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[patch]: bind Ctrl-{PageUp, PageDown} to {lleft, right}-tab

by rogerx.oss＠gmail.com

> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:35:43AM -0400, Benjamin Johnson wrote: >Jorge wrote: > >> > Jeremy Henty wrote: >> > >> > Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See: >> > >> > >> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl… >> ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} >> It looks OK to me. >> Comments? >> -- Cheers >> Jorge.- > >I don't have a problem with the patch, but I do question the reasoning. >Dillo is a web browser, so most users will logically expect it to behave >like other web browsers they have used. Following Chrome, for instance, >is quite logical since it's a well-known browser many users are probably >familiar with. > >On the other hand, most users *don't* expect Dillo to behave like a >terminal emulator, which is a different kind of program entirely. It's >the same thing as with the input box keys. At best it's mildly confusing, >and if it conflicts with the expected behavior, it can cause a great deal >of frustration. Frustration hurts usability and drives away potential >users. > >So let's keep it if Chrome does it, but I wouldn't worry about Konsole and >GNOME Terminal and Terminal.app and mxterm and aterm and GNU screen and >whatever else people are using to run /bin/sh. If you really think Dillo >should act like a Unix shell, you have your personal keysrc. This last paragraph I find humorous. Although I haven't got the slightest clue as to what these keys do in a normal browser -- as simple as it even sounds, but I get two to five times more tasks completed in a shell rather then using a GUI browser. Funny. The shell must have done something right compared to GUI -- like keep our hands on the keyboard like the good typing teacher taught!!! -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Oct. 30, 2011

[patch]: bind Ctrl-{PageUp, PageDown} to {left, right}-tab

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

corvid wrote: > Jorge wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:35:02AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > > > > > Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See: > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl… > > > > ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} > > > > It looks OK to me. > > Comments? > > *has no objection* OK, I have pushed it. Regards, Jeremy Henty

Oct. 30, 2011

view src

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:50:08AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 06:41:17PM +0000, corvid wrote: > > Jorge wrote: > > > A quick trick to avoid viewing source of the "view source" page. > > > A proper solution would be appreciatted. > > > > Does that break things, or do you just dislike it? > > I don't remember exactly what the problem was (man I'm getting old). > > There were two issues (AFAIR): > 1) avoiding "always reload" (through dpi even on Back/Fwd). > 2) avoid recursive URL expansion on reload. > > The current URL scheme helps with 2) and allows handling of > 1) in the canonical way. > > Please test the attached patch. So far I see no problem with it. Have you had any trouble with it? If not, I'd like to commit it. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Oct. 30, 2011

[patch]: bind Ctrl-{PageUp, PageDown} to {lleft, right}-tab

by obeythepenguin＠gmail.com

Jorge wrote: > > Jeremy Henty wrote: > > >> > Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See: > > >> > > http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl… > ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} > It looks OK to me. > Comments? > -- Cheers > Jorge.- I don't have a problem with the patch, but I do question the reasoning. Dillo is a web browser, so most users will logically expect it to behave like other web browsers they have used. Following Chrome, for instance, is quite logical since it's a well-known browser many users are probably familiar with. On the other hand, most users *don't* expect Dillo to behave like a terminal emulator, which is a different kind of program entirely. It's the same thing as with the input box keys. At best it's mildly confusing, and if it conflicts with the expected behavior, it can cause a great deal of frustration. Frustration hurts usability and drives away potential users. So let's keep it if Chrome does it, but I wouldn't worry about Konsole and GNOME Terminal and Terminal.app and mxterm and aterm and GNU screen and whatever else people are using to run /bin/sh. If you really think Dillo should act like a Unix shell, you have your personal keysrc. Just my two cents, ~Benjamin

Oct. 30, 2011

[patch]: bind Ctrl-{PageUp, PageDown} to {left, right}-tab

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Jorge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:35:02AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > > > Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See: > > > > > > http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl… > > ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} > > It looks OK to me. > Comments? *has no objection*

Oct. 29, 2011

[patch]: bind Ctrl-{PageUp, PageDown} to {left, right}-tab

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:35:02AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > Bump! It's a simple patch that should be easy to review. > > > Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > Another case of "let's be like the other browsers". See: > > > > http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=16c23e5647c48367&hl… ... yeah some term emulators default to Ctrl+{PgUp,PgDn} It looks OK to me. Comments? -- Cheers Jorge.-

Oct. 29, 2011

Mailing list outage?

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 03:41:37PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37:15AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > > > Did the mailing lists go down this week? A message I sent on Monday > > > has only just appeared. > > > > > > It seems to be working OK now. > > > > Yes, dillo.org (website, mailing lists, dillo.org emails) was > > down at least for a full day. > > According to Andreas it seems to be a hardware issue. He's working > on it. Once again, many thanks to Andreas. Regards, Jeremy Henty

Oct. 28, 2011

Mailing list outage?

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 03:41:37PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37:15AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > > > Did the mailing lists go down this week? A message I sent on Monday > > has only just appeared. > > > > It seems to be working OK now. > > Yes, dillo.org (website, mailing lists, dillo.org emails) was > down at least for a full day. According to Andreas it seems to be a hardware issue. He's working on it. Cheers, Johannes

Oct. 28, 2011

Mailing list outage?

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37:15AM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > Did the mailing lists go down this week? A message I sent on Monday > has only just appeared. > > It seems to be working OK now. Yes, dillo.org (website, mailing lists, dillo.org emails) was down at least for a full day. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Oct. 28, 2011

Mailing list outage?

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

Did the mailing lists go down this week? A message I sent on Monday has only just appeared. It seems to be working OK now. Regards, Jeremy Henty

Oct. 28, 2011