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Re: [SFD-discuss] plans, patents and openeducation disc - Pune

by Frederic Muller

shirish wrote: > The moot or most basic question is should software freedom day be > limited to just speaking and showing Free software and talking about > or use the larger canvass of free culture as well ? > Softwarefreedomday is about letting know the worldwide public about FOSS. I don't think you need to oppose the 2 ideas you're mentioning as they don't oppose themselves. But you don't want to confuse your audience neither and send the wrong message (whatever that is). In short, make it simple and they might start to use FOSS. Make it complicated and you've probably lost your chances. I'm sure you already know the answer to your own question. > I felt the same question last year as well . > > Lastly, on a more practical note, the Openeducation Disc could do > perhaps with having a release number put up on it. I just went to the > site and saw there is OpenEducationDisc 09.07 > http://www.theopendisc.com/education/ now is this the version in the > discs given to us. > > It's actually based on 09.07 with VLC removed so not exactly the same. We also added some Linux ISO files so it's really not in line with the 09.07. I might even maybe have replaced the Firefox version to a newer one (or maybe not, can't remember). In fact it's the "SFD edition" and you have the 2009 SFD logo on it to remind you which one it is. Similarly giving away the latest version of everything is not as paramount as having someone trying the software (and he probably couldn't care less whether it's Firefox 3.0, 3.5.1 or 3.5.3 when trying out...). I believe that just like any Linux installfest a lot more goes into installing, than just clicking on the 'Next' button. > Looking forwad for feedback. > > Great to know your event preparation is moving forward, we also have a few universities moving the date for several logistic reasons (no student back, H1N1, etc.) Fred

Sept. 17, 2009

plans, patents and openeducation disc - Pune

by shirish

Hi all, This is gonna be a longish post so please excuse. 1. Our plans have been put at http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4424942/ Various talks related to free software and software freedom day will be held at various locations in Pune. Here are the details: Lokayat Hall: The hall is at Law College Road, near Nal Stop. The details of program are as follows -> Free Software and SFD - Abhijit M from Lokayat -> Power of Firefox - Amit K from PLUG -> A video film on relevant topic Date: Saturday, 19 September 2009 Time: 5 - 8 PM On the same day we will have some programs in colleges as well. Their details are as follows -> Program at COEP A talk on free software and SFD by Amit K A short video film -> Program at Modern Engg College ( Yet to be confirmed but it will happen most likely) A talk on free software and SFD by Rishikesh Y Business models in FOSS / Some other topic on technical aspect of FOSS - Shirish A Presentation on desktop env comparison of GNU Linux and Students - Some student of Modern Engg College -> Program at MMCC Engg College ( Yet to be confirmed ) A talk on Free Software and SFD by Sudhanwa J A talk on Localization/Indianization of GNU Linux -> Program at Sihagad Tech Instt ( Yet to be confirmed ) A talk on Free Software and SFD by Vaibhav G A talk on perl scripting by Amit K Website: http://plug.org.in Now one of the things is that most of the colleges seems to have made a holiday on 19th for something or the other. If this is so we would have to reschedule things a bit later, would inform the list as and when things happen. The second part is somehow this week there had been 2-3 talks on patents and patent-related stuff in my city 1 already over 2 still going to happen :- http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4417676/ and http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4417672/ this is a bit upsetting for me personally, as there are no good pre-made literature for fighting this FUD. Maybe somebody has ideas. The other part of the issue is there are two sorts of communities now developing in Pune. While one is more experienced and wiser as they have been when GNU/Linux had its share of growing pains and resources were limited There is a younger, more radical yet inexperienced and doesn't yet understand the implications of entering into a patent-copyright debate. Part of the problem is perhaps also the use of proxy war by patent-users (meaning playing in minds of people by literature and hand-waving rather than in court) to the copyright or copyleft stance of people . Other issues such as file-sharing, privacy, culture also enter the fair once you start engaging on those lines. The moot or most basic question is should software freedom day be limited to just speaking and showing Free software and talking about or use the larger canvass of free culture as well ? I felt the same question last year as well . Lastly, on a more practical note, the Openeducation Disc could do perhaps with having a release number put up on it. I just went to the site and saw there is OpenEducationDisc 09.07 http://www.theopendisc.com/education/ now is this the version in the discs given to us. Looking forwad for feedback. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

Sept. 17, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] 700MB iso

by Bruce Kingsbury

Far too late now I think. I might get it uploaded in time (probably not, my upload speed is very low) but nobody would have time left to download it and burn CDs. Next year I aim to have our own DVD similar to OpenDisc but with a lot more content, and possibly support for OSX as well. I'll be sure to have that available several weeks in advance. Next year will also be an LTS year so we'll get an extra large order of Ubuntu CDs too! 2009/9/17 Visvanath Ratnaweera <visvanath(a)ratnaweera.net>: > Hi all > > Ref: Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)wired.net.nz> 16.09.2009 06:55 >> WLUG dropped Wesnoth and added scorched, lincityng and freeciv which >> makes the CD just about dead-on 700M. I'd love to share but at the >> speed of my broadband the upload wouldn't be finished until after SFD >> anyhow. > > If there is demand, I can host the ISO at a professional hosting > service with very good connectivity, assuming Bruce can upload it > via FTP or SCP. > > Visvanath > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

