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Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 09:19:42AM -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: > > > --- On Sat, 9/17/11, Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid at dillo.org> wrote: > > > From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid at dillo.org> > > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Close dillo with multiple tabs open > > To: dillo-dev at dillo.org > > Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 12:09 PM > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:20:29AM > > +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 05:04:49AM +0000, corvid > > wrote: > > > > Roger wrote: > > > > > >> > you mean, "confirm to exit > > prompt".? Ditto.? Rarely, if ever accidentally > > quit. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I wasn't sure what my opinion was > > on this at first, but now I think an > > > > > >> option sounds reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > >Why not, if there is demand for it and > > the default is safe > > > > > >(i.e.? off). > > > > > > > > > > Ditto. I've never accidentally quit. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I've used File > Quit once in a > > while, but with that many key sequences or > > > > > clicks, it's tough to accidentally > > quit.? Also, few options under the File > > > > > menu.? Most times, I just halt -p. > > > > > > > > Just occurred to me that everyone's been saying > > that they don't need this > > > > dialog box. I checked firefox and it doesn't warn > > when quitting. Maybe we > > > > don't need it at all. > > > > > > Safari has it and given the fact that we only recently > > switched from > > > Ctrl-Q to Crtl-W for closing tabs, people might > > accidentally hit > > > Ctrl-Q when they want to close just the tab. It > > happend to me at > > > least. So for now I would keep it. > > > > ? Same for me. > > > > ? Now, if somebody wants to add a preference for that, > > could be, > > but the default should be to ask. > > I see no harm in this: put in a default but make it configurable. > While I don't have the urge to use ctrl-q much, I am still stumped why alt-q > does not work now to close dillo, as I had conditioned myself to. i usually > immediately rebound and go with the new action.... ctrl-q is considered more used across apps. (that made it the default) You can set alt-q in keysrc if you want. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by obeythepenguin＠gmail.com

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:45:29 -0400, Rogut?s Sparnuotos <rogutes at googlemail.com> wrote: > Benjamin Johnson (2011-09-17 10:14): >> Speaking of restoring sessions, one of my own users had the very >> clever idea to implement that feature using bookmarks -- save all >> the open tabs in a certain bookmarks section, then load all the >> bookmarks in that section on startup. I haven't coded it yet, but I >> wanted to share since it was such a neat solution to that problem. > > I guess this would be much better than nothing, and separate sessions > could use separate bookmark sections (controlled by a command line > parameter or dialogs)... Though one gets spoiled by the ones like > Firefox, > that take the pain of restoring POST data, this approach is not > bulletproof and perhaps for dillo it would suffice to restore a simple > URL > list into tabs. I should note that this suggestion was for Dillo-Win32, which has the bookmarks code built into the browser (and already supports loading an entire bookmarks section in tabs). So it's quite practical there, since it's just reusing existing code. I doubt the bookmarks approach would work as well in mainline, since it would have to run everything through the DPI, and that code's already complicated enough as it is. But at least the DPI can easily be modified to store bookmarks in a database, for the rare user who has a running MySQL server but lacks the CPU power for Firefox. ;-) ~Benjamin

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by rogutes＠googlemail.com

Benjamin Johnson (2011-09-17 10:14): > On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:04:49 -0400, corvid <corvid at lavabit.com> wrote: > > >Just occurred to me that everyone's been saying that they don't need this > >dialog box. I checked firefox and it doesn't warn when quitting. Maybe we > >don't need it at all. > > Of course, Firefox has the ability to restore the last open session > when it starts up; accidentally quitting isn't so bad when you can > just restart and resume where you left off. (Out of curiosity, does > it do that by default?) I think Firefox asks how it should behave regarding sessions when quiting for the first time. > Speaking of restoring sessions, one of my own users had the very > clever idea to implement that feature using bookmarks -- save all > the open tabs in a certain bookmarks section, then load all the > bookmarks in that section on startup. I haven't coded it yet, but I > wanted to share since it was such a neat solution to that problem. I guess this would be much better than nothing, and separate sessions could use separate bookmark sections (controlled by a command line parameter or dialogs)... Though one gets spoiled by the ones like Firefox, that take the pain of restoring POST data, this approach is not bulletproof and perhaps for dillo it would suffice to restore a simple URL list into tabs. -- -- Rogut?s Sparnuotos

