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dillo2.x on Fedora 12

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:17:08PM -0800, Globe Trotter wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Michal Nowak <newman.x(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Michal Nowak <newman.x(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo2.x on Fedora 12 > > To: "Globe Trotter" <itsme_410(a)yahoo.com> > > Cc: dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > > Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:26 AM > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:47 AM, > > Globe Trotter <itsme_410(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Any likelihood of getting some Fedora 12 dillo2 RPMS? > > > > > > > You may try > > > > http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/dillo2/ > > > > should be the last release. There are static RPMs for F-11 > > and SRPM, which > > you can rebuild yourself for F-12, when you have installed > > static FLTK2 > > > > http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/fltk2/static/ > > > > Though, unlikely to have Dillo 2 in Fedora as a supported > > package due to > > FLTK2, which is used in Dillo 2, is unreleased version, we > > don't wanna in > > Fedora. (Anyway FLTK2 seemed to me dead, last time I've > > looked, anyway.) > > Hi, > > Does that mean that Dillo has no hope also because it is based on fltk2? Definately not. Even though there is only few development going on for fltk2, it works rather well for us and pressing bugs get fixed. We also keep an eye on fltk-1.3 for which there is active development. Once there is an official fltk-1.3 release we will consider whether to switch to that version. Generally in dillo2 there is a pretty good separation of general code and GUI toolkit dependent code, so a port to another toolkit is possible. Cheers, Johannes

Jan. 18, 2010

dillo2.x on Fedora 12

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:17:08PM -0800, Globe Trotter wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Michal Nowak <newman.x(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Michal Nowak <newman.x(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo2.x on Fedora 12 > > To: "Globe Trotter" <itsme_410(a)yahoo.com> > > Cc: dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > > Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:26 AM > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:47 AM, > > Globe Trotter <itsme_410(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Any likelihood of getting some Fedora 12 dillo2 RPMS? > > > > > > > You may try > > > > http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/dillo2/ > > > > should be the last release. There are static RPMs for F-11 > > and SRPM, which > > you can rebuild yourself for F-12, when you have installed > > static FLTK2 > > > > http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/fltk2/static/ > > > > Though, unlikely to have Dillo 2 in Fedora as a supported > > package due to > > FLTK2, which is used in Dillo 2, is unreleased version, we > > don't wanna in > > Fedora. (Anyway FLTK2 seemed to me dead, last time I've > > looked, anyway.) > > Hi, > > Does that mean that Dillo has no hope also because it is based on fltk2? Definately not. Even though there is only few development going on for fltk2, it works rather well for us and pressing bugs get fixed. We also keep an eye on fltk-1.3 for which there is active development. Once there is an official fltk-1.3 release we will consider whether to switch to that version. Generally in dillo2 there is a pretty good separation of general code and GUI toolkit dependent code, so a port to another toolkit is possible. Cheers, Johannes

Jan. 18, 2010

Cookies performance

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:19:28PM +0000, corvid wrote: > Johannes wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 03:58:25PM +0900, furaisanjin wrote: > > > 2010/1/18 Johannes Hofmann <Johannes.Hofmann(a)gmx.de>: > > > > Please test attached patch. It limits the overall number of > > > > concurrent connections to 4. > > > > > > I tested this with TCP_NODELAY option and it seems that further image > > > downloading stops when the page repush happens due to remote CSS. So I > > > don't see all images. Good thing is that I don't get the error > > > message. > > > > Hm, it seems to work ok here... > > > > Does loading other pages still work, after image loading has > > stalled, or is the complete dillo instance broken after that? > > > > Do you have a fast or slow internet connection? > > > > Do you know what kind of proxy you are connecting to? > > I've tried with image loading and remote stylesheets on to the > degree that I can tolerate :) , and I like this connection > limiting a whole lot. We definately need a connection limit. Currently dillo can be spawning hundreds of connections to a single server which is not nice. HTTP 1.1 even suggests a limit of 2 connections per host though according to http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2008/03/20/roundup-on-parallel-connections/ modern browsers us something between 2 and 6 now, so I think an overall limit of 4 is ok for dillo. There even is a benefit when loading long pages with images: With the connection limit in place the first (and probabely visible) images on the page get more bandwidth and load faster. > > So far, all I've noticed was once getting one of those > "IO_write, closing with pending data not sent" msgs > when I left a page while things were loading. It didn't seem > to cause any harm, though. > This might be connections that get aborted while still queued and therefore not connected. I will check that. Cheers, Johannes

Jan. 18, 2010

dillo2.x on Fedora 12

by itsme_410＠yahoo.com

--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Michal Nowak <newman.x(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Michal Nowak <newman.x(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo2.x on Fedora 12 > To: "Globe Trotter" <itsme_410(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:26 AM > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:47 AM, > Globe Trotter <itsme_410(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Any likelihood of getting some Fedora 12 dillo2 RPMS? > > > > You may try > > http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/dillo2/ > > should be the last release. There are static RPMs for F-11 > and SRPM, which > you can rebuild yourself for F-12, when you have installed > static FLTK2 > > http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/fltk2/static/ > > Though, unlikely to have Dillo 2 in Fedora as a supported > package due to > FLTK2, which is used in Dillo 2, is unreleased version, we > don't wanna in > Fedora. (Anyway FLTK2 seemed to me dead, last time I've > looked, anyway.) Hi, Does that mean that Dillo has no hope also because it is based on fltk2? Thanks! T > Unless Dillo 2 is based on some released and supported > toolkit, Dillo 2 won't > be Fedora-supported.

