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Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011

by Pockey Lam

On 09/12/2011 08:45 PM, Marcelo Araldi wrote: > Hello Pockey, > thanks for the number! My pack is waiting for conference since > 05/09/11 at the international treatment unity, in Brazil... I don't > believe it will arrive before 17/09 :( That's unfortunate... Every year we have a few SFD teams that have problem to receive their goodies, so this year we made all goodies in generic version without specifying the year, you can always reuse them for next year! All the best to your event! Pockey > > *Marcelo Araldi > me encontre na web! <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** > * > > > > 2011/9/12 Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org > <mailto:pockey@softwarefreedomday.org>> > > On 09/12/2011 07:27 PM, Marcelo Araldi wrote: >> Can't wait for it to arrive in Brazil! > > Hi Marcelo, > > If you haven't received your team packs yet, here you go the > tracking number: > > RA079551104CN > > Please check with your National Post Office with this tracking > number to see the status of your package! All the best to your SFD > preparation! > > Pockey > > >> >> *Marcelo Araldi >> me encontre na web! <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** >> * >> >> >> >> 2011/9/11 J. R. <akoni_claude(a)yahoo.com.ph >> <mailto:akoni_claude@yahoo.com.ph>> >> >> Hello, >> >> 2 packages also received here in Leyte, Philippines >> we will celebrate SFD this coming Friday (Sept 16). >> >> >> cheers, >> JR Galia >> http://jrgalia.com >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org >> <mailto:pockey@softwarefreedomday.org>> >> >To: Gladys Regalado <gladys(a)cp-union.com >> <mailto:gladys@cp-union.com>> >> >Cc: foss(a)cp-union.com <mailto:foss@cp-union.com>; Open >> discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> <mailto:sfd-discuss@sf-day.org>> >> >Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:33 PM >> >Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011 >> > >> > >> >Hi Gladys, >> > >> >On 09/10/2011 12:32 PM, Gladys Regalado wrote: >> >Hello everyone! >> >> >> >>We already received the Ubuntu CDs and received our postal >> notice >> for the team pack! >> >> >> >Nice to hear that teams from Philippines also starting to >> receive >> their team packs~ >> > >> > >> > >> >>You can find our event updates here: www.sfdphilippines.org >> <http://www.sfdphilippines.org>. >> >> >> >>So far we've had 3 pre-event meet-ups, 47 schools, 54 >> organizations with a total of 2074 registered participants. >> >> >> >Impressive! Can't wait to look at your event pictures and >> report ;-) >> > >> >All the best to your SFD event! >> > >> >Pockey >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >SFD-discuss mailing list >> >SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org <mailto:SFD-discuss@sf-day.org> >> >http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org <mailto:SFD-discuss@sf-day.org> >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org <mailto:SFD-discuss@sf-day.org> >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > >

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 54, Issue 24

by Seun Ojedeji

Hello people, Could you kindly clarify to me whether the tracking number below is for all SFD packages, as we are yet to receive our SFD goodies in University of Nigeria. If the tracking number is for all, could you guide on how to track the package? we particularly need the banner! We at UNN will also for the first time be joining the world in celebrating the SFD!! Our event program can be found here<http://learning.unn.edu.ng/moodle/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1633> Regards NB: If you will be in Enugu/south east during that period, do make it a day with us...and lets celebrate together! <<snip>> > Hi Marcelo, > > If you haven't received your team packs yet, here you go the tracking > number: > > RA079551104CN > > Please check with your National Post Office with this tracking number to > see the status of your package! All the best to your SFD preparation! > > <<snip>> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Seun Ojedeji, University of Nigeria, Nsukka (Enugu Campus) web: http://www.unn.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 Skype: seun.ojedeji alt email: seun.ojedeji(a)gmail.com* *you don't need a hero to succeed on the field....you need a team!*

