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RE: [Dillo-dev] FLTK

by Eric Gaudet

> Please back your opinions with links, docs, facts or with > whatever helps better to understand the point. Maybe a single > email can show there's no way to do it, or maybe not! > Two applications I used to run regularly when they were on gtk1.2 were ported to gtk2.0: pan and edonkey2000-gtk. I'm not using them anymore, because their rendering became painfully slow: scrolling the lists down takes several seconds to refresh on my 300MMX laptop. After doing some research, is seems that Pango is the culprit: rendering unicode needs some advanced graphic operation also slows down any text rendering. As I yet have to see a fast application using it, I would recommend NOT going with gtk2.0 for Dillo. Best, Eric

Oct. 14, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] FLTK

by Madis Janson

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > * Does it provide C bindings, or is for C++ only? C++ only, although event callbacks are done using C style function pointers http://www.fltk.org/documentation.php/doc-2.0/intro.html#2_1 commented fltk example program http://www.fltk.org/documentation.php/doc-2.0/editor.html#editor > * Does it have a table widget or similar to GTK+'s layout? http://www.fltk.org/documentation.php/doc-2.0/Fl_Pack.html#Fl_Widget http://www.fltk.org/documentation.php/doc-2.0/Fl_Group.html#Fl_Group > * Unicode and antialiasing support status? antialiasing yes. unicode support - seems, that it currently needs a patch for unicode support http://www.fltk.org/links.php?V111 google found this http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/53707

Oct. 14, 2003

FLTK

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, David Martin wrote: > Jorge, > > I would like to quickly comment on the todo list. > > [Snip] > > *Future Goals* (these may change in the future) > Port dillo to GTK+2.0 > > [/Snip] > > IMHO considering Dillo's concentration on speed and stability, it seems > like it would be more appropriate to port the future Dillo to fltk not > fat bloated GTK2.0. > > I would expect that a staticly compiled Dillo-fltk binary would be > considerably smaller then a dynamically compiled Dillo-GTK2 binary. > > > Food For Thought. The FLTK idea is certainly an insteresting issue to analize. The porting task would be far from simple (if possible at all). Dillo does not only uses GTK+ for the user interface but for HTML rendering. Dillo has its own widget system (Dw), that's embedded inside GTK+ widgets, and that at its turn can also embedd GTK+ widgets again. This is the core of the porting problem. The main reason for porting dillo to GTK+2 (instead of sticking to 1.2.10) is Unicode support (explained in the [Project Notes] link). And yes, I've been somewhat scared by the size of GTK+2. For instance in Slackware it jumps from 4Mb to 17Mb! Now, considering that FLTK has Unicode support, gathering more information becomes an interesting thing to do. I don't know FLTK :(, but here is a list with some preliminary concerns (AFAIK): * Does it provide C bindings, or is for C++ only? * Does it have a table widget or similar to GTK+'s layout? * Can it be extended with Dw in the way stated above? * Unicode and antialiasing support status? Please don't get me wrong. This email is just a RFC to make a more informed decision on the issue. The current plan is to go with GTK+2, but if this path shows better, things can change. This is also an RFC for information on GTK+2 (speed, size, linkings etc). Please back your opinions with links, docs, facts or with whatever helps better to understand the point. Maybe a single email can show there's no way to do it, or maybe not! Cheers Jorge.-

Oct. 14, 2003

Development

by Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela

Hi everyone It sems i lost a lot of the development cycle, now even plugins are implemented! Anyways, here is my wasted effort with dillo-0.7.3: * Fixed dpi.c capi.c, to handle launching multiple dpis via url, example dpi:/bm/ will launch bookmarks plaugs, dpi:/cfg/ will launch the configuration plugin. * Worked on dpilib a bunch of code to initialize comunications from a dpi to dillo, it works pretty well, also handles tag params, and url passed vars. * ddm_srv.c Dillo Download Manager, a download plugin using wget, will be able to download multiple files and show their progress in dpi:/ddm/downloads * cfg_srv.c Configuration, It can tweak a bunch of options for Dillo and DDM. Way back about a month i worked on a plugin daemon too. But with current changes i maded the daemon is not necesary, also dillo can load plugins if necesary. Any comments?, anyone wants the patches? Anyway, cheers. Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Net: La mejor conexión a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes.

