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Re: [SFD-discuss] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Matthew Davidson

Robert Schumann wrote: > What we are proposing instead is to send teams > 1. One CD or DVD containing open source documentaries, interviews, music > and > any other open resources we can get hold of > 2. A single copy of The Open CD, which can be replicated by teams if they > wish to distribute this software > 3. ...as well as the usual T-shirts and a few other little items! All sounds good to me. I hastily put together some CDs of music and video for SFD2005 along those lines - all terribly dated now of course. I vote for including some video of Eben Moglen - he's awesomely inspiring. I'd have some misgivings about giving away home-made distro CDs to newbies. The last thing you want is to have someone's first experience of a free OS being a borked install process caused by dodgy media. It's not so essential for something like the OpenCD to be bit-perfect. Be careful where you source your music from. There are a distressing number of businesses (like Magnatune - http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/16/1458249) who slap a Creative Commons button on their site for the karma it brings, while doing their best to ensure that users can't exercise the rights granted by the licenses that they are notionally using. Some sites even only distribute their "free" music streamed via Flash plugins, to prevent people copying and reproducing ostensibly freely redistributable works. I don't think we should be supporting people who believe in "free as in shareware". I can wholeheartedly recommend Jamendo (http://www.jamendo.com/, try these albums for starters: http://www.jamendo.com/en/user/mjdsawtell/albums/) who not only offer CC-licensed music (mostly by-nc-sa), but also embrace Ogg Vorbis and BitTorrent. Wish they would smoke less AJAX crack, though. Here's what was in the CD I put together in 2005 (I also had some music from Magnatune, which I wouldn't include now): Books * Three Novels by Cory Doctorow * Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software by Sam Williams * We the Media: Grassroots Journalism by the People, for the People by Dan Gillmor * Free Culture: How Big Media Uses Technology and the Law to Lock Down Culture and Control Creativity by Lawrence Lessig * Understanding Open Source and Free Software Licensing * Free Software Magazine - Issues 0-6 Audio * Free Culture: How Big Media Uses Technology and the Law to Lock Down Culture and Control Creativity by Lawrence Lessig (and friends) * LugRadio - 2 episodes * The Dangers of Software Patents by Richard Stallman * Copyright vs Community in the age of computer Networks by Richard Stallman Video From the Creative Commons Project * Creative Commons - Get Creative * Creative Commons - Remix Culture * Building on the Past * CC Brazil From archive.org * Richard Stallman - Rome - Interview (4-1-2003) Matthew. -- Alma Technology - The future is free and open http://www.almatech.net.au ... (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- http://computerclub.cex.com.au http://www.clublinux.org.au -- "He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me." - Thomas Jefferson http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_8s12.html

June 12, 2007

Re: [SFD-announce] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Nathaniel Jayme

I agree on the new proposal. The visions and interviews from FLOSS leaders would be an effective way to diseminate this Culture of Freedom. I have also been downloading Redhat Summit keynote speeches of Eben Moglen and others to compile it to CD, for distribution in one of the major events we are organizing http://www.minfoss.info/ The event/conference will happen weeks after the Software Freedom Day Celebration. I would suggest that if there is a local branch of the sponsor in a certain country that they coordinate with each other, since this is an international celebration. That way, they can help local SFD teams in reproducing DVD/CD. This can somehow, ease the burden of SFD headquarters of spending shipping, and focus on areas where there is problem in internet connectivity. I am from the philippines and would be happy to know of a branch office of one of the sponsors who can help us out in reproducing the CD/DVD. We plan to not only distribute it to students but also to school administrators, city leaders, corporate managers, and Non-Goverment Organizations. I have also created a small booklet and would be happy for comments and additional contents. I am planning it to just be a concise booklet so people can easily digest the need for FLOSS and other Free licenses. http://www.minfoss.info/FOSSOC2007_Booklet.pdf NBJayme --- Robert Schumann <robert(a)softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: > > What we are proposing instead is to send teams > 1. One CD or DVD containing open source > documentaries, interviews, music and > any other open resources we can get hold of > 2. A single copy of The Open CD, which can be > replicated by teams if they > wish to distribute this software > 3. ...as well as the usual T-shirts and a few other > little items! > > Another part of the reason for this proposed change > is to make available to > teams (including teams in parts of the world where > internet connectivity is > not great) a set of resources that can be used to > convey the message of > software freedom (for example, interviews with some > leaders in the FLOSS > world). These resources could then also be used to > put together your own > documentary or shown at other software freedom > events you may plan ( e.g. > for a campus fair at your college, or an IT > exhibition). > 1. suggestions for resources to be put on the CD/DVD > (which must be under an > open license). > 2. whether your team would have a problem using a > DVD and you'd prefer a CD. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

