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Re: [Dillo-dev] Icons poll

by Nicola Girardi

> I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder > whether to make them the default. Definitely. :-)

May 30, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Icons poll

by Phil Pennock

On 2003-05-30 at 12:57 -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder > whether to make them the default. I personally find his icons to be much more intuitive; I'm not stuck blinking at the top of the browser window trying to remember which icon is which. What do you call fluff which actually achieves something useful and is unexpectedly good? Whatever the word is, if it's polite then it's probably a good word for the pixmaps.jg.h replacements. If you don't make them the default, then could someone who speaks autoconf please consider adding an option --with-pixmaps=/path/to/headerfile.h ? Purely so that I can be lazy when I put these icons in my compiles? :^) -- 2001: Blogging invented. Promises to change the way people bore strangers with banal anecdotes about their pets. <http://www.thelemon.net/issues/timeline.php>

May 30, 2003

Icons poll

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi there, I've been using John Grantham's icons for a while, and wonder whether to make them the default. So this poll is open! (but closed to dillo-dev) Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] entities display

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Nikita, > On Tue, 20 May 2003 13:39:23 -0400 (CLT) > Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)softhome.net> wrote: > > > Hi Nikita, > > Hello, Jorge ! > > > Now, considering the current development plan, it'd be good to > > have an interim workaround. > > > > After reviewing the implementation in the patch, I'd prefer not > > to intermix it with the current (correct but incomplete) way of > > handling entities. > > > > For instance, defining another entities table that's to be used > > when the entity is not found in the current one is a good way to > > separate the workaround code! > > > > I'd like to add to this new table some important numeric > > character references (UTF-8) that are usually found in web pages > > these days. Things like: > > > > "—" > > "’" > > "“" > > "”" > > > > This could help our rendering while we get to GTK+2. > > Please let me know if you want to improve it this way! > > > > Cheers > > Jorge.- > > Jorge, the current way to display entities do not satisfy me because > it throws away any entity which code is more than 255. Well, that is for Latin1. > Is there any > reason to leave table without representations in place and add > a new one _with_ them which differs only in representations field and > (possible) bigger number of entities ? Maybe not, but I didn't suggest _that_ table. I thought that although implicit it was clear, but it seems that character handling code is always harder than it seems! The main reason for separating the tables was to make clear what was the workaround and what the code to be used with UCS in the future. The other is that the second table can be ordered by isocode and thus allow for a bin search instead of the slow linear search the patch uses. While reviewing it in more depth, I found a bug in dillo's code (fixed in CVS), and made a small UCS to latin converter that help in very weird pages like: http://www.michigan.gov/minewswire/ 0,1607,7-136-3452_3518-51568--M_2002_9,00.html (all in one line) Finally, I can't see (yet) how having this entitites character representation helps when using another character set (as with the russian encoding workaround), unless you first convert the regular HTML character encoding into the current locale! Certainly a hairy problem, and one of the main reasons for GTK+2 design decision of using UCS instead of the current locale as its internal representation. > In future (GTK2 internals) all representations definition and use could > be cut from source code and I don't see any problem or pain with it, > corresponding changes will be not so big. > > IMHO all progress we can do now is entering more entities in table. > > In any case I interested in further progress in this way. > > P.S. Entities you mention cannot be translated from UCS2 (encoding used > in HTML numeric entities) to UTF-8. Lynx/links do not show that also. I meant UCS to Latin1 (see the patch in CVS). Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo and Zaurus

by dontodd＠columbus.rr.com

On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 11:20:17AM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 May 2003 dontodd(a)columbus.rr.com wrote: > > > I just got a Zaurus SL-5500 and was wondering if anyone has built Dillo > > for that. I'm running Open Zaurus 3.2. > > I haven't received any email indicating that it works on the > Zaurus. :( > > > > Where would I begin? > > I don't know. Maybe start looking what other handhelds (where > Dillo runs) have in common with the Zaurus, and what not. Hi Jorge, I poked around usenet and was told that I'd have to get X running on the Zaurus, and then GTK, and that it is difficult to get GTK on the Z, and that it would be better to move Dillo to use Qtopia. All of which is beyond my current capability! Thanks, Todd