Oct. 14, 2003

PLEASE CONTACT ME

by Mr. George Rhoney

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Oct. 13, 2003

PLEASE CONTACT ME

by Mr. George Rhoney

Dear Friend, I am an accountant and a member of the Contract Tender Board (CTB) of the Petroleum, Oil & Gas Corporation of South Africa (PTY) Ltd also known as PetroSA. I am presently on a special diplomatic duty in the South Africa foreign office in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. I got your contact through discreet inquiries in my search for a reliable individual or company who can handle a strictly confidential transaction that involves the transfer of a reasonable sum of money to a foreign account. I have no doubt in your ability to handle a financial business of considerable amount, which will form the bedrock of an extensive business partnership in due course. In unfolding this proposal, I want to count on your status that you will handle this transaction with all maturity and confidentiality it deserves. The money we want to transfer to you amount to a total of US$15.500,000.00 (Fifteen Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) only. It was extracted from various over-invoiced contracts, masterminded by myself and some of my colleagues for our mutual benefit when the contracts was awarded by the Contracts Tender Board (CTB) of the Petroleum, Oil & Gas Corporation of South Africa (PeTROSA) Ltd. The above over-invoiced sum has been drafted and short-listed for final payment to a foreign bank account and it has been reflected as an amount to be paid to a foreign contractor for contract that has been executed for the Petroleum, Oil & Gas Corporation of South Africa (PTY) Ltd. The money is currently floating in the suspense account of the South Africa Reserve Bank (SARB) awaiting claim by a foreign partner, which status we absolutely want you to assume. The code of conduct bureau in South Africa has made it an offence for civil servants like us to(A) operate a foreign account (B) own a foreign company and (C) take up contract while still in active service. This is why we need your assistance. Now is the optimum period to realize this fund following the recent directive given to all-federal parastatals and corporations to pay off all foreign debts. I therefore seek your assistance to allow the remittance of this fund to be made to your personal or companys bank account. We have agreed that 30% of the total sum will be given to you, 65% will be for me and my colleagues and 5% for any expenses that maybe incured during this transaction, after the successful transference of the fund to your bank account. I want to assure you that all modalities for the successful transfer of this money to your account has been perfectly worked out and as such, there is no fear of failure. However, I would want to believe that you are honest enough and will not raise any misgiving attitude in any aspect of the transaction. Most importantly, you will keep this transaction very confidential so as not to tarnish the confidence reposed on these officials by the nations financial house. If this business proposal interest you, kindly indicate your willingness to me through email or by phone (+ 31-619-310-577) for immediate commencement of the transaction. To enable this fund to be successfully transferred to your account, you will also have to provide the following information: 1.Your company name and address that you wish to use as the beneficiary to claim the fund. 2.Your private telephone, fax Numbers. 3.Your Bank name, address and account number where you would want the money remitted. More information about the remittance of the fund to your account will be sent to you when I receive your response. Meanwhile, your swift response will help to meet the ultimatum given to all foreign contractors in this payment quarter to ensure that funds are claimed. We also wish to discuss investment strategy with you. We have the plan of investing part of our fund in real estate with your assistance in your country. Please, treat this information as confidential. Yours faithfully, Mr.George Rhoney.

Oct. 13, 2003

table-layour revisited

by Ralph Slooten

Hi there all, I posted a while back a bug-report to which I got no reply. This may have been due to me not making myself clear. I'll try again When making a table with a specific width all GUI browsers render this the same, like: <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="800"> This gives a table looking like this <--- 800px ---> ------------------------------------------ |table contents | ------------------------------------------ This is no problem with Dillo and other browsers, as they are exactly the same. However when cellpadding and cellspacing are used, like: <table cellpadding="10" cellspacing="10" width="800"> the table should look like this <--- 800px ---> ------------------------------------------ | | | table contents | | | ------------------------------------------ Dillo renders this still incorrectly, by _expending_ the table in width looking like this <--- 820px ---> ---------------------------------------------- | | | table contents | | | ---------------------------------------------- Why is this? Many sites use tables to gain a specific layout in all browsers which I credit them for, but this page layout is altered by this (what I believe to be a) bug. Or am I incorrect as to the specs of html and tables? Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ "...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux"

