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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 5

by misheck mutuzana

Thanks Edgar Hoffmann,Abu Mohammad Omar Shehab Uddin Ayub,Clinton Meyer, Dave for the links. Regards Mutuzana Misheck Coordinator SchoolNET Zambia - Mufulira Branch Copperbelt Region Member: e-brain, CSZ,OSZ, Itrainer, PIT ENEDCO +260 955-418926/ 966-418926/ 977-418926 --- On Sun, 7/12/09, sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org <sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org> wrote: > From: sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org <sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org> > Subject: SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 5 > To: sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 7:00 AM > Send SFD-discuss mailing list > submissions to > sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sfd-discuss-owner(a)sf-day.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of SFD-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN > SOURCE (Edgar Hoffmann) > 2. Re: PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN > SOURCE > (Abu Mohammad Omar Shehab Uddin Ayub) > 3. Re: PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN > SOURCE (Clinton Meyer) > 4. Re: PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN > SOURCE (Edgar Hoffmann) > 5. Re: PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN > SOURCE (Dave Page) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:19:56 +0200 > From: Edgar Hoffmann <kontakt(a)freiesoftwareog.org> > Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN > SOURCE > To: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> > Message-ID: <1247325596.6194.1.camel@ubuntu-desktop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Am Freitag, den 10.07.2009, 10:08 -0700 schrieb misheck > mutuzana: > > Dear All, > > Is there any other programming languages in Open > Source that i can teach my students apart from Python? > Please may you send me materials on programming languages > that can be used in schools for the students. Also i would > be happy if programming software are sent to me or links > where i can download them. > > > > Regards > > Mutuzana Misheck > Coordinator SchoolNET Zambia - Mufulira > Branch Copperbelt Region Member: e-brain, > CSZ,OSZ, Itrainer, PIT ENEDCO +260 955-418926/ > 966-418926/ 977-418926 > > Hello. > As a non-programmer may I suggest Gambas > (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/) which is quite a good > starting point > even if it's not that "scientific" as C, Fortran, etc. > > Greetings from Germany > > Edgar "Fast Edi" Hoffmann > >

July 13, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN SOURCE

by Dave Page

On Sunday 12 July 2009 10:02:09 Edgar Hoffmann wrote: > I may have overlooked something on the mentioned project-site, but it > seems that Scratch is not free software (?). The license for Scratch is http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Scratch_License/License - it looks similar to the BSD license. I suspect that the clause requiring attribution in publishing would make the Scratch license incompatible with the GPL, but not necessarily non-free; however IANAL and the SFD discuss list is not the place for that conversation. There is also the Scratch source code license at http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code which has additional stipulations. > On the about-page is mentioned, that Microsoft, Intel and other closed > source companies are involved with the project. There is no such thing as a "closed source company". There is only free and proprietary software. Both Intel and Microsoft have produced free software - Intel is a contributor to the Linux kernel, for example. Dave -- Dave Page <grimoire(a)cultofperf.org.uk> Jabber: grimoire(a)jabber.earth.li

July 12, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN SOURCE

by Edgar Hoffmann

Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 16:52 +0930 schrieb Clinton Meyer: > Scratch is a great introduction to programming. Great with primary > school kids too > http://scratch.mit.edu/ I may have overlooked something on the mentioned project-site, but it seems that Scratch is not free software (?). On the about-page is mentioned, that Microsoft, Intel and other closed source companies are involved with the project. Just a thought of mine, not intended to start an off-topic discussion. Greetings from Germany Edgar "Fast Edi" Hoffmann

July 12, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN SOURCE

by Clinton Meyer

2009/7/11 misheck mutuzana <mutuzana(a)yahoo.com> > > Dear All, > Is there any other programming languages in Open Source that i can teach my > students apart from Python? Please may you send me materials on programming > languages that can be used in schools for the students. Also i would be > happy if programming software are sent to me or links where i can download > them. > > Scratch is a great introduction to programming. Great with primary school kids too http://scratch.mit.edu/ -- Clinton Meyer Grant High School skype: clinton.meyer www.granths.com.au/edwiki

