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Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environmen t?

by Ken Wolcott

Hi Stephen; That was **EXACTLY** the problem! I moved ~/.dillorc to be ~/.dillo/dillorc...Works fine now! Thanks, Ken On Wednesday 12 November 2003 14:35, Stephen Lewis wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:18:38PM -0600, Ken Wolcott wrote: > > Hi Thorben; > > > > If my proxy server refuses to resolve requests coming from the dillo > > web > > > browser, it doesn't make any sense for it not to refuse requests from > > the > > > mozilla web browser. The proxy settings are identical. One of them > > exists > > > in the ~/.dillorc and the other exists in the mozilla advanced proxy > > setting > > > preferences. So, it looks to me like dillo doesn't like my ~/.dillorc > > and > > > isn't telling me that there's a problem. Mozilla works fine, dillo > > doesn't, > > > the proxy settings are the same. > > Hi, I think I just noticed the root of your problem. > > You're using a ~/.dillorc file. What dillo actually wants is a > ~/.dillo/dillorc file, I don't think it is using the file at > ~/.dillorc at all :) > > Another method is to set the "http_proxy" environment variable, > which many console progams like wget tend to honour > > Hope that helps.

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Victor Sahlstedt

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:18:38 -0600 Ken Wolcott <ken.wolcott(a)med.ge.com> wrote: > [...] The proxy settings are identical. One of > them exists in the ~/.dillorc and the other exists in the mozilla > advanced proxy setting preferences. So, it looks to me like dillo > doesn't like my ~/.dillorc and isn't telling me that there's a > problem. Mozilla works fine, dillo doesn't, the proxy settings are > the same. Well, the dillorc provided in the Dillo-tarball should recide in ~/.dillo/ - i.e. the path should be ~/.dillo/dillorc and NOT ~/.dillorc - Victor

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Kelson Vibber

At 12:18 PM 11/12/2003, Ken Wolcott wrote: > If my proxy server refuses to resolve requests coming from the dillo web >browser, it doesn't make any sense for it not to refuse requests from the >mozilla web browser. The proxy settings are identical. One of them exists >in the ~/.dillorc and the other exists in the mozilla advanced proxy setting >preferences. So, it looks to me like dillo doesn't like my ~/.dillorc and >isn't telling me that there's a problem. Mozilla works fine, dillo doesn't, >the proxy settings are the same. The impression I get from the earlier posts is not that your proxy server is not resolving requests from Dillo, but that Dillo is not sending requests to the proxy server. As Thorben stated: > Dillo does not support those either, it needs the actual address and port > of the proxy. So if you use the IP address or a name listed in /etc/hosts, it sounds like it should work. (I've never used a proxy with Dillo, I'm just basing this on what I've read today.) Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Ken Wolcott

On Wednesday 12 November 2003 13:53, Thorben Thuermer wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:43:34 -0600 > > Ken Wolcott <ken.wolcott(a)med.ge.com> wrote: > > Hi Thorben; > > > > Thank you for your response. > > > > Yes, I didn't make myself very clear unfortunately, and I realized that > > some time after having sent the email msg. > > > > I did a diff of the supplied dillorc and my ~/.dillorc. The only line > > that differed was the extra line (copied http_proxy) that I had enabled > > with the correct URL for the proxy. What I provided in the email was the > > line that diff'd after it had been "sanitized". > > > > I had an "Automatic proxy configuration URL" set up for mozilla > > originally which is different than a "Manual proxy configuration" > > (http://ip:port) syntax. I decided to change the way the proxy was > > configured in mozilla to the form needed by dillo. It works fine. > > Dillo does not support those either, it needs the actual address and port > of the proxy. > as long as your dillo tries to dns resolve the host of the url you enter, > it is for some reason NOT using a proxy at all. > > > Are you saying that dillo under a proxy expects the proxy server to do > > all dns resolution? If that's the case, then why is galeon, mozilla, > > konquorer, netscape and opera working correctly under the proxy where > > dillo does not? I'm using the same proxy for all the web browsers I just > > mentioned. > > sorry, but: THIS IS HOW PROXY SERVERS WORK! > > the browsr forwards the proxy the request > "get me http://www.dillo.org/" > (to be exact: GET http://www.dillo.org/ HTTP/1.0") > and the proxy returns the page/image/resource, or a error. > > > Thanks, > > Ken > > greetings, > Thorben Hi Thorben; If my proxy server refuses to resolve requests coming from the dillo web browser, it doesn't make any sense for it not to refuse requests from the mozilla web browser. The proxy settings are identical. One of them exists in the ~/.dillorc and the other exists in the mozilla advanced proxy setting preferences. So, it looks to me like dillo doesn't like my ~/.dillorc and isn't telling me that there's a problem. Mozilla works fine, dillo doesn't, the proxy settings are the same. Ken

