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Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo RPMs updated, Mandrake version available

by Kelson Vibber

At 08:35 AM 6/25/2003, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > Jorge, would it be appropriate to also use the new toolbar icons, or would > > you prefer I waited until the next official release? > > I'd prefer it to appear in the next release. OK. I'll wait, then. > BTW, do you have some download stats for the RPMs? Here are the statistics for June, as of last night: ==== "Official" RPMs available all month ==== 254 dillo-0.7.2-2.rh9.i386.rpm 187 dillo-0.7.2-2.src.rpm 165 dillo-0.7.2-2.rh8.i386.rpm 158 dillo-0.7.2-2.rh7.i386.rpm ==== New "Official" RPMs posted yesterday === 5 dillo-0.7.2-3.src.rpm 4 dillo-0.7.2-3.mdk.i586.rpm ==== "Unofficial" RPMs with patches ==== 12 dillo-0.6.6-4.i386.rpm 10 dillo-0.7.2-1+remote.rh9.i386.rpm 7 dillo-0.7.2-1+remote.src.rpm 5 dillo-0.6.6-4.src.rpm 4 dillo-0.7.2-1+remote.rh7.i386.rpm Of course, what's most interesting is the first section, and the indication of how quickly people have been upgrading to Red Hat 9. Of those looking for Red Hat-specific RPMs, fully 44% grabbed the one for the latest version. What I'd really like to know is the breakdown of those that grabbed the source RPMs: how many just want it built locally (to get an i686.rpm or athlon.rpm), how many are trying it on older versions of Red Hat, and how many are trying to get it to work on another distribution (and which ones). Maybe I'll put up a small poll next to the download link or something. Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

June 25, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] The Dillo web browser and GTK+ (fwd)

by Melvin Hadasht

Jorge wrote on Fri 20 Jun 2003 19:41:36 CEST: > Can someone please forward this to gtk-list(a)gnome.org. > I sent it once and as I'm not a member it was held for aproval, > but it never made its way in. :( > > If someone here is a member, please send it. > If someone knows the answer, better! I'm subscribed to <gtk-app-devel-list(a)gnome.org>, I'm forwarding your questions there as no one seems to be subscribed to gtk-list(a)gnome.org. I think posting there is not off-topic. I'll let you know about any answers I get. -- Melvin Hadasht

June 25, 2003

Re: [Patch] Search feature and more

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi Johan, > Hi! > I've made a few small changes to Dillos interface which I think > improves the browsing experience. The attached tar file contains the > changes separated into three diffs (against todays cvs version) and a > README which I also append to this mail. I hope you'll find them > useful and add them to a future release of dillo. I'd be happy to > answer any questions, comments or suggestions. Although I'm with little time now, I managed to review the patches; they look clean, that's good. Here go my comments. (I'll contact you in the future when I have more time). > dillo-search.diff: > - * Added search feature to location entry/open url. ("s key words...") > (BUG#473) Very interesting, and certainly easy to use. Unfortunately it comes with a kind of interface that's out of the cognitive model behind Dillo's UI. In simple terms it means that users will have to learn how to use it from the help file and that it's not quite oobvious from the GUI and that it is different from what you come to expect when using dillo. The search problem had been in my mind for some time, so I know it is necesary to do something about it. I think that a small icon (like "clear URL box"), shaped as a magnifier, can pop up a dialog (like "Open URL"), but for search. If we add a short-cut for it (Ctrl-s), and the option to hide the icon (as with the rest of the interface icons), it integrates better with the user interface model. > * Added 'search_url' to dillorc. Perfect. The rest of the patch is quite OK! > dillo-accel.diff: > - * Added keyboard shortcuts to > - reload (Ctrl+R). > - full screen (F11). > - select all text in location entry (F8). > - focus location entry (Ctrl+Shift+L) > (BUG#474) > > Files affected: interface.c > > This patch adds a few useful keyboard shortcuts which eases mouse less > browsing. > Most browsers have a focus-and-select the location entry shortcut (Ctrl-L in > mozilla, F8 in opera). I tried to get some feedback on if this was the desired > behaviour for dillo by posting the mailing list, but no one seemed very > interested. I therefore settled on a two shortcut solution; F8 selects all > text and Ctrl-Shift-L just focuses the location entry. In this way you can > easily modify an existing url or just enter a new one without the use of > the open url dialog. > > As I wanted the F8 key to work also within the location entry I had to add > a key press handler to the main window (the existing one just handles > key presses within the view port (docwin)). I decided on this solution since > adding a handler to the location entry didn't seem right and moving the > docwin key press handler to the main window didn't work as this handler gets > called before a text widgets default handler (and thus a backspace in a > html form would trigger back). > > Perhaps a better solution would be two plain accelerators; one for the > clear-location button and one to just focus the location entry. This way > there'd be no need for an extra key press handler. But I figure that > a "global" key press handler may be needed in the future. Am I wrong? > > Maybe Ctrl+L would be a better shortcut to select all text in the location > entry and Ctrl+Shift+L the shortcut to open an open url dialog (as in > Mozilla), but I didn't dare changing the default behaviour without > getting some feedback first. I think: - reload (Ctrl+R). - full screen (F11). could be easily agreed into a short-cut key. The problem is that everybody comes with his favorite set of shortcuts (you'd be amazed to look in my Mailbox!). OTOH this is not rare; evreyone uses some different apps. and get accustomed to different key combinations. I prefer to take Havoc's approach on this: http://www.dillo.org/ui-prefs-tips.html > dillo-focus.diff: > - * Made main document window grab focus on startup and after open url. > (BUG#330) > > Files affected: interface.c > > This is just a two line patch which implements the behaviour found in other > browsers as mozilla and opera. Makes mouse less browsing easier. Well, this is a long time unsolved problem for us :(. Please give a read to my last post about it: http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/pipermail/dillo-dev/2003-June/000770.html If you can make a temporary subscription and send it to the GTK+ list, it'd be a great favor to us. In the meanwhile (or if the post gets no answer), I think your approach will make it into the source as a workaround. Note that if we solve this, it becomes easy to focus the location box (or viewport) in tyhe standard GTK+ way: TAB/ShiftTAb Cheers Jorge.-