May 30, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Re: animated GIF in dillo

by Daniel Lord

Hello, On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 11:28:02AM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > Note that some of us are *very* happy without animated gifs, so > a dillorc option to disable animation is a must! ACK, a ./configure option to keep this code out of the binary would be nice, too. Greetings Daniel -- Darkness is falling, over my mind | http://www.againsttcpa.com/ My burning eyes are, deadly blind | http://www.notcpa.org/ Now there is nothing like it seem | http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cr78.html All illusion, only dreams........ --- Darkwell "Realm Of Darkness"

May 30, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo & Sylpheed-Claws: finally!

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi Melvin! > I want just to announce that Sylpheed-Claws (email client), as of the released > version 0.9.0claws, officially supports Dillo as its embedded HTML mail viewer, > in the form of a loadable plugin. Great! This is very good for both projects. I hope people will start to see that dillo can be easily used as an HTML viewing lib. > I would like to thank Jorge for integrating and improving the necessary > patches. Ack! The next step will be the reversal: a dpi to redirect mailto: to Sylpheed-Claws. > I would also like to thank him and all other contributors to Dillo for their > work and for providing such a fast/small/useable/useful browser. Keep on the > good work! Thanks a lot. Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2003

Re: Dillo

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Stefan, > Hi! Hi. > First of all: Thanks! Thanks for giving me Dillo! You're welcome. > I've got two questions: > > 1. In the dpi text a hello_world plugin is mentioned. Where can I find it? Hold on a bit, we're working with Ferdi on a new plugin manager that will ease a lot the making of new plugins. (if you can't hold your breath, drop me a note and I'll send it to you). > 2. I'd like to see some things in future releases. Where can I post suggestions? You said 'dont brainstorm to the mailing list'. First, think a lot of suggestions before posting them. That's the idea. We have little manpower and a lot to do, so we focus on the most important issues only. > What I'd like to see: Incremental full text search like in the latest Mozilla version. Just typing in the main window starts a search over the whole displayed Page. Prefix letters (configurable!) restrict search, e.g. > > '/' -> search only within link text > '\' -> search only within link target > ':' -> search only within plain text > '#' -> search only within current frame > '*' -> use regexp search (okay, this one's really advanced) > > ESC -> stops old search, starts new > TAB -> jump to next match > > So, '#\foo.com<TAB>' would find the second occurence of a link in the current frame which is coded as <a herf='www.foo.com/list.html'>link</a> I wouldn't go for something so specific at this time, but if you like, you can start studying the Knuth-Morris-Pratt algorithm in findtext.c, and evaluate from there. Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2003

Re: animated GIF in dillo

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Kosta, > Hi Jorge, Hi! > I apologize to send you an email( you probably very > busy). Thanks. Please use the mailing list for consecutive emails, that way other developers could also respond and help. > I try to do an animated GIF in dillo and I could not > make it. I couldn't draw the consecutive frames and to > show them with gtk+ functions( I'm not familiar with > gtk+). Go to our [links] section and download the GTK+ docs. That will help a lot. > I will appreciate if you give me a clue or tell me is > that implemented in some dillo version( I'm using > 0.7.1). OK. Don't use 0.7.1, get 0.7.2. No, we haven't implemented animated GIFS. I think gtk's timeout functions are a good choice for triggering the frame display change. I'd start there. Note that some of us are *very* happy without animated gifs, so a dillorc option to disable animation is a must! Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo and Zaurus

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Fri, 23 May 2003 dontodd(a)columbus.rr.com wrote: > I just got a Zaurus SL-5500 and was wondering if anyone has built Dillo > for that. I'm running Open Zaurus 3.2. I haven't received any email indicating that it works on the Zaurus. :( > Where would I begin? I don't know. Maybe start looking what other handhelds (where Dillo runs) have in common with the Zaurus, and what not. > Sorry for such a newb question! Sorry for such a dissapointing answer! ;) Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2003