillian সদস্য, লিনাক্স মিন্ট বাংলাদেশ/Member, LinuxMint Bangladesh

Aug. 16, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Julian H. Stacey

> From: Benson Muite <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org> > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:54:17 +0300 Useful, Thanks. URLs inc. posting URL added to http://berklix.org/meet/#also Cheers -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/ Crash Brexit Dec. 2020 aids speculators & Russia. http://berklix.uk/brexit/ Russia report, many formats: http://www.berklix.org/russia/

Aug. 12, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Julian H. Stacey

LM wrote: > On Sun, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here > > http://www.berklix.org/meet/ > > Lot of links. More welcome. > > Here are the FSF links to remote communications: > https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-softwar… Thanks, added to http://www.berklix.org/meet/#also > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication Got that one already thanks on http://www.berklix.org/meet/ > My links on Internet communications and distance learning: > https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/14124.html Thanks, added to http://www.berklix.org/meet/#also > It would be nice to see the event list for 2020 available and a > mention of what events are online so people in other areas could join > in on those events as well. My biggest problem this year is that I > have another engagement on the same day and it can't be moved. I'm > wondering if I could celebrate SFD on another date in September or if > I'll just have to wait until next year. A minority of places globaly use different dates for local reasons, eg: { Munich Germany 2010, used the standard global SFD date, & collided with the opening day of http://Oktoberfest.de, O'fest in 2010 sucked in 6.4m visitors over 2 weeks, congesting transport. Saturday 18th September 2010 http://www.berklix.org/sfd/2010.html http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Europe/Germany/Muenchen In Munich 2011 we moved our SFD to 22nd October 2011 to not clash with Oktoberfest http://www.berklix.org/sfd/ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest#Termine/%C3%96ffnungszeiten O fest 2010 18. Sep. bis 4. Okt. O fest 2011 17. Sep. bis 3. Okt. } Cheers -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Engineer, BSD Linux http://berklix.com/jhs/ Crash Brexit Dec. 2020 aids speculators & Russia. http://berklix.uk/brexit/ Russia report, many formats: http://www.berklix.org/russia/

Aug. 11, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

On 8/10/20 4:48 PM, LM wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > >> Other possibilities: >> https://aws.amazon.com/chime or >> https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp >> https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp >> https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn >> https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ >> https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ >> https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ >> https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ >> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ > > Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free > Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully > available? Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software > advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't > approved by the FSF. Thanks. CDNs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network) are mostly infrastructure as a service. One can use open source software to record and send video and sound, but one typically needs to ensure adequate infrastructure to be able to stream to many viewers. Many CDNs do accelerate open source libraries for websites, see for example: https://www.keycdn.com/open-source-cdn An open source transport library is SRT: https://github.com/Haivision/srt/blob/master/docs/why-srt-was-created.md which is integrated into OBS https://obsproject.com/wiki/Streaming-With-SRT-Protocol Open source server: https://github.com/Edward-Wu/srt-live-server If not using a CDN, and expecting many viewers, it would be helpful to have a network of servers > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by LM

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 Benson Muite wrote: > Other possibilities: > https://aws.amazon.com/chime or > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp > https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn > https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ > https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ > https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ > https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/ Are any of these options Free Software in the sense that the Free Software Foundation uses the term "Free" and with source code fully available? Some of our local group includes Free/Libre software advocates and I don't think they'd go for a solution that wasn't approved by the FSF. Thanks.

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

On 8/10/20 1:51 PM, LM wrote: > On Sun, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here >> http://www.berklix.org/meet/ >> Lot of links. More welcome. > > Here are the FSF links to remote communications: > https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-softwar… > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication > My links on Internet communications and distance learning: > https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/14124.html > > It would be nice to see the event list for 2020 available and a > mention of what events are online so people in other areas could join > in on those events as well. My biggest problem this year is that I > have another engagement on the same day and it can't be moved. I'm > wondering if I could celebrate SFD on another date in September or if > I'll just have to wait until next year. > > Other possibilities: https://aws.amazon.com/chime or https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp https://www.akamai.com/us/en/resources/cdn-streaming.jsp https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/cdn https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-stream/ https://cloud.google.com/cdn/ https://www.centerserv.com/Streaming/ https://gcorelabs.com/media-platform/live-streaming/ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by LM

On Sun, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I made notes on virtual meeting softwares here > http://www.berklix.org/meet/ > Lot of links. More welcome. Here are the FSF links to remote communications: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-softwar… https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication My links on Internet communications and distance learning: https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/14124.html It would be nice to see the event list for 2020 available and a mention of what events are online so people in other areas could join in on those events as well. My biggest problem this year is that I have another engagement on the same day and it can't be moved. I'm wondering if I could celebrate SFD on another date in September or if I'll just have to wait until next year.

Aug. 10, 2020

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2020

by Benson Muite

On 8/10/20 3:50 AM, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Julian, > > Am 10.08.20 um 02:18 schrieb Julian H. Stacey: >> Ref http://mail.sf-day.org/pipermail/sfd-discuss/2020-August/003266.html >> >> PS A friend (BCC'd) researched BigBlueButton & others for an expo. >> rather than for meetings, & thought BigBlue might be better than Jitsi >> for that, but she ran out of time, >> If she has notes I could link to or include them at eg. >> http://www.berklix.org/meet/#jitsi >> http://www.berklix.org/meet/#bigbluebutton > > One of the Inkscape board members who works at a university in Paris > told us they're using it for lectures. > > When someone in our chat asked him about what would be required for up > to 200 (and a temporary maximum of 350) persons, this is what he replied: > > "then I would recommend ≥1GB/s bw , 8 cores, 32G RAM are enough - > disable webcams except for *one* speaker at most, screenshare strongly > discouraged, disable chat when >200people, never enable the > "collaborative drawing over slides" > > you would probably not use up more than 16G ram > but it is better on the safe side > rule of thumb is that bandwith will be limiting, and bandwith usage is > n_attendees×(n_webcams+4×screenshare)×1MB/s if you go for correct quality" > > For occasional meetups, Inkscape project members often use Jitsi, and > it's mostly fine for small numbers of people. With the free website, it > doesn't require any setup for trying it out. > Last time I used it, it only worked reliably in Chrome, though, and > people often had difficulties with the audio. Development may have > advanced, I've not been in a Jitsi meeting for a couple months. > > Hope this helps. > Maren > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > A number of cloud providers also offer streaming solutions which one can build on. Would be happy to help set something up if of interest and can lookup details of possible options.

Aug. 10, 2020