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Re: [Dillo-dev] new unfinished code

by None

Hi Diego, On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:20:21PM +0200, Diego . wrote: > This start to seem like spam. Sorry. No need to apologize. This is quite on topic and a contribution to the project. The fact of having no active developers for some time is a separate issue (as I presume not much answers had come on the patch). > I have upload to my page unfinished code for a prefs dpi and my first > screenshot :). The patch do not change dillo code, but need dillo code to > compile. (dpi lib). > > The page is: > http://personales.ya.com/darkspirit/ > > > If i get time i will try to post some docs about mime code for > dillo(unfinished, unpublished, break, etc) and questions about internals of > dillo. I my experience it is best if you have some code that works cleanly and needs to be extended, rather than a big cloud that needs more work. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 30, 2007

new unfinished code

by Diego .

This start to seem like spam. Sorry. I have upload to my page unfinished code for a prefs dpi and my first screenshot :). The patch do not change dillo code, but need dillo code to compile. (dpi lib). The page is: http://personales.ya.com/darkspirit/ If i get time i will try to post some docs about mime code for dillo(unfinished, unpublished, break, etc) and questions about internals of dillo. Diego.

Sept. 29, 2007

Re: dillo

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi, On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 05:36:25AM -0700, j murphy wrote: > Jorge: > I hope that you and your collaborators are > well, and that your plans for releasing the new dillo > are still on track. Yes, still on track. > Despite the work being done on > other lightweight browsers like hv3 and Twibright > Labs' Links, I still prefer to use dillo, :-) > and I need > it for use on some of my older, slower machines that > have less memory, and are too slow with Firefox or > Opera. I'm writing to share with you a few problems > that I have noticed with dillo 0.8.6: I'll answer them below, but please just notice that the main problem we face now is lack of time from the main developers; we know about bugs, and have development plans, but we have no time or funds to quit our jobs and devote 100% to Dillo. > > 1)I often use a browser with tor ( https://tor.eff.org > ) and privoxy ( http://www.privoxy.org )for secure > browsing, and I was using dillo in this way, until I > noticed (through some of the useful diagnostics at > https://torcheck.xenobite.eu ) that dillo doesn't > route https traffic through my web proxy correctly -- > instead it seems to establish a direct connection, > bypassing the proxy, despite the http_proxy setting in > my dillorc file. Normal http traffic seems to be > handled correctly. Does the user need to set a > separate proxy for https traffic? Or does the proxy > handling in dillo have a bug? Dillo's https support is basic. It uses wget for this. You can set a proxy for wget and it should work. > 2)Also, I've had some trouble with dillo's > https.filter.dpi, which often sends an error message > stating that it can't verify a certificate repeatedly, > and sometimes launches multiple instances of itself > when attempting to connect to the same website > securely. This can occasionally lead to crashes in > which https.filter.dpi.core is dumped, and > occasionally brings down the browser as well. I > realize that this information is somewhat vague, but > if you'd like me to send a coredump next time it > occurs, I'll do so. Sad fact: it's a known bug. No need to send the core. The problem is that currently there's no cache for asking for a certificate, so a page with multiple https resources (e.g. images) asks several times for the same certificate flooding the communication socket. > > 3)The fltk downloader has one irritating glitch: when > attempting to save a file, if the user to change the > directory into which the file will be saved, the file > name is cleared, requiring the user to type it in > again, which wastes a lot of time. Yes! This one has bitten me too. This is the default behaviuor of that FLTK dialog. If I find some time and a simple way to change that, I'll fix it. > > 4)When dillo is closed, many of the dpis that were > spawned during a dillo session remain as zombie > processes, when they ought to be terminated along with > the parent dillo process. I realize that file > downloads may have to be handled carefully, and may > sometimes be required to remain open until completion, > even after the parent dillo is closed, but it seems to > me that no useful purpose is served by having the > other dpis remain after dillo is closed. dpidc stop That command tells them to quit. If they remain, that's a bug. > > 5)With the latest snapshots of fltk2 on my machine, > the downloader doesn't refresh itself properly when > multiple files are being downloaded. For instance, a > user starts one download, and the downloader gui is > spawned with a progress tracking entry in the > downloader gui for that particular download. Then the > user starts another download, but the progress > tracking entry for this second download, and for > subsequent downloads, is not displayed properly: it's > somehow underneath the first entry, and partially > obscured by it, so that control of the download or > tracking of it's progress isn't possible. Yes I noticed this too. This simple problems hopefully will be tackled by an interested developer when the code is released (before the end of September. Cross your fingers.). > I hope that this information will help you to improve > your new version of dillo, if these problems have not > already been addressed. If I can help, please let me > know. (Of course I'm a scientist, and not really a > developer, so don't expect miracles.) Yes, your bug report is concise and self explaining. Thanks for it. I wish I had the resources to work hands on in it now. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 17, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] 0.6% of people uses Dillo (poll said)

