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Re: [SFD-discuss] Archive of the Old Software Freedom Day Wiki

by Lars Nooden

On 07/28/2010 01:36 PM, Frederic Muller - SFI wrote: > As you can see from the current structure we already anticipated > archiving by having a folder for the year: > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/ Great, I hope that forward thinking spreads! > Now we found out a lot of teams (well maybe a minority but...) like to > keep what they did the year before in the same page. They could as well > link to 'last year event'. Excellent! > No matter what we're not going to 'save it somewhere' but rather keep it > under 2010/. Great. But at some point, the wiki page for a year past can be made read-only. After a further grace period, it could possibly be exported to static HTML to avoid maintaining old wiki software. > The question is whether we should migrate some pages, That might be enough. > offer > an easy-to-use interface to do so (yeah I know it's just copy&paste, but > some people find the wiki a bit 'technical' for their taste), That route sound like it adds a bit of development and maintenance and documentation work that is not directly related to SFD. Going that route, means learning the 'helper tool' plus the wiki. Leaving just the wiki as-is means that only one tool needs to be learned. Those that have trouble can more easily find someone else to barter with for help or to do the transfer. > or do nothing. I'd say migrate a few pages. /Lars

July 28, 2010

Re: [SFD-discuss] Archive of the Old Software Freedom Day Wiki

by Frederic Muller - SFI

On 07/28/2010 06:17 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: > On 07/28/2010 10:24 AM, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I have migrated the old wiki to a newer version and set it up on the new >> server under this address: >> >> http://archive.softwarefreedomday.org/ >> >> So this for all those who like to copy some old stuff out of it. >> > Later, when the 2011 wiki or site is started, maybe the old 2009 site > can be locked and saved read-only somewhere. > > /Lars > Hi! As you can see from the current structure we already anticipated archiving by having a folder for the year: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/ Now we found out a lot of teams (well maybe a minority but...) like to keep what they did the year before in the same page. They could as well link to 'last year event'. No matter what we're not going to 'save it somewhere' but rather keep it under 2010/. The question is whether we should migrate some pages, offer an easy-to-use interface to do so (yeah I know it's just copy&paste, but some people find the wiki a bit 'technical' for their taste), or do nothing. Your take? Thanks. Fred

July 28, 2010

Re: [SFD-discuss] Archive of the Old Software Freedom Day Wiki

by Lars Nooden

On 07/28/2010 10:24 AM, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have migrated the old wiki to a newer version and set it up on the new > server under this address: > > http://archive.softwarefreedomday.org/ > > So this for all those who like to copy some old stuff out of it. Later, when the 2011 wiki or site is started, maybe the old 2009 site can be locked and saved read-only somewhere. /Lars

July 28, 2010

Archive of the Old Software Freedom Day Wiki

by Thilo Pfennig

Hi folks, I have migrated the old wiki to a newer version and set it up on the new server under this address: http://archive.softwarefreedomday.org/ So this for all those who like to copy some old stuff out of it. Regards, Thilo -- XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig SFD 2010 http://softwarefreedomday.org/

July 28, 2010

Shortcuts Available for wiki page names

by Thilo Pfennig

Hi there, I have "invented" a solution for the very long URLs without cluttering the whole wiki. You can now create a short URL on page "s": - http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/s Simply type in the shortcut like "phantasylug" in the form and press "Create Shortcut" The edit the page after the #REDIRECT and enter the path to which the REDIRECT should work like: #REDIRECT 2010/Antarctica/Dot/PhantasyLug Result should be, that when people enter: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/s/phantasylug , they will get to the page: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Antarctica/Dot/PhantasyLug I hope some of you may find that useful, especially for your printing pleasure. And I hope it will work as expected. Regards, Thilo the wiki admin -- XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig SFD 2010 http://softwarefreedomday.org/

July 26, 2010

Re: [SFD-discuss] Continents

by Peter Eisinger

El 26/07/2010 13:35, Frederic Muller - SFI escribió: > > On 07/27/2010 12:06 AM, Peter Eisinger wrote: >> [...] >> To avoid (now) more confusions (people of center américa and >> surroundings, they are not identified with north america)... >> >> Something very simple: Alone to clarify in >> >> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010 >> North America (Mexico, USA,...) >> to: >> >> North America (Mexico, USA, Center America,..) >> >> >> Can he make it? >> > Any change in URL structure is an issue and extra workload. Not link change only text in wikipage: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010 >> North America (Mexico, USA, Center America,..) is it a lot to request?

