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Re: [Dillo-dev]dillo-0.8.1.tar.bz2 final on ps2

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Fri, 14 May 2004, robert w hall wrote: > works OK on playstation2-linux with a 2.2.21 kernel (from xrhino). > I haven't tried it on the default (sony) 2.2.1 kernel (kids seem to have > deleted it!) - but dimly recollect pthreads is a library not a kernel > feature, (so it shouldn't matter???) POSIX threads is one of "those" complex matters. It depends on several things including the kernel and glibc. To add flavour, Linux comes/came with linux threads, which is close to POSIX but not fully. The New POSIX Threads Library (NPTL) is POSIX compatible, and requires special kernel threading (as of 2.5.36), glibc 2.3 and other bindings (RedHat 9 was going to be the first to provide such environment). Furthermore, there are several different threading libraries among the platforms we support, so go figure! You can read much more than you wanted to know here: http://lwn.net/Articles/10465/ http://people.redhat.com/drepper/nptl-design.pdf As you may have begun to suspect after this short exposition, it's hard to know, and certainly I don't know, whether it will also run with Sony's 2.2.1 kernel! :-) Regards Jorge.-

May 14, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]dillo-0.8.1.tar.bz2 final

by Kelson Vibber

On Thursday 13 May 2004 3:33 pm, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > It is not yet announced, probably on Staurday, after Kelson is > ready with the RPMs. I've got most of them put together, and the new index page is standing by. There's one more I need to build at work, which I can do when I get in tomorrow morning. > - A fix on pthreads detection code. > > The last one _NEEDS_ testing, on every machine! I may have said > only on non Linux-based ones, but the bug was detected on an old > libc5 based GNU/Linux! Interestingly, the one I had the most trouble with was pthread-related. For some reason Conectiva 8 was willing to build without libpthread.a, but Conectiva 9 was not. Once I installed glic-devel-static, it was fine. > PS: Please note that this release shifts the state from alpha to > "very stable beta". I have noted the change on the new RPM index page. Congratulations! P.S. I should be able to add two more distributions in the next few weeks. I plan on trying out Mandrake 10 soon (Every once in a while I try the latest Mandrake with the intent of switching. So far, every time I've ended up going back to Red Hat), and I've ordered a PowerBook with Yellow Dog Linux preinstalled. -- Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

May 14, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]pre release

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Wed, 12 May 2004, Frank W McCormick wrote: > > Hi all > Compiled and running the pre on Linux 2.4.24. No problems yet, but > one thing that's been bothering me since Dillo was given DL > capabilities....right clicking on a direct link gives you the DL but > were it not for the eth0 indicator in ICEWM I wouldn't have any > indication that DL was going ahead. Is this normal ? Please read the help page, downloads section... Cheers Jorge.-

May 13, 2004

[Dillo-dev]dillo-0.8.1.tar.bz2 final

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi there, It's being a long period of testing. As I don't want to delay the next release anymore, the final tarball is there, ready for download! It is not yet announced, probably on Staurday, after Kelson is ready with the RPMs. The final tarball is not exactly the same as "pre2", it comes with a few fixes: - A fix on iterartors (on a very rare critical warning). - A fix to gray up the stop button on downloads (1 line fix). - A new link in the splash, magazines section. - A fix on pthreads detection code. The last one _NEEDS_ testing, on every machine! I may have said only on non Linux-based ones, but the bug was detected on an old libc5 based GNU/Linux! It should work because it more or less leaves the settings as they were before, but with the enhancement of not linking pthread to every binary. It's a simple test, if you have a working dillo binary after 'make', it's OK. That's all. Please don't be shy and report success on your platform. If nobody reports problems before Kelson is done (or Saturday), it will be released. ;-) Good Luck! Jorge.- PS: Please note that this release shifts the state from alpha to "very stable beta". PS2: http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.1.tar.bz2