by Diego .

I sorry the delay in the reply. I was out a week for vacation (1000Km from my home). 2007/8/29, <>: > > Hi Diego, > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 03:28:55AM +0200, Diego . wrote: > > DesktopLinux.com has published the results of its anual (desktop)linux > poll. > > The interesting thing is in the 3rd question: Which web browsers do you > > frequently use on your Linux desktop(s)? > > > > > http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?view=archive&id=08132… > > > > The interesting thing is that a frozen project have enough users to win > over > > 3 fully developed browsers :) (optimistic without cure) > > Yoou made more than my day with that! I rejoice for you. > Are there news about dillo development? > > Yes there're. > > It is soothing to see your optimism and hopes for Dillo. > Sometimes we think with Sebastian that releasing the code may not > make a difference after all because we currently have no time to > devote, and if people don't develop themselves, there the code > will remain. I think that a change will happend, but to un-freeze a proyect need a lot of work. I hoppe that other people will help with it. First is to communicate the un-freeze then a delay will happend until people known and other for the people to make changes(patchs). I remember that a question was made in the list about a GTK2 dillo version so it can be included in the (graphical) debian installer (as a d-i plugin i think) to read the docs. Surely a static linked FLTK version can be very attractive to d-i people. Don't read us wrong, the decision to open the code is already > made, and BTW, Sebastian did an sterling job of documenting the > internals of Dw, so once it's out there, studying time starts, > and development should follow naturally. > > I wish you or somebody else in this list could take care of > patch reviewing, web site updating and that kind of tasks. > Anyone? I want to take care of patch reviewing with the condition that other person review my patchs. Please give me some orientation or guidelines. Some details remain, and I hope before September ends, the > fltk2 version of Dillo to be online. That is a very good news! -- > Cheers > Jorge.- Diego.

Sept. 2, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] 0.6% of people uses Dillo (poll said)

by Alan Carvalho de Assis

Hi Jorge, 2007/8/29, <>: > Hi Diego, > > It is soothing to see your optimism and hopes for Dillo. > Sometimes we think with Sebastian that releasing the code may not > make a difference after all because we currently have no time to > devote, and if people don't develop themselves, there the code > will remain. > releasing the fltk2 code, even if nobody develop it, new applications can be arrived, as its use in the cell phone and others embedded devices. > Don't read us wrong, the decision to open the code is already > made, and BTW, Sebastian did an sterling job of documenting the > internals of Dw, so once it's out there, studying time starts, > and development should follow naturally. > > I wish you or somebody else in this list could take care of > patch reviewing, web site updating and that kind of tasks. > Anyone? > I can help creating a LinuxBIOS rootfs with dillo embedded to demonstrate the web computer idea. Also can help updating dillo web site. > Some details remain, and I hope before September ends, the > fltk2 version of Dillo to be online. > It is really a great news! > > -- > Cheers > Jorge.- > Cheers, Alan

Aug. 29, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] 0.6% of people uses Dillo (poll said)

by None

Hi Diego, On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 03:28:55AM +0200, Diego . wrote: > DesktopLinux.com has published the results of its anual (desktop)linux poll. > The interesting thing is in the 3rd question: Which web browsers do you > frequently use on your Linux desktop(s)? > > http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?view=archive&id=08132… > > The interesting thing is that a frozen project have enough users to win over > 3 fully developed browsers :) (optimistic without cure) Yoou made more than my day with that! > Are there news about dillo development? Yes there're. It is soothing to see your optimism and hopes for Dillo. Sometimes we think with Sebastian that releasing the code may not make a difference after all because we currently have no time to devote, and if people don't develop themselves, there the code will remain. Don't read us wrong, the decision to open the code is already made, and BTW, Sebastian did an sterling job of documenting the internals of Dw, so once it's out there, studying time starts, and development should follow naturally. I wish you or somebody else in this list could take care of patch reviewing, web site updating and that kind of tasks. Anyone? Some details remain, and I hope before September ends, the fltk2 version of Dillo to be online. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Aug. 29, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] 0.6% of people uses Dillo (poll said)