July 26, 2010

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2010 registration is OPEN!!!

by Frederic Muller - SFI

some precisions below: On 07/26/2010 11:51 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote: > > The map is good, but not good enough till it doesn't know from where you are. > > But you, so you can zoom in with your mouse wheel or by clicking and dragging the map. You get to see exactly how many events are happening around your place to a precision any listing cannot give you (if you have 10 events in the same city, the listing is definitely not useful). You also have to consider that right now we have about "only" 200 teams registered, but by mid September when people (visitors) are going to look for an event we will have somewhere between 800 and 1000 teams (I hope at least). A page with 100 lines is not useful neither (i'm taking 100 lines considering how fast Indian teams are registering. With this kind of popularity it could as well be more. China had 86 teams last year FWIW). >> 2. You can edit the country page to list all the teams pages under India >> (if you cannot, I can... ;-) ) >> > True but it shouldn't be needed. What I was talking about is having > some kind of automation. On mediawiki this happens automatically. > For the reason stated above we believe it should be automatic but a decision from each teams/country. This is a wiki and you can edit it by yourself. You can create a template for your country and make sure people use it. We're a community and you can make decisions for your area. Based on the issues we're having this year (maintenance wise for example) and what people do with the wiki, we'll built next year system to incorporate those necessary features. > <snipped> > > >> I don't understand this point. The Bangalore page can be accessed by >> going directly to (without the extra highlight parameters): >> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore >> > Yup. For some reason it didn't work that day. Now it does. Glad you got your two issues working. Fred

July 26, 2010

Re: [SFD-discuss] Continents

by Frederic Muller - SFI

On 07/27/2010 12:06 AM, Peter Eisinger wrote: > [...] >> So what we can assure you is that next year we will be modifying the >> team page structure to take your comments into consideration. We don't >> have a clear plan yet, and maybe might not have Countries at all (we >> could use tags for example (even if team leader tends to delete them... >> ;-) ) ). Quiliro, one of our board member from Ecuador will make sure of >> that, Thilo our wiki Guru as well. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Fred >> SFI President >> > > According to link of Thilo to wikpedia, he was based in > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent#Number_of_continents > > Where it shows 5 ways of distinguishing the continents. > 3 of them with America like continent without divisions. > > > As well as they made the exception Australia (continent) vs Oceania > (region), we think something it could be made similar contemplating the > 3 regions or sub-continents in that the American continent is divided. > Undoubtedly the time passes and it is already inviable. It is understood. > > > To avoid (now) more confusions (people of center américa and > surroundings, they are not identified with north america)... > > Something very simple: Alone to clarify in > > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010 > North America (Mexico, USES,...) > to: > > North America (Mexico, USES, Center America,..) > > > Can he make it? > Any change in URL structure is an issue and extra workload. I myself find surprising to see Indonesia in Oceania, and I noticed a few Indonesian team leaders as well but they didn't make an issue out of it. So no modification in the current classification. All our efforts and time is spent on preparing SFD 2010. > > Next year. > As starting from this year the wiki add a historical one: > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/ > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/201x > > Do they really plan to make some change? As unifying America to 1 continent? > I already answered that question in my email. The topic is closed on our side and we prefer (we wish we had more time, more resources and much more things) to focus on SFD preparation. We will look again into 2011 preparation early 2011. Thank you. Fred