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Thorben Thuermer

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:43:34 -0600 Ken Wolcott <ken.wolcott(a)med.ge.com> wrote: > Hi Thorben; > > Thank you for your response. > > Yes, I didn't make myself very clear unfortunately, and I realized that some > time after having sent the email msg. > > I did a diff of the supplied dillorc and my ~/.dillorc. The only line that > differed was the extra line (copied http_proxy) that I had enabled with the > correct URL for the proxy. What I provided in the email was the line that > diff'd after it had been "sanitized". > > I had an "Automatic proxy configuration URL" set up for mozilla originally > which is different than a "Manual proxy configuration" (http://ip:port) > syntax. I decided to change the way the proxy was configured in mozilla to > the form needed by dillo. It works fine. Dillo does not support those either, it needs the actual address and port of the proxy. as long as your dillo tries to dns resolve the host of the url you enter, it is for some reason NOT using a proxy at all. > Are you saying that dillo under a proxy expects the proxy server to do all > dns resolution? If that's the case, then why is galeon, mozilla, konquorer, > netscape and opera working correctly under the proxy where dillo does not? > I'm using the same proxy for all the web browsers I just mentioned. sorry, but: THIS IS HOW PROXY SERVERS WORK! the browsr forwards the proxy the request "get me http://www.dillo.org/" (to be exact: GET http://www.dillo.org/ HTTP/1.0") and the proxy returns the page/image/resource, or a error. > Thanks, > Ken greetings, Thorben

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Re: [RFC] Quo Vadis Dillo

by Thorben Thuermer

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:36:34 -0500 Eythan Weg <weg(a)indiscrete.org> wrote: > > How about horizontal/vertical split of a tab. One > use for it is being able to compare side by side > different parts of the same document. at the point where you find that you also want you text editor side-by-side with dillo to edit your page and consider integrating one with dillo, you should notice that this is probably the wrong level to solve the problem at... such things seem less like a feature to add into a specific application, (ands to be repeated in each new application!) but ask for a more more general system, for example a windowmanager feature. <offtopic><plug> a windowmanager that implements such features is ion: http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/ while it's different managment models probably take time to get used to, it's perfect for such tasks. i made screenshots of a split dillo example: http://users.auriga.wearlab.de/~r00t/sidebyside-1.png http://users.auriga.wearlab.de/~r00t/sidebyside-2.png </plug></offtopic> > Eythan Greetings, Thorben

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Ken Wolcott

Hi Thorben; Thank you for your response. Yes, I didn't make myself very clear unfortunately, and I realized that some time after having sent the email msg. I did a diff of the supplied dillorc and my ~/.dillorc. The only line that differed was the extra line (copied http_proxy) that I had enabled with the correct URL for the proxy. What I provided in the email was the line that diff'd after it had been "sanitized". I had an "Automatic proxy configuration URL" set up for mozilla originally which is different than a "Manual proxy configuration" (http://ip:port) syntax. I decided to change the way the proxy was configured in mozilla to the form needed by dillo. It works fine. Are you saying that dillo under a proxy expects the proxy server to do all dns resolution? If that's the case, then why is galeon, mozilla, konquorer, netscape and opera working correctly under the proxy where dillo does not? I'm using the same proxy for all the web browsers I just mentioned. Thanks, Ken On Wednesday 12 November 2003 13:08, Thorben Thuermer wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:53:45 -0600 > > Ken Wolcott <ken.wolcott(a)med.ge.com> wrote: > > Hi; > > > > Dillo looks interesting. However I can't go anywhere with it as I am > > under a proxy environment. I saw that the default dillorc has a > > commented-out section for http_proxy. I copied the default dillorc to be > > my ~/.dillorc and started dillo again. > > you DID uncomment the http_proxy line and edit it to insert YOUR proxy's > address? > > (using a local wwwoffle proxy on my notebook) > $ grep -i proxy .dillo/dillorc > # Set the proxy information for http > http_proxy=http://localhost:8080/ > no_proxy = "wl localhost" > > note that plain dillo does currently NOT support proxy authentication. > > >I noticed that the chatter from dillo no longer > > complained about a missing .dillorc, yet I am still unable to go to any > > URL. The message on the web browser was: "Error: Dns: can't resolve > > http://linuxtoday.com". I get the same basic error message when trying > > to go to www.perl.com or http://www.perl.com. I am able to go to these > > web sites using other web browsers such as mozilla, galeon, opera, > > netscape and konqueror. Each one of those I had to set a proxy > > preference. Perhaps my proxy setting has incorrect syntax? Enclosed is > > the chatter from dillo and the .dillorc (proxy setting has obviously been > > sanitized). > > > > Thanks, > > Ken > > > > prompt> dillo > > Nav_open_url: Url=>http://linuxtoday.com/< > > Dns_server [0]: linuxtoday.com is (nil) > > when using a proxy, dillo would never try to resolve the DNS > of the URL you entered, but only connect to the proxy host: > > $ dillo > Enabling cookies as from cookiesrc... > Connecting to 127.0.0.1 > > Greetings, > Thorben > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Thorben Thuermer