Sept. 16, 2009

Any SFD events in or near Dallas, Texas this year?

by R. Steven Rainwater

I've checked both the team list and the map but don't seen any events in Dallas, Texas this year. I thought I'd check here just in case someone knows of an event that didn't get listed yet. Maybe all the free software people in Texas will be celebrating International Talk Like Pirate day instead this year? -Steve -- http://www.ncc.com/humans/srainwater/

Sept. 16, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] 700MB iso

by Visvanath Ratnaweera

Hi all Ref: Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)wired.net.nz> 16.09.2009 06:55 > WLUG dropped Wesnoth and added scorched, lincityng and freeciv which > makes the CD just about dead-on 700M. I'd love to share but at the > speed of my broadband the upload wouldn't be finished until after SFD > anyhow. If there is demand, I can host the ISO at a professional hosting service with very good connectivity, assuming Bruce can upload it via FTP or SCP. Visvanath

Sept. 16, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] 700MB iso

by Sameer Verma

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)wired.net.nz> wrote: > We're also handing out OpenDisk-plus, which is a 2.6GB DVD. It still > has wesnoth on it and quite a lot more ;) > > > 2009/9/17 C David Rigby <c.david.rigby(a)gmail.com>: >> Bruce Kingsbury wrote: >>> WLUG dropped Wesnoth and added scorched, lincityng and freeciv which >>> makes the CD just about dead-on 700M. I'd love to share but at the >>> speed of my broadband the upload wouldn't be finished until after SFD >>> anyhow. >>> >>> It was pretty easy to shuffle stuff around anyhow, just copy one of >>> the existing html files and edit it for any new programs you add. >>> >>> 2009/9/16 Sameer Verma <sverma(a)sfsu.edu>: >>> >>>> Does anyone have a 700MB ISO of the OpenDisc or has created something >>>> similar? The project has moved to 1.3GB DVDs but we'd like to give out >>>> CDs. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> Sameer >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. >>>> Associate Professor, Information Systems >>>> Director, Center for Business Solutions >>>> San Francisco State University >>>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/ >>>> http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ >>>> http://is.sfsu.edu/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>>> >> You dropped Wesnoth?! I'm horrified! (8-> >> >> CDRigby, SFD Singapore >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFD-discuss mailing list >> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> > > > > -- > Disclaimer: > By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: > 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" > 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and > make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it > lends itself to. > 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. > 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality > that may be included on your message. > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > It looks like we have several variants. Has anyone thought about putting these up on http://legaltorrents.com? Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Center for Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/

Sept. 16, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] 700MB iso

by Bruce Kingsbury

We're also handing out OpenDisk-plus, which is a 2.6GB DVD. It still has wesnoth on it and quite a lot more ;) 2009/9/17 C David Rigby <c.david.rigby(a)gmail.com>: > Bruce Kingsbury wrote: >> WLUG dropped Wesnoth and added scorched, lincityng and freeciv which >> makes the CD just about dead-on 700M. I'd love to share but at the >> speed of my broadband the upload wouldn't be finished until after SFD >> anyhow. >> >> It was pretty easy to shuffle stuff around anyhow, just copy one of >> the existing html files and edit it for any new programs you add. >> >> 2009/9/16 Sameer Verma <sverma(a)sfsu.edu>: >> >>> Does anyone have a 700MB ISO of the OpenDisc or has created something >>> similar? The project has moved to 1.3GB DVDs but we'd like to give out >>> CDs. >>> >>> cheers, >>> Sameer >>> -- >>> Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. >>> Associate Professor, Information Systems >>> Director, Center for Business Solutions >>> San Francisco State University >>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/ >>> http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ >>> http://is.sfsu.edu/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SFD-discuss mailing list >>> SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org >>> http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss >>> > You dropped Wesnoth?! I'm horrified! (8-> > > CDRigby, SFD Singapore > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- Disclaimer: By sending an email to any of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

Sept. 16, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] Reports

by andre

On Wednesday 16 September 2009 18:04:23 Frederic Muller wrote: > > Flexibility is the way to go and we trust each team leader to be aware of > the local context to decide what's best for their Software Freedom Day > event. > Like I said my 2c (as in my opinion) :) I guess imho it would be great if SFD could become like xmas (and even a holiday everywhere too :) ) where do we load the videos and pics for this year? :) andre

Sept. 16, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] Reports

by Frederic Muller

Sept. 16, 2009

Re: [SFD-discuss] Reports

by Sameer Verma

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:23 AM, andre <andre(a)andre.co.za> wrote: > On Wednesday 16 September 2009 17:14:36 Mani A wrote: >> Where do I put in the report for SFD'2009? >> >> The Kolkata team had its SFD event yesterday (15th). >> >> Thanks >> >> A. Mani > > Software Freedom Day is on the 19th (this Saturday) the point > of having it on the same day all over the world is that we can focus > media attention, sponsors etc. and market the heck out of > open source software. If we all start having SFD on our own days > it will still be great, but hardly an international software freedom day. > > 2c > > andre > > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > Andre, While you do make a good point from an advocacy perspective, we can hardly host SFD on the 19th this year because our campus would have "an audience of three" on a Saturday. We are hosting it tomorrow (Sept 17). We've done so for three years now and its always been a hit. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Center for Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/

Sept. 16, 2009