May 13, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]Re: null byte in HTML

by Francis Daly

On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 08:08:30AM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > From: Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela(a)cs.tut.fi> > On Wed, 12 May 2004, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > I can't yet found whether the null byte character is allowed in > > HTML. Can you shed some light on this? > > It is not. You could use http://validator.w3.org to check for disallowed > characters (it reports "non SGML character number 0"), but the ultimate > reference is > a) for HTML 4, the SGML declaration > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/sgmldecl.html > where UNUSED effectively means 'disallowed' > b) for XHTML, the XML specification, see > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#charsets > which say, among other things, that all characters below 9 (HT) are > disallowed. That seems authoritative. But for completeness, even though the character isn't allowed, it can appear, and how a browser handles it might matter. As a specific example, the "rt" issue tracker has a web interface. The version I was evaluating accepted (as I recall) the name "Se�n" as part of its input (the non-ascii character there is 0xe1, "LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE"). When it presented that back to the browser, the 0xe1 had become 0x00, which caused oddness in the display on a few browsers. The content-type was declared as text/html;charset=utf-8. I don't know if that was a part of, or a trigger for, the display problem. But either way, storing or accessing text/html as a C string will not work in (broken but existing) cases like that. If there's a straightforward way of flagging "I saw a NUL, this isn't text, complain to the web server administrator" in the bugmeter, that would probably be a reasonable failure (error correction) mode. All the best, f -- Francis Daly francis(a)daoine.org

May 13, 2004

[Dillo-dev]Re: null byte in HTML

by Jorge Arellano Cid

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:33:13 +0300 (EEST) From: Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela(a)cs.tut.fi> To: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> Subject: Re: Is the null byte allowed in HTML? On Wed, 12 May 2004, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > I can't yet found whether the null byte character is allowed in > HTML. Can you shed some light on this? It is not. You could use http://validator.w3.org to check for disallowed characters (it reports "non SGML character number 0"), but the ultimate reference is a) for HTML 4, the SGML declaration http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/sgmldecl.html where UNUSED effectively means 'disallowed' b) for XHTML, the XML specification, see http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#charsets which say, among other things, that all characters below 9 (HT) are disallowed. Thanks for a good question - I'm just finalizing a book on XHTML (in Finnish, sorry) and I realized that I had forgotten to discuss the character issue in sufficient detail. (I just realized that various generators may produce data with control characters.) -- Jukka "Yucca" Korpela, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

May 13, 2004

[Dillo-dev]null byte in HTML

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi there! Does anyone know whether a null-byte ('\0') is allowed inside HTML or SGML or XML? Cheers Jorge.-

May 12, 2004

[Dillo-dev]pre release

by Frank W McCormick

Hi all Compiled and running the pre on Linux 2.4.24. No problems yet, but one thing that's been bothering me since Dillo was given DL capabilities....right clicking on a direct link gives you the DL but were it not for the eth0 indicator in ICEWM I wouldn't have any indication that DL was going ahead. Is this normal ? -- -------------- Frank McCormick Montreal --------------

May 12, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]download problem on OpenBSD

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Sun, 1 Jan 1995, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > using pre2 I went to sourceforge do download a file. On the mirror page > > I selected one and clicked on the "here" message for the non-stadard > > refresh which gives a direct link to the file (I could use it for d/l > > with wget). > > > > Clicking on it brought up a file location requester, I selected my home > > directory and gave ok. Dillo crashed with: > > I tried again with another site (after a computer reboot) and it crashed > the same way. > However, retrying, by restarting dillo, makes it work. It must be a dpi > launching problem ? I tried to reproduce it, but with no luck. Once running, the dpid daemon should not have trouble with the dpi_socket_dir file (it holds the directory name under /tmp used to create the unix domain sockets for each dpi server). BTW, it should survive a reboot! Maybe you have a cron job that removes the socket directory used by dillo or something like that. Please try to find a more precise way to reproduce it, as I can't with the first post's instructions. Can anyone else reproduce this? How does dillo crash? A Segfault, no download, silent exit? Cheers Jorge.-

May 11, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]dillo interface and motif, athena etc

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Tue, 11 May 2004, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > david feldman wrote: > > > > I think your questions are very good, I hope you get good answer! > > > > unfortunately there was no follow up. I wonder if anyone else beside you > was interested. > > -R http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.windows.x.motif/motif.html

May 11, 2004