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:53:45 -0600 Ken Wolcott <ken.wolcott(a)med.ge.com> wrote: > Hi; > > Dillo looks interesting. However I can't go anywhere with it as I am under > a proxy environment. I saw that the default dillorc has a commented-out > section for http_proxy. I copied the default dillorc to be my ~/.dillorc and > started dillo again. you DID uncomment the http_proxy line and edit it to insert YOUR proxy's address? (using a local wwwoffle proxy on my notebook) $ grep -i proxy .dillo/dillorc # Set the proxy information for http http_proxy=http://localhost:8080/ no_proxy = "wl localhost" note that plain dillo does currently NOT support proxy authentication. >I noticed that the chatter from dillo no longer > complained about a missing .dillorc, yet I am still unable to go to any URL. > The message on the web browser was: "Error: Dns: can't resolve > http://linuxtoday.com". I get the same basic error message when trying to go > to www.perl.com or http://www.perl.com. I am able to go to these web sites > using other web browsers such as mozilla, galeon, opera, netscape and > konqueror. Each one of those I had to set a proxy preference. Perhaps my > proxy setting has incorrect syntax? Enclosed is the chatter from dillo and > the .dillorc (proxy setting has obviously been sanitized). > > Thanks, > Ken > prompt> dillo > Nav_open_url: Url=>http://linuxtoday.com/< > Dns_server [0]: linuxtoday.com is (nil) when using a proxy, dillo would never try to resolve the DNS of the URL you entered, but only connect to the proxy host: $ dillo Enabling cookies as from cookiesrc... Connecting to 127.0.0.1 Greetings, Thorben

Nov. 12, 2003

Re: [RFC] Quo Vadis Dillo

by Eythan Weg

Frank de Lange writes: > Eythan Weg wrote: > >>How about horizontal/vertical split of a tab. One >>use for it is being able to compare side by side >> different parts of the same document. >> > No, that sounds like something which can easily be achieved using a > frameset. No need for special code in Dillo for that... > > <frameset cols="*,*"> > <frame src="doc1.html"> > <frame src="doc2.html"> > </frameset> > > Make a form which feeds two urls to a frameset page like that. Presto, > two documents side by side. > Yes, but... inconvenient and besides it blends the user with the page designer. Consider, perhaps, an implementation of your suggestion done on the fly. For now I prefer to open a second dillo's window when such a need arises. > Cheers//Frank Sincerely, Eythan

Nov. 12, 2003

dillo won't resolve URLs under a proxy environment?

by Ken Wolcott

Hi; Dillo looks interesting. However I can't go anywhere with it as I am under a proxy environment. I saw that the default dillorc has a commented-out section for http_proxy. I copied the default dillorc to be my ~/.dillorc and started dillo again. I noticed that the chatter from dillo no longer complained about a missing .dillorc, yet I am still unable to go to any URL. The message on the web browser was: "Error: Dns: can't resolve http://linuxtoday.com". I get the same basic error message when trying to go to www.perl.com or http://www.perl.com. I am able to go to these web sites using other web browsers such as mozilla, galeon, opera, netscape and konqueror. Each one of those I had to set a proxy preference. Perhaps my proxy setting has incorrect syntax? Enclosed is the chatter from dillo and the .dillorc (proxy setting has obviously been sanitized). Thanks, Ken **************snip********************** prompt> cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) prompt> which dillo dillo is /usr/bin/dillo ptompt> dillo --version Dillo 0.7.3 /msa3530> prompt> dillo Setting locale to C... dillo_dns_init: Here we go! Disabling cookies. Nav_open_url: Url=>about:splash< Nav_open_url: Url=>http://linuxtoday.com/< Dns_server [0]: linuxtoday.com is (nil) Dillo: normal exit! /prompt> **************snip********************** **************snip********************** http_proxy=http://my_ip:my_port/ **************snip**********************

Nov. 12, 2003