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 54, Issue 24

by cheryl buatin

hi there! SFD goodies and DVDs already received by STI Southwoods MIT Team at Carmona, Cavite Philippines. Our SFD event will be on Sept. 17, and we are expecting more than 1,000 attendees such as students, local government personnel, IT Professionals and companies and some private institutions from South Luzon Area. We highly appreciate your support! Good luck to all SFD teams! -Cheryl From: "sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org" <sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org> To: sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011 5:00 AM Subject: SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 54, Issue 24 Send SFD-discuss mailing list submissions to sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org You can reach the person managing the list at sfd-discuss-owner(a)sf-day.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of SFD-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: SFD Philippines 2011 (Pockey Lam) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:59 +0800 From: Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org> Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011 To: Marcelo Araldi <marcelo.araldi(a)yahoo.com.br> Cc: Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> Message-ID: <4E6DF07F.6080607(a)softwarefreedomday.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 09/12/2011 07:27 PM, Marcelo Araldi wrote: > Can't wait for it to arrive in Brazil! Hi Marcelo, If you haven't received your team packs yet, here you go the tracking number: RA079551104CN Please check with your National Post Office with this tracking number to see the status of your package! All the best to your SFD preparation! Pockey > > *Marcelo Araldi > me encontre na web! <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** > * > > > > 2011/9/11 J. R. <akoni_claude(a)yahoo.com.ph > <mailto:akoni_claude@yahoo.com.ph>> > > Hello, > > 2 packages also received here in Leyte, Philippines > we will celebrate SFD this coming Friday (Sept 16). > > > cheers, > JR Galia > http://jrgalia.com > > > >________________________________ > >From: Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org > <mailto:pockey@softwarefreedomday.org>> > >To: Gladys Regalado <gladys(a)cp-union.com > <mailto:gladys@cp-union.com>> > >Cc: foss(a)cp-union.com <mailto:foss@cp-union.com>; Open > discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > <mailto:sfd-discuss@sf-day.org>> > >Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:33 PM > >Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011 > > > > > >Hi Gladys, > > > >On 09/10/2011 12:32 PM, Gladys Regalado wrote: > >Hello everyone! > >> > >>We already received the Ubuntu CDs and received our postal notice > for the team pack! > >> > >Nice to hear that teams from Philippines also starting to receive > their team packs~ > > > > > > > >>You can find our event updates here: www.sfdphilippines.org > <http://www.sfdphilippines.org>. > >> > >>So far we've had 3 pre-event meet-ups, 47 schools, 54 > organizations with a total of 2074 registered participants. > >> > >Impressive! Can't wait to look at your event pictures and report ;-) > > > >All the best to your SFD event! > > > >Pockey > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SFD-discuss mailing list > >SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org <mailto:SFD-discuss@sf-day.org> > >http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org <mailto:SFD-discuss@sf-day.org> > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011

by Marcelo Araldi

Hello Pockey, thanks for the number! My pack is waiting for conference since 05/09/11 at the international treatment unity, in Brazil... I don't believe it will arrive before 17/09 :( *Marcelo Araldi me encontre na web! <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** * 2011/9/12 Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org> > On 09/12/2011 07:27 PM, Marcelo Araldi wrote: > > Can't wait for it to arrive in Brazil! > > > Hi Marcelo, > > If you haven't received your team packs yet, here you go the tracking > number: > > RA079551104CN > > Please check with your National Post Office with this tracking number to > see the status of your package! All the best to your SFD preparation! > > Pockey > > > > *Marcelo Araldi > me encontre na web! <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** > * > > > > 2011/9/11 J. R. <akoni_claude(a)yahoo.com.ph> > >> Hello, >> >> 2 packages also received here in Leyte, Philippines >> we will celebrate SFD this coming Friday (Sept 16). >> >> >> cheers, >> JR Galia >> http://jrgalia.com >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org> >> >To: Gladys Regalado <gladys(a)cp-union.com> >> >Cc: foss(a)cp-union.com; Open discussions about SFD < >> sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> >> >Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:33 PM >> >Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011 >> > >> > >> >Hi Gladys, >> > >> >On 09/10/2011 12:32 PM, Gladys Regalado wrote: >> >Hello everyone! >> >> >> >>We already received the Ubuntu CDs and received our postal notice >> for the team pack! >> >> >> >Nice to hear that teams from Philippines also starting to receive >> their team packs~ >> > >> > >> > >> >>You can find our event updates here: www.sfdphilippines.org. >> >> >> >>So far we've had 3 pre-event meet-ups, 47 schools, 54 >> organizations with a total of 2074 registered participants. >> >> >> >Impressive! Can't wait to look at your event pictures and report ;-) >> > >> >All the best to your SFD event! >> > >> >Pockey >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >SFD-discuss mailing list >> >SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> >http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing listSFD-discuss@sf-day.orghttp://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > >

