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Icon for Dillo window

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:12:26PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:03:52 +0100 > > Von: Jeremy Henty <onepoint(a)starurchin.org> > > An: dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > > Betreff: Re: [Dillo-dev] Icon for Dillo window > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:48:17PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > > > I was thinking it'd be good to provide an icon for the WM to > > > use. Does anybody know how to do it with FLTK2? > > > > It appears not to be possible. In X Windows you set the > > _NET_WM_ICON hint > > test/image.cxx has from the fltk2 tarball shows how to do it. That doesn't work on my system (my window manager is icewm). For me test/image gets the standard X icon in its window frame and in its taskbar box when miminised (icewm doesn't use desktop icons). Does it work with any other window managers? Icewm sets icons by reading the WM_CLASS hint, interpreting it as the root of the icon file names and searching for the files in its icon directories. Unfortunately dillo2 sets WM_CLASS to '"Fltk", "fltk"'. If it set it to '"Dillo2", "dillo2"' I could configure its icons. If we're concerned about dillo2 playing properly with X11 and window managers then I'd say that it should set WM_CLASS to '"Dillo2", "dillo2"' on general principle. (The weird thing is that my icewm finds the right Firefox icons, yet I can't find any Firefox icon files in the icon directories. I'm still trying to figure out where it gets them from.) Also, the _NET_WM_ICON hint has the advantage that it can provide a list of icons of different sizes so that window managers can use a larger icon eg. when switching between applications with Alt+Tab. Regards, Jeremy Henty

Sept. 25, 2008

Icon for Dillo window

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:03:52 +0100 > Von: Jeremy Henty <onepoint(a)starurchin.org> > An: dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > Betreff: Re: [Dillo-dev] Icon for Dillo window > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:48:17PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > I was thinking it'd be good to provide an icon for the WM to > > use. Does anybody know how to do it with FLTK2? > > It appears not to be possible. In X Windows you set the _NET_WM_ICON > hint (as described at > > http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s05.html#id2523482 > > example at > > http://lists.kde.org/?m=115435217715650 > > but there is no mention of _NET_WM_ICON anywhere in the FLTK source > (in fact no use of WM hints anywhere except in Window_fullscreen.cxx > and once in Window::show() to set the command string). The FLTK docs > for Window::iconize() say > > Currently there are only X and Win32 system-specific ways to > control what is drawn in the icon. You should not rely on window > managers displaying the icons. > > So I think we would have to write X11-specific code. :-( > test/image.cxx has from the fltk2 tarball shows how to do it. It's X11-only though. Cheers, Johannes -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal f?r Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer

Sept. 25, 2008

Icon for Dillo window

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:48:17PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > I was thinking it'd be good to provide an icon for the WM to > use. Does anybody know how to do it with FLTK2? It appears not to be possible. In X Windows you set the _NET_WM_ICON hint (as described at http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s05.html#id2523482 example at http://lists.kde.org/?m=115435217715650 but there is no mention of _NET_WM_ICON anywhere in the FLTK source (in fact no use of WM hints anywhere except in Window_fullscreen.cxx and once in Window::show() to set the command string). The FLTK docs for Window::iconize() say Currently there are only X and Win32 system-specific ways to control what is drawn in the icon. You should not rely on window managers displaying the icons. So I think we would have to write X11-specific code. :-( Regards, Jeremy Henty

Sept. 25, 2008

patch: Re: [Dillo-dev] what's next

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Johannes wrote (way back in June!): > * The cursor is not always updated properly when over a link. This > happens while page is rendered and also when drag-scrolling with > the middle mouse button. How about updating it from layout()?

Sept. 25, 2008

Icon for Dillo window

by jcid＠dillo.org

Hi, I was thinking it'd be good to provide an icon for the WM to use. Does anybody know how to do it with FLTK2? -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 25, 2008

release packaging

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 02:16:22PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > OK, dw2 is now inside the dillo2 tree. > > CVS updated and also the directions in cvs.html. > > Please check and test. It works fine! Jeremy Henty