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by itsme_410＠yahoo.com

--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid at dillo.org> wrote: > From: Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid at dillo.org> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Close dillo with multiple tabs open > To: dillo-dev at dillo.org > Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 12:09 PM > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:20:29AM > +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 05:04:49AM +0000, corvid > wrote: > > > Roger wrote: > > > > >> > you mean, "confirm to exit > prompt".? Ditto.? Rarely, if ever accidentally > quit. > > > > >> > > > > >> I wasn't sure what my opinion was > on this at first, but now I think an > > > > >> option sounds reasonable. > > > > > > > > > >Why not, if there is demand for it and > the default is safe > > > > >(i.e.? off). > > > > > > > > Ditto. I've never accidentally quit. > > > > > > > > Oh, I've used File > Quit once in a > while, but with that many key sequences or > > > > clicks, it's tough to accidentally > quit.? Also, few options under the File > > > > menu.? Most times, I just halt -p. > > > > > > Just occurred to me that everyone's been saying > that they don't need this > > > dialog box. I checked firefox and it doesn't warn > when quitting. Maybe we > > > don't need it at all. > > > > Safari has it and given the fact that we only recently > switched from > > Ctrl-Q to Crtl-W for closing tabs, people might > accidentally hit > > Ctrl-Q when they want to close just the tab. It > happend to me at > > least. So for now I would keep it. > > ? Same for me. > > ? Now, if somebody wants to add a preference for that, > could be, > but the default should be to ask. I see no harm in this: put in a default but make it configurable. While I don't have the urge to use ctrl-q much, I am still stumped why alt-q does not work now to close dillo, as I had conditioned myself to. i usually immediately rebound and go with the new action....

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:20:29AM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 05:04:49AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > Roger wrote: > > > >> > you mean, "confirm to exit prompt". Ditto. Rarely, if ever accidentally quit. > > > >> > > > >> I wasn't sure what my opinion was on this at first, but now I think an > > > >> option sounds reasonable. > > > > > > > >Why not, if there is demand for it and the default is safe > > > >(i.e. off). > > > > > > Ditto. I've never accidentally quit. > > > > > > Oh, I've used File > Quit once in a while, but with that many key sequences or > > > clicks, it's tough to accidentally quit. Also, few options under the File > > > menu. Most times, I just halt -p. > > > > Just occurred to me that everyone's been saying that they don't need this > > dialog box. I checked firefox and it doesn't warn when quitting. Maybe we > > don't need it at all. > > Safari has it and given the fact that we only recently switched from > Ctrl-Q to Crtl-W for closing tabs, people might accidentally hit > Ctrl-Q when they want to close just the tab. It happend to me at > least. So for now I would keep it. Same for me. Now, if somebody wants to add a preference for that, could be, but the default should be to ask. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by obeythepenguin＠gmail.com

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:04:49 -0400, corvid <corvid at lavabit.com> wrote: > Just occurred to me that everyone's been saying that they don't need this > dialog box. I checked firefox and it doesn't warn when quitting. Maybe we > don't need it at all. Of course, Firefox has the ability to restore the last open session when it starts up; accidentally quitting isn't so bad when you can just restart and resume where you left off. (Out of curiosity, does it do that by default?) Speaking of restoring sessions, one of my own users had the very clever idea to implement that feature using bookmarks -- save all the open tabs in a certain bookmarks section, then load all the bookmarks in that section on startup. I haven't coded it yet, but I wanted to share since it was such a neat solution to that problem. Cheers, ~Benjamin

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 05:04:49AM +0000, corvid wrote: > Roger wrote: > > >> > you mean, "confirm to exit prompt". Ditto. Rarely, if ever accidentally quit. > > >> > > >> I wasn't sure what my opinion was on this at first, but now I think an > > >> option sounds reasonable. > > > > > >Why not, if there is demand for it and the default is safe > > >(i.e. off). > > > > Ditto. I've never accidentally quit. > > > > Oh, I've used File > Quit once in a while, but with that many key sequences or > > clicks, it's tough to accidentally quit. Also, few options under the File > > menu. Most times, I just halt -p. > > Just occurred to me that everyone's been saying that they don't need this > dialog box. I checked firefox and it doesn't warn when quitting. Maybe we > don't need it at all. Safari has it and given the fact that we only recently switched from Ctrl-Q to Crtl-W for closing tabs, people might accidentally hit Ctrl-Q when they want to close just the tab. It happend to me at least. So for now I would keep it. Cheers, Johannes

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Roger wrote: > >> > you mean, "confirm to exit prompt". Ditto. Rarely, if ever accidentally quit. > >> > >> I wasn't sure what my opinion was on this at first, but now I think an > >> option sounds reasonable. > > > >Why not, if there is demand for it and the default is safe > >(i.e. off). > > Ditto. I've never accidentally quit. > > Oh, I've used File > Quit once in a while, but with that many key sequences or > clicks, it's tough to accidentally quit. Also, few options under the File > menu. Most times, I just halt -p. Just occurred to me that everyone's been saying that they don't need this dialog box. I checked firefox and it doesn't warn when quitting. Maybe we don't need it at all.

Sept. 17, 2011

Close dillo with multiple tabs open

by rogerx.oss＠gmail.com

>> > you mean, "confirm to exit prompt". Ditto. Rarely, if ever accidentally quit. >> >> I wasn't sure what my opinion was on this at first, but now I think an >> option sounds reasonable. > >Why not, if there is demand for it and the default is safe >(i.e. off). Ditto. I've never accidentally quit. Oh, I've used File > Quit once in a while, but with that many key sequences or clicks, it's tough to accidentally quit. Also, few options under the File menu. Most times, I just halt -p. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Sept. 17, 2011

system colors

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Here's one with preferences as well as some code to ensure that FL_SELECTION_COLOR has contrast:

Sept. 17, 2011