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Re: [Dillo-dev] Re: how do i unsubscribe?

by Patrick Shanahan

* Andrew A. Gill <superluser(a)frontiernet.net> [07-03-06 19:34]: > Yes, I know that I'm a few weeks late to comment on this, but I > genuinely HATE HATE HATE these unsubscribe requests. > > So here's a quick thing on how to unsubscribe: amazing how much information can be found in an email header: List-Id: For dillo web browser developers <dillo-dev.dillo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev>, <mailto:dillo-dev-request@dillo.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: </pipermail> List-Post: <mailto:dillo-dev@dillo.org> List-Help: <mailto:dillo-dev-request@dillo.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev>, <mailto:dillo-dev-request@dillo.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: dillo-dev-bounces(a)dillo.org Errors-To: dillo-dev-bounces(a)dillo.org -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

July 4, 2006

Re: how do i unsubscribe?

by Andrew A. Gill

Yes, I know that I'm a few weeks late to comment on this, but I genuinely HATE HATE HATE these unsubscribe requests. So here's a quick thing on how to unsubscribe: <http://www.things.org/~jym/fqa/unsubscribe.html> How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List By Jym Dyer I'm on a lot of electronic mailing lists. A deluge of "unsubscribe" and "take me off this list" messages on multiple lists inspired the following, which I send out whenever it's needed. The feedback I get tells me it's useful. When you send "unsubscribe" requests to an email list, it lands in the mailboxes of hundreds of people who can't unsubscribe you. I can't unsubscribe you. Try the stuff below. Clip 'n' save these instructions for future reference. =============8<=============Cut-Here=============8<============= How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List 1. Look at the messages you've been getting on the list. Do they have "how to unsubscribe" messages near the end, or an email address to use in a "List-Unsubscribe:" header at the top? If so, follow those instructions. 2. Most lists these days, including all lists hosted by the big two (Yahoo! Groups and Topica), have an "-unsubscribe" alias for this purpose. For example, if you're on the WHATEVER list, either WHATEVER-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com or WHATEVER-unsubscribe(a)topica.com would be the right address to use. (For the rest of this memo, let's assume that the WHATEVER list is at example.com -- that is, the alias is WHATEVER(a)example.com. If the list has a name like "WHATEVER-L", you might try steps 6 and 7 first.) 3. Otherwise, first send a request to the "-request" alias. For our example, that would be WHATEVER-request(a)example.com. This is often read by a human being, so write accordingly. In theory, all email lists are supposed to implement this address (though Yahoo! Groups does not). 4. If you get no response from the above, send mail to the "majordomo" alias. That's majordomo(a)example.com for our example. If the list is administered by the majordomo software, you'll get instructions for unsubscribing mailed back to you. 5. If you get no response, send mail to the "owner-" alias. For our example, owner-WHATEVER(a)example.com. This should go to the human who administers the list. 6. If you get no response, send mail to "LISTSERV". For our example, that address would be LISTSERV(a)example.com. The text of your message should be "SIGNOFF WHATEVER". 7. If you get no response, send mail to the "listproc" alias. For our example, that address would be listproc(a)example.com. The text of your message should be "unsubscribe WHATEVER". 8. If you get no response, send mail to the site "postmaster". For our example, that address is postmaster(a)example.com. Mention that you tried the previous five steps, to no avail. 9. If you get no response, send mail to "root". Our example address is root(a)example.com. Mention that you tried the previous six steps, to no avail. 10. If -- and only if -- all the above fail, send a message to the list itself. Make it courteous, particularly since the vast majority of the people reading it can't do a thing about it. The message should say something like, "How do I get off this list?", not "UNSUBSCRIBE." Try to avoid setting off a bunch of "me too" messages by saying something like, "Please don't chime in with a bunch of 'I want to unsubscribe too' messages." It's ridiculous that there are so many different ways to do this, and consequentially, so many email lists cluttered up with "UNSUBSCRIBE/ME TOO" messages. You'd think there'd be a standard of sorts, and there is: the "-request" alias dates back to the early days of the Internet. Smart systems like majordomo actually (1) handle messages that were sent to the "-request" alias and (2) filter out the "UNSUBSCRIBE/ME TOO" messages. It's a shame that newer stuff has come along that doesn't do either of these things, but since it's on the web, people seem excited about it (gee whiz!) even though it's a huge step backwards in technology. The "-unsubscribe" alias is a newer standard that's starting to gain ground, but that's no help for many of the older lists that haven't gotten around to implementing new features.

July 3, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] how do i unsubscribe?

by Kelson Vibber

Right here: http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev There's an unsubscribe form at the bottom of the page.

