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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011

by J. R.

Hello, 2 packages also received here in Leyte, Philippines we will celebrate SFD this coming Friday (Sept 16). cheers, JR Galia http://jrgalia.com >________________________________ >From: Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org> >To: Gladys Regalado <gladys(a)cp-union.com> >Cc: foss(a)cp-union.com; Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> >Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:33 PM >Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011 > > >Hi Gladys, > >On 09/10/2011 12:32 PM, Gladys Regalado wrote: >Hello everyone! >> >>We already received the Ubuntu CDs and received our postal notice for the team pack! >> >Nice to hear that teams from Philippines also starting to receive their team packs~ > > > >>You can find our event updates here: www.sfdphilippines.org. >> >>So far we've had 3 pre-event meet-ups, 47 schools, 54 organizations with a total of 2074 registered participants. >> >Impressive! Can't wait to look at your event pictures and report ;-) > >All the best to your SFD event! > >Pockey > > >_______________________________________________ >SFD-discuss mailing list >SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > >

Sept. 11, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Free and Open Source software for Windows compilations TTCS OSSWIN DVD and TTCS FSWIN CD available online for SFD 2011

by Dev Anand Teelucksingh

Hello Frederic, Unfortunately, the TTCS did not register for SFD as our workload (and lack of time) made it difficult to do a proper SFD event this month worthy of our previous efforts from 2006-2010 this year. Dev Anand Teelucksingh On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Frederic Muller - SFI <fred(a)softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: > Hey guys! > > Nice to see you're still maintaining the project. I didn't see you > registering for SFD this year, no time? > > Fred > > On 09/11/2011 11:49 PM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote: >> The Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society (TTCS ; http://ttcsweb.org/) >> is pleased to announce the availability of the TTCS OSSWIN DVD for >> download on the Internet in time for Software Freedom Day 2011 on >> September 17, 2011. >> >> TTCS OSSWIN DVD - http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-dvd/ >> >> The TTCS OSSWIN DVD is a compilation of nearly 100 programs Free and >> Open Source Software for Microsoft Windows 7/Vista/XP. >> >> You can use your web browser to read detailed information about each >> program in this compilation : what the program does, its key features, >> useful related websites, view a screenshot of the program and find >> links to the program's website and to download/install the program >> from the TTCS OSSWIN DVD. >> >> The web-based interface allows you to quickly browse the variety of >> software organised into the following categories: >> >> * Desktop Applications >> * Educational >> * Games >> * Graphics >> * Internet >> * Server >> * Sound and Video >> * Utilities >> >> Visit http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-dvd/ for a complete list of >> programs and how to download and use the 1.5GB ISO via BitTorrent. >> >> The TTCS OSSWIN DVD is the successor to the TTCS OSSWIN CD v2.2 >> (http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/) our compilation of Free and Open >> Source Software on a 700MB CD. Launched in 2006, the TTCS OSSWIN CD >> was garnered many favourable reviews from various websites and has >> found use in many countries at many events over the past 5 years. >> The TTCS OSSWIN CD was also updated in August 2011 in time for SFD >> 2011 for those seeking to distribute CDs rather than DVDs. See >> http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/ for a list of programs and how to >> download the 700MB CD via direct download. >> >> Also available is the TTCS FSWIN CD, a compilation of Free Software >> for Windows 7/Vista/XP. >> Free Software is software that meets the Free Software Foundation’s >> (FSF) definition at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html >> >> The impetus for the TTCS FSWIN CD came from a request from someone >> from Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe) >> (http://www.fsfe.org/) Details about the TTCS FSWIN CD, including the >> download mirror can be found at http://www.ttcsweb.org/fswin-cd/ >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at http://ttcsweb.org/ >> "networking local computer users!" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Sept. 11, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Free and Open Source software for Windows compilations TTCS OSSWIN DVD and TTCS FSWIN CD available online for SFD 2011

