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issues & suggestions

by sandshrew＠gmail.com

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:29:48 +0000 "corvid" <corvid(a)lavabit.com> wrote: > Tomas wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:46:48 +0000 > > "corvid" <corvid(a)lavabit.com> wrote: > > > > > Tomas wrote: > > > > > > 8) Also I am really missing "Copy current URL location" > > > > > > which is present in links-hacked right-click menu. Maybe > > > > > > this could be added to dillo too? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it may be handy. > > > > > Do you use it to drop the URL into a full blown browser? > > > > No, to copy the link to some forum message or e-mail. > > > > > > Is copying it out of the location bar more difficult? > > > > > As nor Control+C, nor middle clicking on the selected URL seems to > > copy it for me in fluxbox it becomes a bit more difficult. > > (perhaps I'm revealing my ignorance when it comes to fluxbox, but...) > how about triple-clicking or highlighting it? > Triple-clicking and highlighting using mouse cursor (highlighting using Shift + Left/right key (or home/end) doesn't) does copy it. Thanks for suggestion. -- Brain: an apparatus with which we think we think. - A. Bierce

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Tomas wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:46:48 +0000 > "corvid" <corvid(a)lavabit.com> wrote: > > > Tomas wrote: > > > > > 8) Also I am really missing "Copy current URL location" which is > > > > > present in links-hacked right-click menu. Maybe this could be > > > > > added to dillo too? > > > > > > > > Yes, it may be handy. > > > > Do you use it to drop the URL into a full blown browser? > > > No, to copy the link to some forum message or e-mail. > > > > Is copying it out of the location bar more difficult? > > > As nor Control+C, nor middle clicking on the selected URL seems to copy > it for me in fluxbox it becomes a bit more difficult. (perhaps I'm revealing my ignorance when it comes to fluxbox, but...) how about triple-clicking or highlighting it?

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by sandshrew＠gmail.com

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:46:48 +0000 "corvid" <corvid(a)lavabit.com> wrote: > Tomas wrote: > > > > 8) Also I am really missing "Copy current URL location" which is > > > > present in links-hacked right-click menu. Maybe this could be > > > > added to dillo too? > > > > > > Yes, it may be handy. > > > Do you use it to drop the URL into a full blown browser? > > No, to copy the link to some forum message or e-mail. > > Is copying it out of the location bar more difficult? > As nor Control+C, nor middle clicking on the selected URL seems to copy it for me in fluxbox it becomes a bit more difficult.

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Tomas wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:35:49 -0300 > Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> wrote: > > Couldn't you just copy some code from the patch used with old dillo? > Patched source here -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/dillo . I'm not sure that "just" is quite the right word for it. > > > 8) Also I am really missing "Copy current URL location" which is > > > present in links-hacked right-click menu. Maybe this could be added > > > to dillo too? > > > > Yes, it may be handy. > > Do you use it to drop the URL into a full blown browser? > No, to copy the link to some forum message or e-mail. Is copying it out of the location bar more difficult?

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by sandshrew＠gmail.com

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:35:49 -0300 Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> wrote: > > 7) Let's say I typed sth in a text field, then changed my mind > > and want to go to previous page. The thing is, I can't do that using > > keyboard shortcut anymore (I have to click BACK button with mouse). > > Escape keyboard key could "escape" from the text field and enable > > keyboard navigation in this case. > > Yes you can. Press TAB to get out of the location bar, and then > use the keyboard shortcut for Back or Forward. Not the location bar but text field in some form. -- Brain: an apparatus with which we think we think. - A. Bierce