June 12, 2006

how do i unsubscribe?

by mike obrien

most of the time, i have no idea what tf you guys are talking about. mike

June 12, 2006

Doubt...

by Sandesh Sethia

Hello everyone, This is my first post on this group. I am a novice programmer who wanted to know that can I use GTKDFB for creating a PNG image of any window (browser especially) delivered to the GTKDFB toolkit through a C++ program ? Please someone do let me know at the earliest..... Thanks Sandesh

June 12, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by newman.x＠seznam.cz

> BTW, please send me some latin2 URLs for development tests. > > -- > Cheers > Jorge.- Hi Jorge, http://www.root.cz/ http://www.abclinuxu.cz/ http://www.wp.pl/ should be fine. Michal

May 30, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:58:03PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > Dear Dillo developers, > > I have been using Dillo since about 0.2.x, and would like to > start this email with "Hail Caesar and everything". Thank you! > > I am really looking forward to the day I replace Firefox with > Dillo completely. These are the reasons I won't do it today: > > 1. Internally, Dillo uses GTK1, which, internally, uses LATIN1. > As I am Czech, the last lines of my install process would be > > $ make install > $ strings src/dillo | grep iso8859 > $ sed -e 's/iso8859-1/iso8859-2/g;' < ./src/dillo > ~/bin/dillo > > which happens to work. I suppose that the transition to FLTK > will make me able to vies pages in other charsets too. BTW, please send me some latin2 URLs for development tests. -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi, On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 10:46:56PM +0300, Joonas Saarinen wrote: > One of my wishes would be to have some limit for the cache growing > endlessly. I run Dillo on a old Libretto 100CT (166MHz/32MB) and if surfing > for long periods (especially when viewing large images) the system goes on > knees swapping and eventually Dillo gets killed for hogging all the memory. > :S Of course there's generally a lot of work to do on the browser and this > feature might require significant changes to the code (?)... Not that hard! Just look inside cache.c and add a remove function for images when the cache size surpasses a certain threshold. An algorithm/heuristic that pleases a diverse group of users is much more difficult. You have to care about not removing images that are currently being displayed (e.g. when using multiple Dillo windows, or removing an image that's being displayed in a page that loads lots of images). Al this blurb reduces to a ref count. -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi Jan, On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:58:03PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > Dear Dillo developers, > > I have been using Dillo since about 0.2.x, and would like to > start this email with "Hail Caesar and everything". Thank you! Thanks for the recognition. > > I am really looking forward to the day I replace Firefox with > Dillo completely. These are the reasons I won't do it today: > > 1. Internally, Dillo uses GTK1, which, internally, uses LATIN1. > As I am Czech, the last lines of my install process would be > > $ make install > $ strings src/dillo | grep iso8859 > $ sed -e 's/iso8859-1/iso8859-2/g;' < ./src/dillo > ~/bin/dillo > > which happens to work. ... and also breaks iso8859-1 support. > I suppose that the transition to FLTK > will make me able to vies pages in other charsets too. Yes. This is the main point. > > This problem is adressed in > http://teki.jpn.ph/pc/software/index-e.shtml#dillo-i18n > (Are you guys considering any of the patches included in that?) No. I've explained several times that this patches break some internal things in Dillo (as entities, forms, other charsets etc). In the meanwhile I consider this patches a good thing to have in an unofficial branch because the benefits from being able to read your own language sometimes are bigger than broken things with others. The real solution is to have Dillo use utf-8 internally and to convert other encodings to it. This is what we have with dillo FLTK2 (and something that GTK1 doesn't provide. BTW, this is also one of the main reasons for GTK2 existence). Bottom line: we do care about other languages and we're working towards a universal solution for it. > 2. Lack of CSS support. I am aware of > http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.0-css-3.tar.gz (which, BTW, > needs to have a few syntax errors fixed before it compiles, see PS). > However, it doesn't do much - looking at http://www.dillo.org won't > even let me click on the links. We've done a lot in this respect. All the internal structures for Dw are designed with CSS in mind. The problem is we don't have the funds to have the main developer of Dw working full time on this. --It's frustrating. > 3. Dillo does not have tabbed browsing. I know it's just a convenience, > not really related to fast rendering and stuff, but this convenience > is just so ... you know, convenient :-) This is also patched into > http://teki.jpn.ph/pc/software/index-e.shtml#dillo-i18n > > After these issues are resolved, you have a converted Firefox user > (not that I would use anything else but Dillo for e.g. reading > documentation). Quite simple to add! I've focused my time on making the FLTK2 prototype work though. > OTOH, don't waste your time on frames and javascript, everybody > knows it's evil. GREAT! I really wish this line of thought was predominant! (although it wouldn't be that hard to implement). -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by Joonas Saarinen

One of my wishes would be to have some limit for the cache growing endlessly. I run Dillo on a old Libretto 100CT (166MHz/32MB) and if surfing for long periods (especially when viewing large images) the system goes on knees swapping and eventually Dillo gets killed for hogging all the memory. :S Of course there's generally a lot of work to do on the browser and this feature might require significant changes to the code (?)...

May 27, 2006