Oct. 10, 2003

[RFC] Configurable keybindings

by Frank de Lange

Hi'all, In my quest for keyboard navigation (which works quite well by now btw) I have come upon Dillo's current inability to define custom keyboard bindings (except for menu bindings). GTK+ offers a mechanism to implement user-configurable keyboard mappings (Bindings) which could be used to add this feature to Dillo. I have made a sample implementation using bindings for GtkDwScrolledFrame, which shows the mechanism to work as it should. The resulting object code is slightly smaller than in the current CVS version, but the source is larger (mainly because of the huge list of 'gtk_binding_entry_add_signal9...0 calls for every key combination). To use the mechanism, widgets need to have signals defined for all user actions. In GtkDwScrolledFrame's case this meant adding "viewport_move" (which replaces the unused user_hchanged and user_vchanged signals), "cursor_move", "cursor_hide" and "cursor_activate" (the latter three for keyboard navigation; it is debatable whether these signals belong in GtkDwScrolledFrame or should move to GtkDwViewport). Keybindings are assigned through GTK+ rc-files or through the dillorc. As an example, this configuration (in gtkrc) uses the numerical keypad for link navigation: binding "keypad-keys" { bind "KP_Add" { "cursor_move" (0) } bind "KP_Subtract" { "cursor_move" (1) } bind "KP_8" { "cursor_move" (2) } bind "KP_2" { "cursor_move" (3) } bind "KP_4" { "cursor_move" (4) } bind "KP_6" { "cursor_move" (5) } bind "KP_Enter" { "cursor_activate" () } } class "GtkDwScrolledFrame" binding "keypad-keys" This one (in dillorc, note the enclosing double quotes and the preference name key_bindings) makes Dillo behave like the vi editor when it comes to link navigation: key_bindings = "binding 'vi-keys' { bind 'k' { 'cursor_move' (2) } bind 'j' { 'cursor_move' (3) } bind 'h' { 'cursor_move' (4) } bind 'l' { 'cursor_move' (5) } } class 'GtkDwScrolledFrame' binding 'vi-keys'" (numerical values after "cursor_move" are actually GTK enumeration values, but the current implementation does not support this. It would of course look much better to be able to write "cursor_move" (GTK_DIR_DOWN) instead of "cursor_move" (3)...) Now I could just add this functionality to the keyboard_navigation patch, or put it in a separate patch. However, since there seems to be some animosity against adding yet even more configuration options, I'd like to know if there is any interest in this feature. If not, I'll just keep things as they are and hardcode some sane defaults (ie. something I like...). In that case, those who want to change keyboard bindings can do it the way they have always done by hacking the source. Any suggestions? Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

Oct. 10, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dpid

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi Nicolas and David! On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Nicolas Pouillon wrote: > Hi Jorge, > > Le Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:57:48 -0400 (CLT) > Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> eut le bonheur d'ecrire: > > > Hi there! > > > > Just made a big commit on dpid > > I just wanted to try it out but... > > dpid/Makefile.am references a bin_SCRIPT named dpidc, which is nowhere > to be found, am I getting some point wrong ? My fault, I forgot to add "dpidc" (a tiny PERL script that soon will become a C program). Sorry, and thanks for the report. I hope this time it works! Cheers Jorge.- PS: There's no need to CC' me. I read dillo-dev! :)

Oct. 9, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dpid

by Nicolas Pouillon

Hi Jorge, Le Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:57:48 -0400 (CLT) Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> eut le bonheur d'ecrire: > Hi there! > > Just made a big commit on dpid I just wanted to try it out but... dpid/Makefile.am references a bin_SCRIPT named dpidc, which is nowhere to be found, am I getting some point wrong ? -- Nipo

Oct. 9, 2003