February 2007 - Dillo-dev - lists.mailman3.com

Re: [Dillo-dev] PledgeBank ?

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi Vincent, On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:30:39PM +0100, Vincent Thomasset wrote: > Le Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:56:47 -0300, > Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> a écrit : > > > Hi Vincent, > > > > Raising some funds, and to create awareness of what the current > > status of the Dillo project is, looks like a good idea. It would > > be important to let the readers know that we seek funds to be > > able to quit our jobs and to dedicate full time to work on Dillo > > for at least a year (when hopefully we could have secured some > > enterprise funding to continue). > > > > This is simply a too fast a moving target for two developers > > to chase working after hours. > > I understand all of this, but i doubt the pledge could pay for this > all by itself. BTW, how much money do you think we should be aiming > for ? I thought about going with 10$ pledges but i'm not sure how many > between 1000, 2500 or 5000, 1000 probably being the reasonable choice. 20$ to reach 5000. At least that could give hope to being able to work again on it. The cost of life is not very high in Chile and donations may help. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Feb. 25, 2007

Web page update

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi there, As said sometime ago in this mailing list, I went to update the front page of Dillo's site to let our users know what the current status of the project is, and what we're doing/expecting. It is just a small section under the "Project Objectives". Please give it a read and send your feedback here if any. I know the "funding" link would benefit from an update, but sometime ago it was quite current and as it yielded no results, I'm not sure it to be worth the effort anymore ;-). Perhaps an alternative way could work better. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Feb. 25, 2007

FLTK2 port to DirectFB

by Diego .

It seems that somebody is working on the port of FLTK2 to DirectFB http://www.fltk.org/newsgroups.php?gfltk.development+v:4889 I do not get to compile it, but i hope that somebody can. (It is in a very early stage yet) Nothing more, good bye. Diego.

Feb. 16, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] Port/package for Nokia 770 / N800

by Frédéric Bothamy

* Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> [2007-02-15 09:38] : > On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 12:18:03PM +0000, Anuj Verma (Kevin) wrote: > > Hello list, > > Hi. > > > I am curious to know if there is a package of Dillo for Nokia 770 or N800 ? > > Not AFAIK. > > > > Will someone be please interested to contribute one ? > > > > Refer: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800 > > http://maemo.org > > Yes, me! (if Nokia is interested in sponsoring such endeavour) > > Are you telling me the N800 doesn't come with a web browser? Unfortunately for you, there is already a web browser in the N800, a trimmed-down version of Opera 8 which supports Flash (v7 only, I believe), CSS and Javascript (cf. http://www.nokiausa.com/N800/1,9008,feat:1,00.html) I believe that these features are mandatory for the official Nokia web browser. OTOH I would be very interested by this port and I think it would be worthwile as the default web browser is quite slow on complicated webpages (on my N770). Fred

Feb. 15, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] Port/package for Nokia 770 / N800

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 12:18:03PM +0000, Anuj Verma (Kevin) wrote: > Hello list, Hi. > I am curious to know if there is a package of Dillo for Nokia 770 or N800 ? Not AFAIK. > Will someone be please interested to contribute one ? > > Refer: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800 > http://maemo.org Yes, me! (if Nokia is interested in sponsoring such endeavour) Are you telling me the N800 doesn't come with a web browser? If this is the case, it may be time to talk to Nokia again... -- Cheers Jorge.-

Feb. 15, 2007

Port/package for Nokia 770 / N800

by Anuj Verma (Kevin)

Hello list, I am curious to know if there is a package of Dillo for Nokia 770 or N800 ? Will someone be please interested to contribute one ? Refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800 http://maemo.org Cheers, Kevin

Feb. 11, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] PledgeBank ?