by Alan Carvalho de Assis

Hi Diego, 2007/8/25, Diego . <darkspirit5000(a)gmail.com>: > DesktopLinux.com has published the results of its anual (desktop)linux poll. > The interesting thing is in the 3rd question: Which web browsers do you > frequently use on your Linux desktop(s)? > > http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?view=archive&id=08132… > > The interesting thing is that a frozen project have enough users to win over > 3 fully developed browsers :) (optimistic without cure) > > Surely a thawn will increase the dillo users. what about a 1%? > > The results from less to more > Does not apply 0.1 % > Netscape 0.1 % > Safari 0.2 % > Other (please tell us) 0.3 % > Flock 0.3 % > Galeon 0.4 % > Dillo 0.6 % > Seamonkey 1.7 % > Epiphany 2.3 % > Mozilla 3.7 % > Text-based browser (Lynx, Links, ELinks, etc.) 4.3 % > Opera 11.9 % > Konqueror 13.7 % > Firefox (aka Iceweasel) 59.6 % > Wow, this is very interesting. I think when Dillo FLTK will be released this percentage will increase more. > Are there news about dillo development? > Some months ago Jorge said we will see news, but it don't happen :-( > Diego. > Alan

Aug. 25, 2007

0.6% of people uses Dillo (poll said)

by Diego .

DesktopLinux.com has published the results of its anual (desktop)linux poll. The interesting thing is in the 3rd question: Which web browsers do you frequently use on your Linux desktop(s)? http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?view=archive&id=08132… The interesting thing is that a frozen project have enough users to win over 3 fully developed browsers :) (optimistic without cure) Surely a thawn will increase the dillo users. what about a 1%? The results from less to more Does not apply 0.1 % Netscape 0.1 % Safari 0.2 % Other (please tell us) 0.3 % Flock 0.3 % Galeon 0.4 % Dillo 0.6 % Seamonkey 1.7 % Epiphany 2.3 % Mozilla 3.7 % Text-based browser (Lynx, Links, ELinks, etc.) 4.3 % Opera 11.9 % Konqueror 13.7 % Firefox (aka Iceweasel) 59.6 % Are there news about dillo development? Diego.

Aug. 25, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] more dillo unfinished code

by Alan Carvalho de Assis

Hi Diego, congratulations, these plugin appear very nice. I'm busy now devoloping my thesis but when I get time I will test it. Cheers, Alan 2007/7/31, Diego . <darkspirit5000(a)gmail.com>: > Hello, i have added a patch to manage scripts with DPIs to my (dully and > silly) dillo unfinished code page. > > The patch only allow dillo to send scripts to DPIs and have bugs. > > Now i am working in mime DPIs. The test file type DPIs part work but the > code is too nasty yet. > > Please give your opinions about the page and the code. > > Do not worry to ask any doubt. > > I need some help about the english part to so do not doubt to blame my > english and tell my errors. Like this is not the topic of the list send > language errors directly to me. > > The page is http://personales.ya.com/darkspirit/ > > Diego. > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ | Alan Carvalho de Assis | ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Não importa o que os outros irão pensar, A cura para a infelicidade é a felicidade

Aug. 8, 2007

more dillo unfinished code

by Diego .

Hello, i have added a patch to manage scripts with DPIs to my (dully and silly) dillo unfinished code page. The patch only allow dillo to send scripts to DPIs and have bugs. Now i am working in mime DPIs. The test file type DPIs part work but the code is too nasty yet. Please give your opinions about the page and the code. Do not worry to ask any doubt. I need some help about the english part to so do not doubt to blame my english and tell my errors. Like this is not the topic of the list send language errors directly to me. The page is http://personales.ya.com/darkspirit/ Diego.

Aug. 1, 2007