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by sandshrew＠gmail.com

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:57:05 +0000 "corvid" <corvid(a)lavabit.com> wrote: > Tomas wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 01:16:45AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > > Tomas wrote: > > > > 1) When trying to login to gmail I get a big ugly warning > > > > saying: "Non standard meta refresh tag". The "here" link > > > > doesn't work. gmail basic html view works ok with links-hacked > > > > & elinks. So, I guess, that shouldn't be hard to fix. > > > > > > If I enable cookies for mail.google.com and enable https, > > > the "here" link gets me to a login screen. > > > > > > > So if I understand correctly, you go to gmail, try to login, get > > the "non standard meta refresh tag. The author wanted you to go > > here" message, click on "here" and you are back to square one - > > login paga? Is that correct? If that's the case, it's a bug anyway. > > In my case, even I have cookies & https enabled, clicking on "here" > > link doesn't do anything. > > Ah, maybe these are different "here" links. > I meant one that went from gmail.com to mail.google.com. > I don't have an account, so I don't know anything past the login > screen. > Well, registration is quick & having GOOGLE account doesn't hurt... -- Brain: an apparatus with which we think we think. - A. Bierce

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by sandshrew＠gmail.com

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:35:49 -0300 Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 06:22:59PM +0300, Tomas R wrote: > > > > First of all would like to thank you for this great little web > > browser. You are doing a really good job. Keep it up! :) > > :) > > I'd like to know why you consider it great, > and what you use it for. > It starts instantly, loads pages also pretty fast, has tabs, anti-aliasing, persistent cookies, ssl, smooth scrolling, unicode & many other encoding support, bug meter, nice download manager and most importantly NO stupid flash & other ads. Even currently I am pretty used to links-hacked, but that might change soon :) Compared to dillo2, links-hacked still uses less resources, has handy one button keyboard shortcuts for most things, very basic javascript support and frame support, but its grey background is kinda depressing, you have to right click on a link to some download and choose "download link" to save it, sometimes you have to click twice on a link for it to start loading it, manually refresh pages and jumping through form fields with <tab> key doesn't work. > > [...] > > 2) With the latest dillo2 version (I think this bug was introduced > > only recently, as I tested dillo2 from cvs not so long ago & it > > wasn't present) the menu is "teared off" when pressed. Here is a > > screenshot: > > http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5211/dillomenuxu9.png > > and dillorc I use: > > http://pastebin.com/f42244f75 > > Not a bug but a feature! > > The detached menu allows for two things: > > 1.- Popup menu working with Alt-F shortcut even when the "File" > item is hidden. > 2.- Simpler code and improved panel configuraion flexibility. Even from dev's perspective it might seem as a feature but from user's - it's an ugly bug. > > 3) What happened to frame support? dillo 0.8.6 was able to display > > them without any problems. > > Frame support never was inside official dillo. > It may be added in the near future, provided an interested > developer commits to help with it. > > (most probably we'll be more focused on CSS, and bug fixes). Couldn't you just copy some code from the patch used with old dillo? Patched source here -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/dillo . > > 3) Both history & bookmarks could be saved in sqlite db. > > We aim to be light, fast and low on dependencies. > You can easily get dillo bookmarks from ~/.dillo/bm.txt, > it's a text file that mainly has lines like this: > > <section> <URL> <TITLE> Sqlite is lightweight, used by many browsers & no additional dependencies are required after the source is compiled. > > 6) When closing dillo with multiple tabs open, it always asks if I > > really want to do that. There could be an option "Don't ask again" > > like in other browsers. > > Surprising! ??? > > 8) Also I am really missing "Copy current URL location" which is > > present in links-hacked right-click menu. Maybe this could be added > > to dillo too? > > Yes, it may be handy. > Do you use it to drop the URL into a full blown browser? No, to copy the link to some forum message or e-mail. > BTW, please bear in mind that we need more manpower (i.e. > developers). Currently our current plans are more than enough > workload. Now, if some handy suggestions (like some of these) are > easy to implement, we'd be glad to help. > I understand. Hope someday in the future to send you some patches. Here are few more suggestions that might be useful: 9) Currently html bug window takes whole screen - I think the old behaviour when it was shown in a small window is better. 10) Because of the lack of CSS support, many text fields a rendered unusable (i.e. http://versme.net/blog/?p=618 or http://www.klubas.lt/tv/article.php?id=18837168 ). Resizable text areas feature would be pretty handy. 11) tabs could be extended to the whole screen width - that way more information would be displayed and selecting the needed tab with mouse would be easier. Here is a screenshot showing this behavior in unofficial dillo version: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5195/dillotabs2uj9.png -- Brain: an apparatus with which we think we think. - A. Bierce