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011

by Pockey Lam

On 09/12/2011 07:27 PM, Marcelo Araldi wrote: > Can't wait for it to arrive in Brazil! Hi Marcelo, If you haven't received your team packs yet, here you go the tracking number: RA079551104CN Please check with your National Post Office with this tracking number to see the status of your package! All the best to your SFD preparation! Pockey > > *Marcelo Araldi > me encontre na web! <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** > * > > > > 2011/9/11 J. R. <akoni_claude(a)yahoo.com.ph > <mailto:akoni_claude@yahoo.com.ph>> > > Hello, > > 2 packages also received here in Leyte, Philippines > we will celebrate SFD this coming Friday (Sept 16). > > > cheers, > JR Galia > http://jrgalia.com > > > >________________________________ > >From: Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org > <mailto:pockey@softwarefreedomday.org>> > >To: Gladys Regalado <gladys(a)cp-union.com > <mailto:gladys@cp-union.com>> > >Cc: foss(a)cp-union.com <mailto:foss@cp-union.com>; Open > discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > <mailto:sfd-discuss@sf-day.org>> > >Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:33 PM > >Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011 > > > > > >Hi Gladys, > > > >On 09/10/2011 12:32 PM, Gladys Regalado wrote: > >Hello everyone! > >> > >>We already received the Ubuntu CDs and received our postal notice > for the team pack! > >> > >Nice to hear that teams from Philippines also starting to receive > their team packs~ > > > > > > > >>You can find our event updates here: www.sfdphilippines.org > <http://www.sfdphilippines.org>. > >> > >>So far we've had 3 pre-event meet-ups, 47 schools, 54 > organizations with a total of 2074 registered participants. > >> > >Impressive! Can't wait to look at your event pictures and report ;-) > > > >All the best to your SFD event! > > > >Pockey > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SFD-discuss mailing list > >SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org <mailto:SFD-discuss@sf-day.org> > >http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org <mailto:SFD-discuss@sf-day.org> > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011

by Marcelo Araldi

Can't wait for it to arrive in Brazil! *Marcelo Araldi me encontre na web! <http://about.me/marceloaraldi>** * 2011/9/11 J. R. <akoni_claude(a)yahoo.com.ph> > Hello, > > 2 packages also received here in Leyte, Philippines > we will celebrate SFD this coming Friday (Sept 16). > > > cheers, > JR Galia > http://jrgalia.com > > > >________________________________ > >From: Pockey Lam <pockey(a)softwarefreedomday.org> > >To: Gladys Regalado <gladys(a)cp-union.com> > >Cc: foss(a)cp-union.com; Open discussions about SFD <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > > >Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:33 PM > >Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD Philippines 2011 > > > > > >Hi Gladys, > > > >On 09/10/2011 12:32 PM, Gladys Regalado wrote: > >Hello everyone! > >> > >>We already received the Ubuntu CDs and received our postal notice > for the team pack! > >> > >Nice to hear that teams from Philippines also starting to receive > their team packs~ > > > > > > > >>You can find our event updates here: www.sfdphilippines.org. > >> > >>So far we've had 3 pre-event meet-ups, 47 schools, 54 > organizations with a total of 2074 registered participants. > >> > >Impressive! Can't wait to look at your event pictures and report ;-) > > > >All the best to your SFD event! > > > >Pockey > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SFD-discuss mailing list > >SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > >http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] [OT] Web forums considered harmful

by Julian H. Stacey

No interest in chat about forums & other buzz words, opinions on that endless, like "Which beer or laptop best" Could have been discussed months ago. Too late now. Its getting very near SFD day. Best keep list quiet & reading time minimal, clear for anything new that might arise. eg URLs to .iso's & lists of lectures one can borrow from elsewhere on the globe if a local lecturer can't get his presentation prepared in time. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct.

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] [OT] Web forums considered harmful

