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[Dillo-dev]XML browser

by dillo-dev＠moshe.nl

Hello, For some time now i'm looking for an XML browser, witch is simply able to show XML documents. XML capable browsers that exist today do not suit my (and others who extencively use XML) needs. Their XML implementation is based on top of their html implementation, witch makes it incapable of many standard XML features and also makes them bloated. During my search I began to cave into the dillo source, and found the dillo widget system. Witch seems to be a good rendering system for digital documents, not just html. XML parsers already exist (libxml for example), and parsing XML is a lot easier than parsing html, because it has a much more strict syntax. An XML browser, maybe more acuratly named an XML viewer, is just as abstract as XML itself. It has no way to know how a partucular XML document has to be show'ed. For this purpose XSLT exists, it is able to "translate" any XML document into another. Thus creating a XML viewer is limited to being able to render one particular type of XML document, and having XSLT documents available to translate the rest. Luckily something like glade exists. Glade is an GUI development kit, using XML to describe the GUI's, and GTX+ to show them. Dillo widgets are an extention to GTK+, meanig glade can show them. Leaving the "problem" to creating the XSLT stylesheets te translate documents to glade-XML. The dillo widget is currently inside the dillo source, and only linked directly to dillo. how posible is it to seperate this, and have dillo widget inside a .so for example? As such an XML browser is not really aimed at the same goals als the dillo project (as far as i've read, correct me if i'm wrong), i'd apriciate the dillo widget into a seperate library. this way dillo and this XML browser both can use the same dillo widget system, without forcing me to include dw vith the XML browser. (and sync them constantly) I'm still only planning, so i'd like any comments on this idea, as well as tips and other ideas. maybe you also have comments on the level of integration dillo and the XML browser can have. Greetings, Môshe van der Sterre http://www.moshe.nl/ http://www.coecu.nl/ PS: Needless to say, i'm a little short on time, so my participation in any discussion might be low. PSS: I'll problably license the browser code itself GPL (just as dw), and the XSLT stylesheelts LGPL. As they might be usefull elsewhere. Mvg, Môshe van der Sterre http://www.moshe.nl/ http://www.coecu.nl/ Mvg, Môshe van der Sterre http://www.moshe.nl/ http://www.coecu.nl/

March 8, 2005

[Dillo-dev]dillo bug : not using the whole space

by Denis BUCHER

Hello ! I found another bug or problem in dillo : It doesn't use all the space provided ! For example, let's take a 320x240 screen/window (in full screen mode). If your content takes more than 305-310 pixels wide, the scrollbars are appearing, while they only should appear if your content is larger than "window size less borders", like 316... I hope my question is clear and thank anyone would could reply/help me :-) Denis -- Denis Bucher Horus Digital Solutions Each problem has a solution ______________________________________________________________________ Tél. +41-22-8000625 Fax: +41-22-8000622 www.horus.info

March 8, 2005

[Dillo-dev]Dillo centering elements

by Denis BUCHER

Hello ! I don't know if I didn't find which HTML tags were supported by dillo, or if it is a dillo bug or limitation, but I am totally unable to make dillo center something on the screen. I want to center an image, but centering the table containing the image or centering the contents in the table cell don't work. And I don't even speak about vertical centering. I even tryed with onepixel images, streched with <img width="20"> for example. Doesn't see to work either. Therefore my question is : How to achieve that (having dillo centering an image). Thanks a lot in advance ! Denis -- Denis Bucher Horus Digital Solutions Each problem has a solution ______________________________________________________________________ Tél. +41-22-8000625 Fax: +41-22-8000622 www.horus.info

March 8, 2005

Re: [Dillo-dev]Gmail

by Patrick Shanahan

* Nicolas Kaiser <nikai(a)nikai.net> [03-08-05 08:47]: ... > One thing that doesn't work for me: signing out gives me > > error: redirect loop for http://gmail.google.com/gmail Try copying the 'sign out' url onto the address line and <enter>. I have a similar problem with a heavy with extensions version of firefox. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery

March 8, 2005

Re: [Dillo-dev]Gmail

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 04:56:45PM -0500, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > I hadn't actually tried using Gmail with Dillo before, but I just heard > that Gmail recently implemented a "plain html" version and would thus > work on any browser. That inspired me to try it with Dillo and sure > enough it works. Maybe it always did, but it certainly does now. :-) Thanks Jonathan. This is very important news. Please test it throughly to be sure it works 100%. If that's confirmed it'd be worth to add a news item in our web site. After all, what could be faster than dillo as web mail? -- Cheers Jorge.-

March 8, 2005

[Dillo-dev][liamfoy sepulcrum org: Dillo, excellent work]

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi there, This comments make me happy! -- Cheers Jorge.-

March 8, 2005

Re: [Dillo-dev]Gmail

by Nicolas Kaiser

* Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org>: > This is very important news. Please test it throughly to be > sure it works 100%. If that's confirmed it'd be worth to add a > news item in our web site.

March 8, 2005

Re: [Dillo-dev]Gmail

by Riccardo Mottola

Hello, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > This is very important news. Please test it throughly to be > sure it works 100%. If that's confirmed it'd be worth to add a > news item in our web site. > > After all, what could be faster than dillo as web mail? I just compiled and packages 0.8.4 for MkLinux so I will use it and testit. But it is the plain version of Gmail that is very well done: it works really smooth with netscape 4.79 and looks good. They must have used skilled designers. Under ns 4.79 I notice the use of Javascript though (looking at the status bar) so I wonder what it really does, it may be that the "plain" version still detects and adatps to the capabilities of the browser. Cheers, R

March 8, 2005

[Dillo-dev]Gmail

by Jonathan Gardner

I hadn't actually tried using Gmail with Dillo before, but I just heard that Gmail recently implemented a "plain html" version and would thus work on any browser. That inspired me to try it with Dillo and sure enough it works. Maybe it always did, but it certainly does now. :-) Jonathan

March 5, 2005

[Dillo-dev]dillo bug : not using the whole space

by Denis BUCHER

Hello ! I found another bug or problem in dillo : It doesn't use all the space provided ! For example, let's take a 320x240 screen/window (in full screen mode). If your content takes more than 305-310 pixels wide, the scrollbars are appearing, while they only should appear if your content is larger than "window size less borders", like 316... I hope my question is clear and thank anyone would could reply/help me :-) Denis -- Denis Bucher Horus Digital Solutions Each problem has a solution ______________________________________________________________________ Tél. +41-22-8000625 Fax: +41-22-8000622 www.horus.info

March 4, 2005