Sept. 25, 2008

release packaging

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 02:16:22PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 05:44:51PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 07:11:03PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:54:10PM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 07:52:07AM +0200, Andreas Kemnade wrote: > > > > > > > > > Currently you need to download three tarballs to compile dillo > > > > > (fltk,dw,dillo). I doubt that any linux distribution has fltk2 > > > > > packages at the moment. (and also not openembedded) What's the plan > > > > > about that? > > > > > > > > FLTK2's API is still not frozen, and its ABI does change quite often > > > > so we will have to supply the tarball ourselves. It would be simplest > > > > just to keep a copy of the right FLTK2 snapshot on the dillo site > > > > under a link saying "use *this* version". The problem is not that > > > > distros won't supply packages, the problem is that they *will* and it > > > > might be the wrong version. (Expect "I upgraded FLTK2 and Dillo > > > > crashed" reports!) > > > > > > > > The dw package is an awkward case. I think we should bite the bullet > > > > and either move it inside dillo2 or make it an independent package > > > > that the user installs and have dillo2 find and use the installed dw > > > > (and lose the dw-testbed symbolic link). > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > I'd move dw2 inside dillo2's tree (as it was before), > > > and have a recommended FLTK2 tarball in our site. > > > > That sounds good! > > OK, dw2 is now inside the dillo2 tree. > > CVS updated and also the directions in cvs.html. > > Please check and test. Yes, it works fine! Cheers, Johannes

Sept. 24, 2008

Who among you values standard_widget_colors? (was Re: [Dillo-dev] cut off word ends with italic fonts)

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Jeremy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 07:16:16PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:18:02PM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > > > I've been surfing with the default so I just tried switching to > > > standard_widget_colors=YES and... I don't see much difference. > > > What does it affect? So far I'm indifferent to it. > > > > Check the form inputs at the top of www.freshmeat.net for example. > > They should have the current background color with > > standard_widget_colors=NO. > > OK, I see. In this case I slightly prefer standard_widget_colors=YES, > but I wouldn't make a fuss about it. So, I am still pretty > indifferent at the moment. Are we proposing to remove this > preferences option? What behaviour will we get if we do? I was trying to speak neutrally so that no one would feel like they're standing in the way of anything if they prefer it. (Don't want to take care of code if it isn't being used.) So, all right, I have nothing to propose, then. [off topic: I realized yesterday that, in my mind, dillo has a three-dimensional shape. I think part of that comes from where different files appear when src/ is ls'ed. Weird.]

Sept. 24, 2008

Who among you values standard_widget_colors? (was Re: [Dillo-dev] cut off word ends with italic fonts)

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 07:16:16PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:18:02PM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > I've been surfing with the default so I just tried switching to > > standard_widget_colors=YES and... I don't see much difference. > > What does it affect? So far I'm indifferent to it. > > Check the form inputs at the top of www.freshmeat.net for example. > They should have the current background color with > standard_widget_colors=NO. OK, I see. In this case I slightly prefer standard_widget_colors=YES, but I wouldn't make a fuss about it. So, I am still pretty indifferent at the moment. Are we proposing to remove this preferences option? What behaviour will we get if we do? Regards, Jeremy Henty

Sept. 24, 2008

release packaging

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 05:44:51PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 07:11:03PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:54:10PM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 07:52:07AM +0200, Andreas Kemnade wrote: > > > > > > > Currently you need to download three tarballs to compile dillo > > > > (fltk,dw,dillo). I doubt that any linux distribution has fltk2 > > > > packages at the moment. (and also not openembedded) What's the plan > > > > about that? > > > > > > FLTK2's API is still not frozen, and its ABI does change quite often > > > so we will have to supply the tarball ourselves. It would be simplest > > > just to keep a copy of the right FLTK2 snapshot on the dillo site > > > under a link saying "use *this* version". The problem is not that > > > distros won't supply packages, the problem is that they *will* and it > > > might be the wrong version. (Expect "I upgraded FLTK2 and Dillo > > > crashed" reports!) > > > > > > The dw package is an awkward case. I think we should bite the bullet > > > and either move it inside dillo2 or make it an independent package > > > that the user installs and have dillo2 find and use the installed dw > > > (and lose the dw-testbed symbolic link). > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > I'd move dw2 inside dillo2's tree (as it was before), > > and have a recommended FLTK2 tarball in our site. > > That sounds good! OK, dw2 is now inside the dillo2 tree. CVS updated and also the directions in cvs.html. Please check and test. If it works you can get rid of the old dw2, dw2-cur directories and the dw-testbed symbolic link. (It worked here). -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 24, 2008