by Fabián Rodríguez

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/12/2011 05:23 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >>>>>> Alexandro Colorado <jza(a)openoffice.org> writes: > >> I found most of this reasons useless. > > … But not invalid? > >> Forums is a well stablish technology as well as proven. Sites like >> sourceforge use forums as well as many million of users are used >> to it. Big projects like Audacity, OpenOffice.org and others use >> forums intensively. > > However, during my participation (however short) in several free > software development projects, I've never had to use a Web forum to > communicate to the other developers. Keyword here: *developers* > The development of such a major free software components as, e. g., > Ext4, GRASS GIS, SQLite, and the Linux kernel, is centered around the > respective mailing lists, not to mention the Debian project, which > uses them quite extensively. > >> Althought I have to agree that it pulverize the communication, >> many users preffer forums specially for that reason. Keyword here: *users* > I wonder, what's the reason? > >> Forums are also easier to browse > > How is it so? One click, zero configuration, and you decide when you get the information (unlike email which is added to your daily data). >> and dont force the users to read every single message. > > Neither mailing lists do. And, of course, it doesn't apply to > newsgroups, either. The assumption on mailing lists is you do read the messages, as you subscribe to them. On forums the etiquette may vary. [...] >> Forums are specially important because they provide a better >> presence on valuable posts. having them move up by popularity or >> sticky notes. > Indeed, it's a valid point. > > Not that it's impossible to solve this problem for mailing lists or > newsgroups, but I know of no well-established solution. (Although I > have some ideas on the issue, but won't probably be able to get to > working on them anytime soon.) The content is there, we can make it disciverable in may other ways. RSS feeds can be reused/imported or simply mentinoning the most valuable posts every week/month, etc. Most projects folow this either informally (blogging, microblogging, interviews, radio, etc) or more formally (weekly review, reports, magazines). On of the best examnples I can cite of public outreach via a blog combining email subscriptions (which I hadn't used in a long time and did when coming across this one) is Raphael Hertzog's blog: http://raphaelhertzog.com/ - check its structure and timing for posts carefully. Other newer tools and approaches (such as rated Q&A like Shapado, which I metioned recently) establish new channels which can be combined with IRC and microblogging on even sites and communities where developers tend to hangout even less, particularly non-free, SaaS-only, etc. as per our context - such as Twitter, LinkedIn, etc. We have to think way beyond mailing lists and forums to reach as many people as possible. >> Centralization of information is also imposible, > Neither it's necessary. And the Internet news technology offers > probably the best currently available solution to decentralization. *Federation* on the other hand, is desirable. Perhaps a subject for another thread. >> imagine saying to the users, don't blog anymore because it >> generates conversations under your post which are unreachable from >> my mailing list and duplicate the communication channels.... I >> doubt you will get much uptake. Now multiply this on other >> channels, like youtube, twitter/identica and any other publishing >> environments. > > Honestly, I don't understand the very purpose of blogging. Moreover, > having no easy way to archive the texts I've written on my own media > simply makes me nervous. *Channels* is another keyword here. Discoverability is what I aim for when posting to several channels. With platforms like Wordpress it's dead easy to export in XML or database-query formats to save your data, you should check it out. A blog post is also a good way to summarize and gather resources and ideas, opinions, and facts, which can then be re-used easily. >> I am sure there are valuable comments on the SFD wall in facebook >> that this list will never see. That doesnt male the facebook >> presence a bad thing. The advantages of familiarity well outscore >> the annoyances. > > Perhaps. Well, it does make it a bad thing as Facebook can disappear or change (as it's happened to group pages) and if the content is *exclusively there*, it is lost. The key here is to try and not post there exclusively and share back whatever valuable unique information may be seen there. Google makes it easy for all its properties to keep your data (see http://www.dataliberation.org/) but one key component is missing: the social relationships people give to the data. This is part of the warning we need to keep in mind when using such servcies. As such, I prefer duplicating such relationships elsewhere for now. Cheers, Fabian Rodriguez Montreal, QC, Canada http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab ~ http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Canada/Montreal -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5t1ckACgkQfUcTXFrypNVLYACg2BpPflAhRognvjom5t3TtdnA VDIAoOUVxQFh5xDNgQ7ycG7HVTVgd8Ra =ShGF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] [OT] Web forums considered harmful

by Ivan Shmakov

>>>>> Alexandro Colorado <jza(a)openoffice.org> writes: > I found most of this reasons useless. … But not invalid? > Forums is a well stablish technology as well as proven. Sites like > sourceforge use forums as well as many million of users are used to > it. Big projects like Audacity, OpenOffice.org and others use forums > intensively. However, during my participation (however short) in several free software development projects, I've never had to use a Web forum to communicate to the other developers. The development of such a major free software components as, e. g., Ext4, GRASS GIS, SQLite, and the Linux kernel, is centered around the respective mailing lists, not to mention the Debian project, which uses them quite extensively. > Althought I have to agree that it pulverize the communication, many > users preffer forums specially for that reason. I wonder, what's the reason? > Forums are also easier to browse How is it so? > and dont force the users to read every single message. Neither mailing lists do. And, of course, it doesn't apply to newsgroups, either. Over the last five years, my Google Mail's INBOX has accumulated, I guess, a few thousands of conversations that I've not only not participated in, but not even read a sufficient fraction of the messages therein. > Forums are specially important because they provide a better presence > on valuable posts. having them move up by popularity or sticky notes. Indeed, it's a valid point. Not that it's impossible to solve this problem for mailing lists or newsgroups, but I know of no well-established solution. (Although I have some ideas on the issue, but won't probably be able to get to working on them anytime soon.) > Centralization of information is also imposible, Neither it's necessary. And the Internet news technology offers probably the best currently available solution to decentralization. > imagine saying to the users, don't blog anymore because it generates > conversations under your post which are unreachable from my mailing > list and duplicate the communication channels.... I doubt you will > get much uptake. Now multiply this on other channels, like youtube, > twitter/identica and any other publishing environments. Honestly, I don't understand the very purpose of blogging. Moreover, having no easy way to archive the texts I've written on my own media simply makes me nervous. > I am sure there are valuable comments on the SFD wall in facebook > that this list will never see. That doesnt male the facebook presence > a bad thing. The advantages of familiarity well outscore the > annoyances. Perhaps. -- FSF associate member #7257 Coming soon: Software Freedom Day http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/ planning-ru (ru), sfd-discuss (en)

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [SFD-discuss] SFD-discuss Digest, Vol 54, Issue 22

by Wilson, Francis

I downloaded OpenDisc.11.09.iso (or so I thought), but when I finished burning the disk, it seemed to be OpenDisc 09.07! Can someone explain the discrepancy? Francis Wilson

Sept. 11, 2011