Jan. 18, 2010

display: inline

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 06:48:19PM +0100, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 06:56:55PM +0100, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I started to experiment with the real solution, which means that the > > display member of Style determines whether a (Text)block is created > > or a ListItem, or whether just normal text is added. > > The patch is still small, but as the change is pretty > > fundamental, so I decided to put it in a separate repo for now. > > You can find it at: > > > > http://www.flpsed.org/hgweb/dillo_display/ > > > > I've updated this prototype a bit. It works quite well, the only > drawback is the added complexity in html.cc. > In addition to Html_tag_open_*() and Html_tag_clone_*(), there now is > an optional Html_tag_content_*() function for tags that create > widgets or other content. This function is not called in the > display:none case. > The reason for the splitting into Html_tag_open_*() and > Html_tag_content_*() is that styleEngine->setNonCssHints() is > needed before we can get the current style. > Only after that is done, we know the value of the display property > and can decide whether to call Html_tag_content_*() or not. > > I'd like to get this into main line soon if you agree. > Please let me know what you think. I checked the last repo, and AFAIS it's OK to merge. Notes: - I agree with corvid on using NULL instead of Html_tag_close_default. - There's a comment on *open and *close() function being always called but there's still a conditional close on display_none. Please check it. - Please don't merge the IPPROTO_TCP patch with it. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Jan. 18, 2010

Cookies performance

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Johannes wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 03:58:25PM +0900, furaisanjin wrote: > > 2010/1/18 Johannes Hofmann <Johannes.Hofmann(a)gmx.de>: > > > Please test attached patch. It limits the overall number of > > > concurrent connections to 4. > > > > I tested this with TCP_NODELAY option and it seems that further image > > downloading stops when the page repush happens due to remote CSS. So I > > don't see all images. Good thing is that I don't get the error > > message. > > Hm, it seems to work ok here... > > Does loading other pages still work, after image loading has > stalled, or is the complete dillo instance broken after that? > > Do you have a fast or slow internet connection? > > Do you know what kind of proxy you are connecting to? I've tried with image loading and remote stylesheets on to the degree that I can tolerate :) , and I like this connection limiting a whole lot. So far, all I've noticed was once getting one of those "IO_write, closing with pending data not sent" msgs when I left a page while things were loading. It didn't seem to cause any harm, though.

Jan. 18, 2010

Cookies performance

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 03:58:25PM +0900, furaisanjin wrote: > 2010/1/18 Johannes Hofmann <Johannes.Hofmann(a)gmx.de>: > > Please test attached patch. It limits the overall number of > > concurrent connections to 4. > > I tested this with TCP_NODELAY option and it seems that further image > downloading stops when the page repush happens due to remote CSS. So I > don't see all images. Good thing is that I don't get the error > message. Hm, it seems to work ok here... Does loading other pages still work, after image loading has stalled, or is the complete dillo instance broken after that? Do you have a fast or slow internet connection? Do you know what kind of proxy you are connecting to? Regards, Johannes

Jan. 18, 2010

Cookies performance

by furaisanjin＠gmail.com

2010/1/18 Johannes Hofmann <Johannes.Hofmann(a)gmx.de>: > Please test attached patch. It limits the overall number of > concurrent connections to 4. I tested this with TCP_NODELAY option and it seems that further image downloading stops when the page repush happens due to remote CSS. So I don't see all images. Good thing is that I don't get the error message. Regards, furaisanjin

Jan. 18, 2010

Cookies performance

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 01:09:39PM +0100, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 06:20:41PM +0900, furaisanjin wrote: > > 2010/1/14 Johannes Hofmann <Johannes.Hofmann(a)gmx.de>: > > > Ok, could you please try this combination: > > > > > > - TCP_NODELAY not included (e.g. hg up 239f9fc6c313) > > > - cookies disabled > > > - proxy is used > > > > > > My guess is that this combination also shows the problem, but of > > > course we need to verify this. > > > > Yes, I see the same error messages with above combination, so > > definitely this is communication problem between dillo and my local > > proxy. I guess that dillo creates socket connection too often. > > Ok good. I'm working on a connection limit right now and hope to have > something to test soon. Please test attached patch. It limits the overall number of concurrent connections to 4. Cheers, Johannes

Jan. 17, 2010

some code for better cookie rejection

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Yesterday I made a rough draft of some code to allow the use of the http://publicsuffix.org/list/ to determine which domains dillo shouldn't allow cookies to be set for: http://www.dillo.org/test/public_suffix.diff I just put it there for safekeeping for now, as I have no plans to clean it up and get it into dillo until after the next release, but it occurred to me that I should at least mention it's there for anyone who uses cookies and lives somewhere where the domain situation is complicated (e.g., Japan). A user would have to add a line to cookiesrc like public_suffix_file /path/to/list/file

Jan. 16, 2010