June 25, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo RPMs updated, Mandrake version available

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Kelson, > [...] > http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo.html > > I will probably be making another RPM release in the next few days, > patching the splash page to point to www.dillo.org. (In the plain 0.7.2 > release, it still points to the wearlab.de site.) > > Jorge, would it be appropriate to also use the new toolbar icons, or would > you prefer I waited until the next official release? I'd prefer it to appear in the next release. BTW, do you have some download stats for the RPMs? Cheers Jorge.-

June 25, 2003

Save Link as File dialog

by Albert Wagner

How might I change the "Save Link as File dialog" so that the default directory is something other than ~ ?

June 25, 2003

Save Link as File dialog

by Albert Wagner

How might I change the "Save Link as File dialog" so that the default directory is something other than ~ ?

June 25, 2003

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June 25, 2003

Dillo RPMs updated, Mandrake version available

by Kelson Vibber

Last night I added a Mandrake 9.1 partition and built a Dillo RPM for Mandrake. I made a few changes to put the Dillo menu item and icon in the appropriate place for Mandrake's menus. The SRPM now detects when it's being built on a Mandrake system and places menu info in /usr/lib/menu. Otherwise, it uses /etc/X11/applnk (as before). http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo.html I will probably be making another RPM release in the next few days, patching the splash page to point to www.dillo.org. (In the plain 0.7.2 release, it still points to the wearlab.de site.) Jorge, would it be appropriate to also use the new toolbar icons, or would you prefer I waited until the next official release? Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

June 24, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Entities &#ascii_equivalent; behavior question in dilo 0.7.2

by Kelson Vibber

At 08:10 AM 6/24/2003, Ronald W. Henderson wrote: >I'm new to dillo. I have compiled version 0.7.2 on redhat v9.0. It seems to >work ok. I noticed that when displaying the google home page >(http://www.google.com) I get the following html source displayed for >"&#ascii_equivalent" entities: > >Examplr: In front of "Advanced Search" I get "• Advanced Search". This is a known issue with 0.7.2. I believe it has been fixed in the current CVS version, so it should work correctly in the next release. Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

June 24, 2003

Entities &#ascii_equivalent; behavior question in dilo 0.7.2

by Ronald W. Henderson

Folks: I'm new to dillo. I have compiled version 0.7.2 on redhat v9.0. It seems to work ok. I noticed that when displaying the google home page (http://www.google.com) I get the following html source displayed for "&#ascii_equivalent" entities: Examplr: In front of "Advanced Search" I get "• Advanced Search". Question is this normal behavior? Do I have a configuration issue? Thanks in advanced... ---Ronald W. Henderson

June 24, 2003