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Tomas wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 01:16:45AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > Tomas wrote: > > > 1) When trying to login to gmail I get a big ugly warning saying: "Non > > > standard meta refresh tag". The "here" link doesn't work. gmail basic > > > html view works ok with links-hacked & elinks. So, I guess, that > > > shouldn't be hard to fix. > > > > If I enable cookies for mail.google.com and enable https, > > the "here" link gets me to a login screen. > > > > So if I understand correctly, you go to gmail, try to login, get the "non standard meta refresh tag. The author wanted you to go here" > message, click on "here" and you are back to square one - login paga? Is that correct? If that's the case, it's a bug anyway. In my > case, even I have cookies & https enabled, clicking on "here" link doesn't do anything. Ah, maybe these are different "here" links. I meant one that went from gmail.com to mail.google.com. I don't have an account, so I don't know anything past the login screen. Hmm. Today I'm not getting any gmail.com->mail.google.com meta refresh. It's redirecting to the login screen using the Location header. cookies.txt is empty, cookiesrc disables everything, and the cookies dpi is not running. (Yesterday, clicking on the meta refresh link would get hung up in redirections, so I had to allow cookies)

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by joerg.sonnenberger＠web.de

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 01:08:36AM +0000, corvid wrote: > I think the idea is that we don't want to render application/xhtml+xml when > we wouldn't be guaranteeing that it's valid. I wouldn't go as far. Just don't advertise it as support to servers. Joerg

Oct. 19, 2008

issues & suggestions

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 06:22:59PM +0300, Tomas R wrote: > > First of all would like to thank you for this great little web browser. > You are doing a really good job. Keep it up! :) :) I'd like to know why you consider it great, and what you use it for. > [...] > 2) With the latest dillo2 version (I think this bug was introduced only > recently, as I tested dillo2 from cvs not so long ago & it > wasn't present) the menu is "teared off" when pressed. Here is a > screenshot: > http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5211/dillomenuxu9.png > and dillorc I use: > http://pastebin.com/f42244f75 Not a bug but a feature! The detached menu allows for two things: 1.- Popup menu working with Alt-F shortcut even when the "File" item is hidden. 2.- Simpler code and improved panel configuraion flexibility. > 3) What happened to frame support? dillo 0.8.6 was able to display them > without any problems. Frame support never was inside official dillo. It may be added in the near future, provided an interested developer commits to help with it. (most probably we'll be more focused on CSS, and bug fixes). > 4) Some keyboard shortcuts are missing. I didn't find shortcuts for: > Home, Stop, Save, bookmark current page. Right, that set doesn't have a keyboard shortcut yet. > Suggestions: > 2) History and address autocompletion (which could come with history) > imho is needed a lot. Could be. > 3) Both history & bookmarks could be saved in sqlite db. We aim to be light, fast and low on dependencies. You can easily get dillo bookmarks from ~/.dillo/bm.txt, it's a text file that mainly has lines like this: <section> <URL> <TITLE> > 4) web page source code could be searchable and code highlighting could > be added too. Searching source code is planned (most probably as a dpi). Some Highlighting may be added too. > 6) When closing dillo with multiple tabs open, it always asks if I > really want to do that. There could be an option "Don't ask again" like > in other browsers. Surprising! > 7) Let's say I typed sth in a text field, then changed my mind > and want to go to previous page. The thing is, I can't do that using > keyboard shortcut anymore (I have to click BACK button with mouse). > Escape keyboard key could "escape" from the text field and enable > keyboard navigation in this case. Yes you can. Press TAB to get out of the location bar, and then use the keyboard shortcut for Back or Forward. > 8) Also I am really missing "Copy current URL location" which is > present in links-hacked right-click menu. Maybe this could be added to > dillo too? Yes, it may be handy. Do you use it to drop the URL into a full blown browser? BTW, please bear in mind that we need more manpower (i.e. developers). Currently our current plans are more than enough workload. Now, if some handy suggestions (like some of these) are easy to implement, we'd be glad to help. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Oct. 19, 2008