July 12, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN SOURCE

by Abu Mohammad Omar Shehab Uddin Ayub

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Edgar Hoffmann < kontakt(a)freiesoftwareog.org> wrote: > Am Freitag, den 10.07.2009, 10:08 -0700 schrieb misheck mutuzana: > > Dear All, > > Is there any other programming languages in Open Source that i can teach > my students apart from Python? Please may you send me materials on > programming languages that can be used in schools for the students. Also i > would be happy if programming software are sent to me or links where i can > download them. > > > > Regards > > Mutuzana Misheck Coordinator SchoolNET Zambia - Mufulira Branch > Copperbelt Region Member: e-brain, CSZ,OSZ, Itrainer, PIT ENEDCO +260 > 955-418926/ 966-418926/ 977-418926 > Hello. > As a non-programmer may I suggest Gambas > (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/) which is quite a good starting point > even if it's not that "scientific" as C, Fortran, etc. > > Greetings from Germany > > Edgar "Fast Edi" Hoffmann > > > You may like to show them simplified codes of Java if they are going to high school. -- Shehab Bangladesh Open Source Network Software Engineer

July 12, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN SOURCE

by Edgar Hoffmann

Am Freitag, den 10.07.2009, 10:08 -0700 schrieb misheck mutuzana: > Dear All, > Is there any other programming languages in Open Source that i can teach my students apart from Python? Please may you send me materials on programming languages that can be used in schools for the students. Also i would be happy if programming software are sent to me or links where i can download them. > > Regards > Mutuzana Misheck Coordinator SchoolNET Zambia - Mufulira Branch Copperbelt Region Member: e-brain, CSZ,OSZ, Itrainer, PIT ENEDCO +260 955-418926/ 966-418926/ 977-418926 Hello. As a non-programmer may I suggest Gambas (http://gambas.sourceforge.net/) which is quite a good starting point even if it's not that "scientific" as C, Fortran, etc. Greetings from Germany Edgar "Fast Edi" Hoffmann

July 11, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN SOURCE

by Kevin Cole

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 17:08, misheck mutuzana <mutuzana(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Is there any other programming languages in Open Source that i can teach my > students apart from Python? Please may you send me materials on programming > languages that can be used in schools for the students. Also i would be > happy if programming software are sent to me or links where i can download > them. Tons of languages! GNU C, Java, Scratch, Squeak, GNU Fortran, Lisp, GNU Assembler... And that's just scratching the surface. Most have on-line learning materials that are just a web search away. What age range do your students fall into? What goals do you have in mind? -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/

July 10, 2009

PRGRAMMING LANGUAGES IN OPEN SOURCE

by misheck mutuzana

Dear All, Is there any other programming languages in Open Source that i can teach my students apart from Python? Please may you send me materials on programming languages that can be used in schools for the students. Also i would be happy if programming software are sent to me or links where i can download them. Regards Mutuzana Misheck Coordinator SchoolNET Zambia - Mufulira Branch Copperbelt Region Member: e-brain, CSZ,OSZ, Itrainer, PIT ENEDCO +260 955-418926/ 966-418926/ 977-418926

July 10, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] Deepening the GNU/Linux community

by Przemek Kulczycki

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:47 PM, shirish<shirishag75(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Reply in-line :- > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 00:44, Przemek > Kulczycki<przemekkulczycki(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Why don't you send it to the -devel lists of the major Linux distros? > > Hi Przemek Kulczycki, > Most of my impressions have been on Ubuntu, the distro. I > have been on for major part of 4 years or more. So while some of them > are questions for all the distros. some of them are unique to Ubuntu > per se. > > Also AFAIK its considered rude to just jump on some -devel mailing > list without being there a while. Then how do you want them to read it? I doubt that most of Ubuntu developers would be hanging out here. Don't be afraid to send an email to ubuntu-devel-discuss. I'm doing it every time I think I have something that might be useful for the devs. -- ## Przemysław Kulczycki >><< Azrael Nightwalker ## # jabber: azrael[na]jabster.pl | tlen: azrael29a # ### www: http://reksio.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~azrael/ ###

July 10, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] Deepening the GNU/Linux community

by shirish

Reply in-line :- On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 00:44, Przemek Kulczycki<przemekkulczycki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Why don't you send it to the -devel lists of the major Linux distros? Hi Przemek Kulczycki, Most of my impressions have been on Ubuntu, the distro. I have been on for major part of 4 years or more. So while some of them are questions for all the distros. some of them are unique to Ubuntu per se. Also AFAIK its considered rude to just jump on some -devel mailing list without being there a while. > > -- > ## Przemysław Kulczycki >><< Azrael Nightwalker ## > # jabber: azrael[na]jabster.pl | tlen: azrael29a # > ### www: http://reksio.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~azrael/ ### -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

July 10, 2009