by Frederic Muller - SFI

Hey guys! Nice to see you're still maintaining the project. I didn't see you registering for SFD this year, no time? Fred On 09/11/2011 11:49 PM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote: > The Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society (TTCS ; http://ttcsweb.org/) > is pleased to announce the availability of the TTCS OSSWIN DVD for > download on the Internet in time for Software Freedom Day 2011 on > September 17, 2011. > > TTCS OSSWIN DVD - http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-dvd/ > > The TTCS OSSWIN DVD is a compilation of nearly 100 programs Free and > Open Source Software for Microsoft Windows 7/Vista/XP. > > You can use your web browser to read detailed information about each > program in this compilation : what the program does, its key features, > useful related websites, view a screenshot of the program and find > links to the program's website and to download/install the program > from the TTCS OSSWIN DVD. > > The web-based interface allows you to quickly browse the variety of > software organised into the following categories: > > * Desktop Applications > * Educational > * Games > * Graphics > * Internet > * Server > * Sound and Video > * Utilities > > Visit http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-dvd/ for a complete list of > programs and how to download and use the 1.5GB ISO via BitTorrent. > > The TTCS OSSWIN DVD is the successor to the TTCS OSSWIN CD v2.2 > (http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/) our compilation of Free and Open > Source Software on a 700MB CD. Launched in 2006, the TTCS OSSWIN CD > was garnered many favourable reviews from various websites and has > found use in many countries at many events over the past 5 years. > The TTCS OSSWIN CD was also updated in August 2011 in time for SFD > 2011 for those seeking to distribute CDs rather than DVDs. See > http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/ for a list of programs and how to > download the 700MB CD via direct download. > > Also available is the TTCS FSWIN CD, a compilation of Free Software > for Windows 7/Vista/XP. > Free Software is software that meets the Free Software Foundation’s > (FSF) definition at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > > The impetus for the TTCS FSWIN CD came from a request from someone > from Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe) > (http://www.fsfe.org/) Details about the TTCS FSWIN CD, including the > download mirror can be found at http://www.ttcsweb.org/fswin-cd/ > > > Kind Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at http://ttcsweb.org/ > "networking local computer users!" > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Sept. 11, 2011

Free and Open Source software for Windows compilations TTCS OSSWIN DVD and TTCS FSWIN CD available online for SFD 2011

by Dev Anand Teelucksingh

The Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society (TTCS ; http://ttcsweb.org/) is pleased to announce the availability of the TTCS OSSWIN DVD for download on the Internet in time for Software Freedom Day 2011 on September 17, 2011. TTCS OSSWIN DVD - http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-dvd/ The TTCS OSSWIN DVD is a compilation of nearly 100 programs Free and Open Source Software for Microsoft Windows 7/Vista/XP. You can use your web browser to read detailed information about each program in this compilation : what the program does, its key features, useful related websites, view a screenshot of the program and find links to the program's website and to download/install the program from the TTCS OSSWIN DVD. The web-based interface allows you to quickly browse the variety of software organised into the following categories: * Desktop Applications * Educational * Games * Graphics * Internet * Server * Sound and Video * Utilities Visit http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-dvd/ for a complete list of programs and how to download and use the 1.5GB ISO via BitTorrent. The TTCS OSSWIN DVD is the successor to the TTCS OSSWIN CD v2.2 (http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/) our compilation of Free and Open Source Software on a 700MB CD. Launched in 2006, the TTCS OSSWIN CD was garnered many favourable reviews from various websites and has found use in many countries at many events over the past 5 years. The TTCS OSSWIN CD was also updated in August 2011 in time for SFD 2011 for those seeking to distribute CDs rather than DVDs. See http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/ for a list of programs and how to download the 700MB CD via direct download. Also available is the TTCS FSWIN CD, a compilation of Free Software for Windows 7/Vista/XP. Free Software is software that meets the Free Software Foundation’s (FSF) definition at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html The impetus for the TTCS FSWIN CD came from a request from someone from Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe) (http://www.fsfe.org/) Details about the TTCS FSWIN CD, including the download mirror can be found at http://www.ttcsweb.org/fswin-cd/ Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at http://ttcsweb.org/ "networking local computer users!"