June 11, 2007

RE: [Spam:11.5] [SFD-discuss] Re: [SFD-announce] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Douglas A. Whitfield

What exactly is the point of the music? I can see videos and such being educational/useful, but are the Sex Pistols going to do their rendition of "God Save Microsoft"? Don't get me wrong, some death metal grunting about FOSS would float my boat, but I fail to see the value in this when it comes to SFD. I could see examples of music created in open source software being useful, but that kind of seems like a niche. Plus, just having the music doesn't tell the individual how hard/easy it was to create the piece in the software. Douglas A. Whitfield IT Student Assistant Mon, Wed, Thurs 9-5 until July 30th Development Office 208 West Franklin Street, CB# 6100 The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Office (Server Room): 919-843-3226 Cell: 919-360-0306 Carolina Open Source Initiative Co-President Carolina-opensource(a)listserv.unc.edu http://softwarefreedomday.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/cosi _____ From: sfd-discuss-bounces(a)sf-day.org [mailto:sfd-discuss-bounces@sf-day.org] On Behalf Of Robert Schumann Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:05 PM To: Fabian Rodriguez Cc: Team discussions about SFD Subject: [Spam:11.5] [SFD-discuss] Re: [SFD-announce] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams To be clear, the suggestion is that the CD we send doesn't contain any software: it will likely contain only music and video footage. Thanks everybody for your suggestions - keep them coming. It is very helpful for us to get an idea of what teams are looking for from us. Robert.

June 11, 2007

Any SFD enthusiasts in Buenos Aires?

by Robert Schumann

I'm going to be in Buenos Aires this weekend and was wondering if I could persuade any local software freedom supporters on this list to let me buy them a drink. As a board member of Software Freedom International I'm involved with the behind-the-scenes organisation for SFD, which means I can tell you all you ever wanted to know about where we get our T-shirts and what our plans for the future are, and how SFD all got started. I can also take your feedback to our board meetings. If you're in or near Buenos Aires on Saturday, feel free to respond either to directly to me or via this mailing list. And if you know of other FLOSS supporters in BA, you're welcome to pass on this email to them. Looking forward to meeting you! Robert.

June 11, 2007

Re: [SFD-announce] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Robert Schumann

To be clear, the suggestion is that the CD we send doesn't contain any software: it will likely contain only music and video footage. Thanks everybody for your suggestions - keep them coming. It is very helpful for us to get an idea of what teams are looking for from us. Robert. On 11/06/07, Fabian Rodriguez <magicfab(a)member.fsf.org> wrote: > > Robert Schumann wrote: > > The organisers of Software Freedom Day have been discussing making > > some changes to the supplies we will be making available to SFD teams > > this year. > > > > [...] > > However, for various reasons we would like to avoid shipping The Open > > CD this year. [...] > Personally, I tend to agree with whatever you would be able to send. We > can arrange for The OpenCD distribution locally, if absolutely necessary. > > What we are proposing instead is to send teams > > 1. One CD or DVD containing open source documentaries, interviews, > > music and any other open resources we can get hold of > > 2. A single copy of The Open CD, which can be replicated by teams if > > they wish to distribute this software > > 3. ...as well as the usual T-shirts and a few other little items! > > > > [...] > > 1. suggestions for resources to be put on the CD/DVD (which must be > > under an open license). > I'd like to suggest adding the Code breakers documentary to the mix, in > Ogg Theora format: > http://www.apdip.net/news/fossdoc > > We have produced an english transcript available as .SRT subtitle and a > spanish translation of it. Other translations are being coordinated if > anyone's interested: > http://tinyurl.com/2lppw9 > > > > 2. whether your team would have a problem using a DVD and you'd prefer > > a CD. > In this part of the world (Quebec, Canada), many people are now used to > DVDs, and most recent machines come wityh DVD readers. However CDs work > for everyone. So I would say if you send a master DVD we could > accomodate for reproduction of it. > > Cheers, > > Fabian Rodriguez, SFD contact at FACIL > http://facil.qc.ca/FabianRodriguez >