July 26, 2010

Re: [SFD-discuss] Continents

by Peter Eisinger

El 26/07/2010 11:36, Frederic Muller - SFI escribió: > > On 07/23/2010 04:21 PM, Peter Eisinger wrote: >> El 23/07/2010 4:49, Thilo Pfennig escribió:[...] >> >> Thilo, >> >> I understand that this year there is a lot of work. >> >> Alone we hope for the 2011 we can have America like 1 single continent. >> >> Thank you for so good work in the wiki. >> >> Regards, >> Peter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> >> > Dear Peter and friends from Central America, > > As discussed we raised the issue on our board meeting yesterday and we > all agreed that it's unfortunate we cannot give you the space you would > like to have. We based our continent split on Wikipedia list and the > widely accepted definition of continents without looking at what we had > on the previous wiki for years. It turns out that for many reasons we > could not easily upgrade the old wiki and we started from scratch (not > looking back). > > Modifying the current structure would bring a lot of extra load on our > admins who are already very busy. We believe we should all focus on > getting up to speed for SFD 2010 and live with this little problem. > We're all learning from this year new structure (like we have a separate > www site and are planing for more - the back log is long). > > So what we can assure you is that next year we will be modifying the > team page structure to take your comments into consideration. We don't > have a clear plan yet, and maybe might not have Countries at all (we > could use tags for example (even if team leader tends to delete them... > ;-) ) ). Quiliro, one of our board member from Ecuador will make sure of > that, Thilo our wiki Guru as well. > > Thank you. > > Fred > SFI President According to link of Thilo to wikpedia, he was based in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent#Number_of_continents Where it shows 5 ways of distinguishing the continents. 3 of them with America like continent without divisions. As well as they made the exception Australia (continent) vs Oceania (region), we think something it could be made similar contemplating the 3 regions or sub-continents in that the American continent is divided. Undoubtedly the time passes and it is already inviable. It is understood. To avoid (now) more confusions (people of center américa and surroundings, they are not identified with north america)... Something very simple: Alone to clarify in http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010 North America (Mexico, USES,...) to: North America (Mexico, USES, Center America,..) Can he make it? Next year. As starting from this year the wiki add a historical one: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/ http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/201x Do they really plan to make some change? As unifying America to 1 continent? > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > -- Cordiales saludos, Peter Eisinger http://PreguntasLinux.Org Comunidad de Software Libre Foro GNU/Linux/FOSS/*NIX Support Installfest FLISoL SFD http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/global/preguntaslinux FLISOL 2011 Sáb 9 de Abril http://flisol.info http://www.mail-archive.com/flisol@listas.el-directorio.org/maillist.html

July 26, 2010

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD 2010 registration is OPEN!!!

by shirish शिरीष

In-line :- On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 20:32, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred(a)softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: > Ok i'll reply inline too.. <snipped> > Due to less sponsors this year (still working on it, but some will only > give their response next month - so too late to be able to ship) we > cannot ship the T-shirts, etc. SFD has also been in the red being > supported in part by former and current presidents. We believe it is > time for us to spend less than what we can collect. > > Hopefully we'll be able to get more sponsors and make up with better > gifts for the competition (2009 & 2010) Right. understood. <snipped> > There are 2 ways: > 1. the map @ http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/map.shtml > you get an instant visual representation of how many teams are already > registered. The link is at the top of the registration form as well and > tells people to check before registering. The map is good, but not good enough till it doesn't know from where you are. > 2. You can edit the country page to list all the teams pages under India > (if you cannot, I can... ;-) ) True but it shouldn't be needed. What I was talking about is having some kind of automation. On mediawiki this happens automatically. <snipped> > I don't understand this point. The Bangalore page can be accessed by > going directly to (without the extra highlight parameters): > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore Yup. For some reason it didn't work that day. Now it does. > and actually > http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Asia/India/Bangalore#teams takes > you to the Teams section on that page. So what is not working on your > side? (the page being rather short, it stays within the screen though, > that's a browser behavior). ah ok. I tried it now with http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Europe/Germany/Berlin#Teams and it works, apologies the issue as rightly pointed out is a browser issue. > Thanks. > > Looking forward for your replies. > > Fred -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

July 26, 2010