Sept. 11, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Using the Shapado Q&A for "post-SFD" suport

by Frederic Muller - SFI

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/2011 10:10 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: Maybe I misunderstood your message then: I thought it was a recommendation for SFD.org to use. Note also that I interpreted Q&A as FAQ in both your initial message and my reply. Hope that clarifies everything now :) Fred -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5s1EgACgkQoKznslZ0d26bjgCcDSZrkGF93N5Xd87x+Laxz7iu L+IAnj5suYcxSiRhYeE3WOFUXhNwdOwv =++/Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 11, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Using the Shapado Q&A for "post-SFD" suport

by Frederic Muller - SFI

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/2011 10:10 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: >> So no Shapado right now obviously, but working out a nice Q&A >>> section will be added on the todos. > I see some contradiction in the above, but I also see your point. > To be clear, I don't think declaring any such resources as > official in any way is important or critical here, but bringing > attention to local organizers so they decide if this fits their > context is important if we want to increase such tools visibility > and success (or not!). Maybe I misunderstood your message then: I thought it was a recommendation for SFD.org to use. Note also that I interpreted Q&A as FAQ in both your initial message and my reply. Hope that clarifies everything now :) Fred -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5s1FgACgkQoKznslZ0d263lwCeJ+b+ng1uhIpk+HhVcCW4S9qf Y8wAn1wmQdug1aIN3lKDfaidv1URgl9G =tLb8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 11, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives

by Julian H. Stacey

> other social networks that have reached or target being FaiF are out buzzword fails. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=FaiF&go=Go Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17th Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ Oct.

Sept. 11, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives

by Julian H. Stacey

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabi=E1n_Rodr=EDguez?= wrote: > On 09/10/2011 11:54 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > SAAS & clouds are not the direction UK government is going eg tax > > office & companies house (co. reg. authority) are pushing processing > > on to applicants PCs (Processing of PDF v. 1.7 editable forms for tax > > returns by Adobe Reader etc), Central servers are just for upload on > > completion, Not remote SAAS processing. > > Hmmm local examples are even more interesting. I don't quite see the > argument against SaaS on remote servers here, though. I mean: SAAS is _Service_), & Service (& servers) costs serious money. CDROMs & free software can undercut & compete. - One either pays money for service, - Or one gets advertised at to pay for the service, - Or one gets to be harvested in case of some "social" web sites, - Or in case of government, presumably to keep cost down, British tax office for corporation tax & companies house registration are having processing done on users PCs, & they're just providing lots of static web pages & up & down load, but avoiding bulk forms data input processing direct on line (full scale SAAS Service would cost more). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17th Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ Oct.

Sept. 11, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] Using the Shapado Q&A for "post-SFD" suport

by Fabián Rodríguez

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/2011 12:20 PM, Frederic Muller - SFI wrote: > > On 09/10/2011 07:08 PM, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: [...] > Likewise I am not a big fan of hosting my data in someone else home Me neither - but I lack the time to become autonomous on every single service I come across before I even try it. The data at this particular instance of Shapado (floss.shapado.com) is so little I only view it as a starting point, but SFI could decide to host another instance for its own audience. What I am saying is there is this resource already there, we can use it now, and if we like it, adopt it / transfer it / re-start it elsewhere. We can choose either way. > and should we run something similar on SFD servers that will have to > go through integration with existing services as much as possible, > and familiarity from the admins. I can't help in this part (timewise and admin-wise), but surely other Shapado admins (such as Debian's) have gone through that and can share experience. > So no Shapado right now obviously, but working out a nice Q&A > section will be added on the todos. I see some contradiction in the above, but I also see your point. To be clear, I don't think declaring any such resources as official in any way is important or critical here, but bringing attention to local organizers so they decide if this fits their context is important if we want to increase such tools visibility and success (or not!). Cheers, Fabian Rodriguez Montreal, QC, Canada http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab ~ http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5swT4ACgkQfUcTXFrypNV0IQCgoDGJ0t+NBQ3mT7k4Xv6GMsrF t/EAoK95ZV+BOJGM3oXwjV5/eM4VmcGb =OGyP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [SFD-discuss] JoinDiaspora and other SaaS alternatives