June 11, 2007

Re: [SFD-discuss] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Julio Cesar Puigpinos

2007/6/11, Robert Schumann: > [...] > What we are proposing instead is to send teams > 1. One CD or DVD containing open source documentaries, interviews, music and > any other open resources we can get hold of This new option I like it very much. > 2. A single copy of The Open CD, which can be replicated by teams if they > wish to distribute this software This is the way we usually do it: each person that wants a particular software (a distro, a packages mirror copy, Free Software for another OS, etc) brings the CDs or DVDs necesaries to make the number of copies that they want. For us it turn out to be very efective and simple. But also, someone brings CDs or DVDs to give them away. >[...] > We are specifically interested in > 1. suggestions for resources to be put on the CD/DVD (which must be under an > open license). > 2. whether your team would have a problem using a DVD and you'd prefer a CD. No problem in using a DVD, but it would be nice if it then could be split in to CDs by us. > Looking forward to hearing from you, > Robert. > > PS - Three months left to go before SFD! How are your preparations going? We are at the beginning phase. Waiting the confirmation of the location for the SFD, so we can start the promotion. Saludos, Julio -- www.kwort.org Kwort Linux Distribution www.lugro.org.ar GNU/Linux User Group Rosario, Argentina Registered GNU/Linux User #358886

June 11, 2007

help

by xolani Ndlovu

hie everyone my name is xolani i am in Bulawayo i have been following the opensource movement for the past three years heavily reading open source literature so i teamed up with a friend to start an open source movement in Bulawayo (OPEN SOURCE Bulawayo) its dead in Bulawayo so anyone who can help us please do we are still at school so resources are problem please help xolani On 11/06/07, sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org <sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org> wrote: > > Send SFD-discuss mailing list submissions to > sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sfd-discuss-request(a)sf-day.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sfd-discuss-owner(a)sf-day.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SFD-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: hello and t-shirt cost (Robert Schumann) > 2. CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams (Robert Schumann) > 3. Re: CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams (Matthew Macdonald-Wallace) > 4. Re: CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams (Melissa Draper) > 5. RE: CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams (Douglas A. Whitfield) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:52:37 +0100 > From: "Robert Schumann" <robert(a)softwarefreedomday.org> > Subject: Re: [SFD-discuss] hello and t-shirt cost > To: "Open discussions about SFD" <sfd-discuss(a)sf-day.org> > Message-ID: > <d58237a20706110152y7f33d592u7f56c6f3a079c822(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Douglas, > > The sfd-announce list is generally pretty low-traffic, particularly when > we're more than three months from SFD. Traffic will probably start to pick > up soon, though.... > > Regarding T-shirts, we're aiming to have the sales website up within about > two weeks. Speaking entirely non-authoritatively, so don't quote me, I > believe the T-shirt price may be around US$12. The small profit we make on > selling the shirts goes to help us send supplies to all the teams around > the > world. > > Anyway, it's great to have you signed up and we hope you organise some > great > SFD events in North Carolina. Feel free to stay in touch with us and with > other teams from around the globe via this mailing list. > > Robert. > > On 10/06/07, Douglas A. Whitfield <whitdoug(a)email.unc.edu> wrote: > > > > All, > > > > I just signed up for this list today since no messages have come out of > > the sfd-announce since I joined it about a month ago. My group's site > > is http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/teams/northamerica/ChapelHill. We > > are looking to purchase about $100 of the t-shirts if the price is > > right. I know the page says the shirts are being worked on, but do we > > have an estimated cost? > > > > This group is a new group begun this spring, so this obviously our first > > SFD. None of us had actually even heard of SFD until May 8th! We hope > > we can get similar events started at other local universities (Duke and > > NC State) as well as some other places we have ties (NCSSM and > > Gardner-Webb University). Any questions, comments or concerns are very > > welcome! > > > > Thank you, > > -- > > Douglas A. Whitfield > > > > UNC SILS MSIS Class of '08 > > Cell: 919-360-0306 > > AIM: DouglasAWh > > > > Carolina Open Source Initiative Co-President > > Carolina-opensource(a)listserv.unc.edu > > http://www.softwarefreedomday.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SFD-discuss mailing list > > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > > >

June 11, 2007

RE: [SFD-discuss] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Douglas A. Whitfield

We at COSI were looking forward to not buying the CDs ourselves, but the video idea is interesting because we were planning on partnering with our local Free Culture organization (http://freeculture.org/) and the Creative Commons license (or however the videos, etc. are licensed) would be of interest to them. Hopefully we can get some money for CDs from local sponsors. Dell is on board here, but we don't know for how much yet. Douglas A. Whitfield IT Student Assistant Mon, Wed, Thurs 9-5 until July 30th Development Office 208 West Franklin Street, CB# 6100 The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Office (Server Room): 919-843-3226 Cell: 919-360-0306 Carolina Open Source Initiative Co-President Carolina-opensource(a)listserv.unc.edu http://softwarefreedomday.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/cosi _____ From: sfd-discuss-bounces(a)sf-day.org [mailto:sfd-discuss-bounces@sf-day.org] On Behalf Of Robert Schumann Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:36 AM To: Team discussions about SFD Cc: sfd-announce(a)sf-day.org; info(a)softwarefreedomday.org Subject: [Spam:11.3] [SFD-discuss] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams The organisers of Software Freedom Day have been discussing making some changes to the supplies we will be making available to SFD teams this year. Last year we helped Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, send shipments of Ubuntu CDs to teams, and teams once again have the opportunity to request Ubuntu CDs when they register this year. We have also been intending this year to ship copies of The Open CD ( http://theopencd.org/) which was supplied to teams in 2005 - and when teams register this year, they are offered the opportunity to specify how many of The Open CD they would like to receive. However, for various reasons we would like to avoid shipping The Open CD this year. The major reason is cost: although the cost per team might only be US$10 or US$15, when you have hundreds of teams registered that becomes a lot of money. Software Freedom International (the organisation behind SFD) has very limited funds and we believe this is not an effective use of those funds. What we are proposing instead is to send teams 1. One CD or DVD containing open source documentaries, interviews, music and any other open resources we can get hold of 2. A single copy of The Open CD, which can be replicated by teams if they wish to distribute this software 3. ...as well as the usual T-shirts and a few other little items! Another part of the reason for this proposed change is to make available to teams (including teams in parts of the world where internet connectivity is not great) a set of resources that can be used to convey the message of software freedom (for example, interviews with some leaders in the FLOSS world). These resources could then also be used to put together your own documentary or shown at other software freedom events you may plan ( e.g. for a campus fair at your college, or an IT exhibition). Before making this change, we wanted to hear feedback from you, the team leaders and FLOSS enthusiasts from around the world. So please do get in touch with us to let us know what you think (about this change, and about our proposed team supplies) and ask any questions you may have. You can either chat with other SFD participants on the SFD-discuss mailing list (you need to be a member: join at http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss <http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss> ) or you can send your comments/questions direct to the SFI board at info(a)sf-day.org. We are specifically interested in 1. suggestions for resources to be put on the CD/DVD (which must be under an open license). 2. whether your team would have a problem using a DVD and you'd prefer a CD. Looking forward to hearing from you, Robert. PS - Three months left to go before SFD! How are your preparations going?