by Vincent Thomasset

Le Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:56:47 -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> a écrit : > Hi Vincent, > > Raising some funds, and to create awareness of what the current > status of the Dillo project is, looks like a good idea. It would > be important to let the readers know that we seek funds to be > able to quit our jobs and to dedicate full time to work on Dillo > for at least a year (when hopefully we could have secured some > enterprise funding to continue). > > This is simply a too fast a moving target for two developers > to chase working after hours. I understand all of this, but i doubt the pledge could pay for this all by itself. BTW, how much money do you think we should be aiming for ? I thought about going with 10$ pledges but i'm not sure how many between 1000, 2500 or 5000, 1000 probably being the reasonable choice. > We're looking for interested developers to work on Dillo. This > is also key to the success of the project. This is the kind of > developer that not only sends patches but that contributes to the > core of it. > > Sometime ago I asked in this list for interested developers and > got only one answer for a "patch-developer" so to speak. Again, i'm really interested in Dillo's future, but i can't make any hard commitment to it's development... > I like FOSDEM!, was once there, and there're lots of different > people attending it. From technical to management. If you can > pass the above ideas (more or less deatiled in my previous posts > too) with a broad target scope, it could certainly help the > project, and we'd appreciate that. Unfortunately, i'm not sure i will attend the FOSDEM. My idea was to put together the posters with a quick description of Dillo and links to the website and the pledge. I will have to take care of this next week or so and contact the FOSDEM people to check if i can put posters in some rooms or interesting spots. Cheers, Vincent

Feb. 9, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] PledgeBank ?

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 06:52:55PM -0600, R.L. Horn wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > - Dw was ported to C++ (some new capabilities, similar API). > > - HTML/text/script parser was ported to C++. > > I'm sorry to hear that. If the plan is a general switchover to C++, I'll > have to back out. I don't do C++, Java, etc. for free -- it's just not > worth the aggravation. > > Hell, I've just discovered that FLTK2 (r5642) won't even build with my > current compiler/linker combination. Sorry, life's too short for this > kind of crap. Believe it or not, I have a similar feeling about C++, and try to avoid it as much as I can. Now, FLTK2 is a good toolkit (trying to use a small subset of C++'s bloat), and there were parts of Dillo that needed to be ported to it, but is mainly as C-ish as it was before. Although I still have to try to convince Sebastian to a smallest C++ feature set in Dw. Not much of his fault, maybe he didn't have an option, with C++ you have the curse of templates. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Feb. 8, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] [marco@hep.uchicago.edu: Re: Dillo not compiling]

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi Livio!!!! Really good news to know you're around! On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:48:42PM -0500, Livio Soares wrote: > Hi Marco, > > Marco Mambelli writes: > > Hi Livio, > > Thank you, I added glib-devel and gtk+-devel > > > > autogen and configure are fine now. > > Nice. > > > In compilation there are some warning (signedness mainly) and errors in > > downloads.cc compilation: > > if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include > > -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -g -O2 -MT downloads.o -MD > > -MP -MF ".deps/downloads.Tpo" -c -o downloads.o downloads.cc; \ > > then mv -f ".deps/downloads.Tpo" ".deps/downloads.Po"; else rm -f > > ".deps/downloads.Tpo"; exit 1; fi > > downloads.cc:34:22: error: fltk/run.h: No such file or directory > > downloads.cc:35:25: error: fltk/Window.h: No such file or directory > > downloads.cc:36:25: error: fltk/Widget.h: No such file or directory > > downloads.cc:37:25: error: fltk/damage.h: No such file or directory > > ... and many other errors depending probably on the missing files > > (undefined variables, scope problems, ...) > > > > I installed fltk and fltk-devel libraries but this did not solved the > > problem. > > Unfortunately, this isn't very well documented, but you actually > need FLTK 2, to allow the download DPI to work. If I remember > correctly (Jorge can correct me if I'm wrong), compiling the download > DPI is optional (--disable-dlgui, I think, was the configure option). You're right: --disable-dlgui compiles with the old (silent) downloader. > > So, you can either forget about the download DPI, find RPMs for > FLTK2 (both library and -devel), or build/install FLTK2 yourself. Kelson has made very good RPMs. I'm using one of them in a Scientific Linux machine, it comes with FLTK2 downloader dpi, and works great. > Now, don't you just _love_ recursive build dependences ;P ;-) -- Cheers Jorge.-

Feb. 8, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] PledgeBank ?

by R.L. Horn

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > - Dw was ported to C++ (some new capabilities, similar API). > - HTML/text/script parser was ported to C++. I'm sorry to hear that. If the plan is a general switchover to C++, I'll have to back out. I don't do C++, Java, etc. for free -- it's just not worth the aggravation. Hell, I've just discovered that FLTK2 (r5642) won't even build with my current compiler/linker combination. Sorry, life's too short for this kind of crap.

Feb. 8, 2007