by Fabián Rodríguez

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/10/2011 11:54 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>> another tools for SaaS discussion on SFD should you come across >>> such > > No idea what SaaS was. I looked it up. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SaaS "Software as a service" Just > another marketing buzzword: "The concept of SaaS has been popularized > by Salesforce.com, which coined the term "The End of Software" to > differentiate its (then new) software-as-a-service approach .... Yawn > ! ...and an important one. Much like "Cloud Computing", I get questions phrased using such vocabulary all the time. Sorry I dropped it too fast here, anyone interested can read further on SaaS, for example articles like this: http://autonomo.us/2010/03/richard-stallman-on-saas/ I don't necessarily need or want everyone to agree on everything there, but I think it's important to remain critical while welcoming questions and discussions around some of the technical/ethical issues such tools may introduce. Different people reach different levels of readiness regarding setting their own services and ultimately being 100% free and autonomous. Just going through such an exercise regarding email, webmail and web hosting is a rare exercise. > Amusing bit: "Data escrow .... 85 percent of the participants wanted > to take a copy of their SaaS data. A third of these participants > wanted a copy on a daily basis." > > People askng about SAAS & clouds could be told: Remote data & service > clouds can evaporate. They seldom do, but when they do... a notable example is Geocities, Can anyone cite others ? > A free app. or server one installs localy from eg an SFD CDROM/DVD, > is an app. & data a remote admin on a remote SAAS server + cloud > can't break for you by unexpected upgrade, service removal, > bankruptcy, net outage, or deciding to go commercial & charge for > next week. I'd be careful there. Service removal can happen at many levels and in fact one of the arguments for using SaaS is lower cost of redundancy, higher availability, etc. -> again, not saying this is absolute truth, just one of the counter-arguments. > SAAS & clouds are not the direction UK government is going eg tax > office & companies house (co. reg. authority) are pushing processing > on to applicants PCs (Processing of PDF v. 1.7 editable forms for tax > returns by Adobe Reader etc), Central servers are just for upload on > completion, Not remote SAAS processing. Hmmm local examples are even more interesting. I don't quite see the argument against SaaS on remote servers here, though. Regarding Michael's remarks: On 09/11/2011 05:09 AM, Michael Dorrington wrote: [...] > (At least :) Two things concern me about Diaspora: > > 1. The ability of the project to write secure code. Writing secure > code is essential for a project of this kind. > http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/09/22/security-lessons-learned-from-the-diasp… Given > the context and the nature of the project, and its current status (not even beta), I don't see a problem there. In fact it's interesting anyone else would actually care about it enough to check the code, blog about it, and explain what failed and can be improved there. I see a path and a goal, and people learning. I am deeply annoyed the devs use Apple systems, for example - how credible can their platform be if they don't even dogfood on FaiF ? Or why do they keep posting videos in YouTube only ? Some of us using their site raise such concerns, and there is room for that too. I also see an opportunity to learn more about the difficulties and current failures. Even if Diaspora fails spectacularly as a finished project/product, many lessons are there for the taking. > 2. The contributor agreement. > http://www.vedetta.com/a-few-notes-on-diaspora-the-diaspora-verdict > The agreement itself is on Google Docs and requires a login to view > it. FaiF? Have you requested for it to be published elsewhere ? You know, that article has excellent information on many things needed for a project to be truly FaiF which would probably scare away anyone not willing to go through all the probems found. The main point I tend to focus on and amplify and I feel applies to many situations where we try to get people to use free technology and content, is "The current Diaspora flaws are fixable." Will they fix them ? Will people join to fix them or just sit around ? Is it worth our attention (or can we afford not to try and know this project) ? Again, I don't particularly embrace 200% or agree with everyone and everything about Diaspora, but not looking under its surface as a free software advocate seems like a lost opportunity on many levels. I'm also not using this as my sole "channel" to share stuff, so if any other social networks that have reached or target being FaiF are out there, I'll glaldy add them to my tools :) Cheers, Fabian Rodriguez Montreal, QC, Canada http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab ~ http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5su/EACgkQfUcTXFrypNUFqwCeMbd0E0SuxuUycp4xlO+xGnCg kjoAniv4Ap2nz4wj5s0a0M+CEz87iC5m =YUpl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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