June 11, 2007

Re: [SFD-discuss] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Melissa Draper

Robert Schumann wrote: > The organisers of Software Freedom Day have been discussing making > some changes to the supplies we will be making available to SFD teams > this year. > > Last year we helped Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, send > shipments of Ubuntu CDs to teams, and teams once again have the > opportunity to request Ubuntu CDs when they register this year. We > have also been intending this year to ship copies of The Open CD ( > http://theopencd.org/) which was supplied to teams in 2005 - and when > teams register this year, they are offered the opportunity to specify > how many of The Open CD they would like to receive. So the version of TheOpenCD would be the 2005 version or would it be the current one? > > However, for various reasons we would like to avoid shipping The Open > CD this year. The major reason is cost: although the cost per team > might only be US$10 or US$15, when you have hundreds of teams > registered that becomes a lot of money. Software Freedom International > (the organisation behind SFD) has very limited funds and we believe > this is not an effective use of those funds. Why not have an option for teams to cover the shipping if they still want a batch? It would still be cheaper than buying them elsewhere? I for one would take this option if it were offered. > > What we are proposing instead is to send teams > 1. One CD or DVD containing open source documentaries, interviews, > music and any other open resources we can get hold of > 2. A single copy of The Open CD, which can be replicated by teams if > they wish to distribute this software > 3. ...as well as the usual T-shirts and a few other little items! > > Another part of the reason for this proposed change is to make > available to teams (including teams in parts of the world where > internet connectivity is not great) a set of resources that can be > used to convey the message of software freedom (for example, > interviews with some leaders in the FLOSS world). These resources > could then also be used to put together your own documentary or shown > at other software freedom events you may plan ( e.g. for a campus fair > at your college, or an IT exhibition). > > Before making this change, we wanted to hear feedback from you, the > team leaders and FLOSS enthusiasts from around the world. So please do > get in touch with us to let us know what you think (about this change, > and about our proposed team supplies) and ask any questions you may > have. You can either chat with other SFD participants on the > SFD-discuss mailing list (you need to be a member: join at > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss > <http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss>) or you can send > your comments/questions direct to the SFI board at info(a)sf-day.org > <mailto:info@sf-day.org>. We are specifically interested in > 1. suggestions for resources to be put on the CD/DVD (which must be > under an open license). > 2. whether your team would have a problem using a DVD and you'd prefer > a CD. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you, > Robert. > > PS - Three months left to go before SFD! How are your preparations going? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SFD-discuss mailing list > SFD-discuss(a)sf-day.org > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss -- Sincerely Melissa Draper http://www.meldraweb.com Phone: 0404 595 395 (intl): +61 404 595 395 P.O Box 1412 Lavington, NSW 2641

June 11, 2007

Re: [SFD-discuss] CDs to be dispatched to SFD teams

by Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:36:13 +0100, "Robert Schumann" <robert(a)softwarefreedomday.org> wrote: > Before making this change, we wanted to hear feedback from you, the team > leaders and FLOSS enthusiasts from around the world. So please do get in > touch with us to let us know what you think (about this change, and about > our proposed team supplies) and ask any questions you may have. You can > either chat with other SFD participants on the SFD-discuss mailing list > (you > need to be a member: join at > http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/sfd-discuss) or you can send your > comments/questions direct to the SFI board at info(a)sf-day.org. We are > specifically interested in > 1. suggestions for resources to be put on the CD/DVD (which must be under > an > open license). > 2. whether your team would have a problem using a DVD and you'd prefer a > CD. Sounds like a fair plan to me, I'm sure that there's a video of RMS talking about GPL/FOSS etc that's open source, also the recent BBC episode of CLICK (http://www.bbc.co.uk/click) mentions Ubuntu and other OSS (but I'm not sure how well it does this!) Would it be possible for the DVD to contain ISOs of Ubuntu, EdUbuntu, TheOpenCD, Knoppix, SLED[0] etc? That way we'd only need one disk and could get all the distros from it! I'm hoping to build some sort of freedom toaster for the event, so if I can just copy a load of ISOs from a disk to the HDD, that would be great! Cheers, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk) Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/) Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/)

June 11, 2007