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RE: [Dillo-dev] Frames

by Sean Kelly

I don't recall where I read it, but I did see somewhere in the project documentation that there is no intention of supporting frames now or ever (did I misread?) - I recall the text citing that frames are deprecated and will not be implemented. What I'm interested to find out is who declared them deprecated? I just glanced at W3C's HTML 4.01 spec and it goes into full detail on frames implementation without mentioning the "D" word. I'm having a hard time understanding the reasoning behind a motion to make frames a thing of the past so quickly, especially in the context of a "lightweight" browser which has no animated graphics, Java applet or JavaScript support, any one of which might be an adequate substitute for the functionality which frames provides. It seems to me there are plenty of applications for all of these features and that Dillo is mildly handicapped to not support any of them. Complex undertakings though, I know - not complaining, just observing/conversating ;-) - Sean Kelly - skelly(a)argoentgroup.com -----Original Message----- From: dillo-dev-admin(a)auriga.wearlab.de [mailto:dillo-dev-admin@auriga.wearlab.de] On Behalf Of Peter Milne Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:16 PM To: dillo-dev(a)auriga.wearlab.de Subject: [Dillo-dev] Frames Hi All, Is there any speculation on when Dillo will be frame ready? I would love to use Dillo for Squirrelmail. Thanks, -- ~~~Pete~~~ http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com _______________________________________________ Dillo-dev mailing list Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev

July 24, 2003

RE: [Dillo-dev] Directions for building on Cygwin (draft)

by Eric GAUDET

Thanks! I tried it in my office where I have cygwin+xfree already installed, and it was really easy. I did not have the problem with /usr/local/... for gtk. How difficult would it be to use dynamic libraries? If you give me a few hints, I'm willing to experiment in that direction. Best, EG -- En reponse de "[Dillo-dev] Directions for building on Cygwin (draft)" de Kelson Vibber, le 23-Jul-2003 : > Hello! I have a draft of directions for building Dillo on Cygwin: > > http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo/cygwin.html > > Please let me know if anything is missing, wrong, or unclear. > > Thanks! > > > Kelson Vibber > www.hyperborea.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric GAUDET <eric(a)rti-zone.org> Le 23-Jul-2003 a 18:55:27 "Parler pour ne rien dire et ne rien dire pour parler sont les deux principes majeurs et rigoureux de tous ceux qui feraient mieux de la fermer avant de l'ouvrir." ------------------------------------------------------------------------

July 24, 2003

Excellent work... (fwd)

by Jorge Arellano Cid

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:12:36 +0000 From: d4RK <darkiron(a)tiscali.fr> To: Jorge <jcid(a)softhome.net> Subject: Excellent work... Dillo: the ***fast*** browser I was awaiting for ... No boring stuff like other browsers, all is so simple and easy-to-use! I just come to compile the last version (0.7.2) with a customized toolbar (pixmaps.jg.h), this is now PERFECT :) I don't find u really have to add something (even if I need Javascript for online shopping sometimes, & I've to launch another browser ;) POST-IT: just a remark about the PNG support, and the alpha channel: once the browser has loaded the picture, if it's used again -on a different zone- the background (which should be 'transparent') remains with the first background color...a cache pb? LAST WORD: Thank u !!!!

July 24, 2003

thanks (fwd)

by Jorge Arellano Cid

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:09:00 +0200 From: Nicolas <czc(a)free.fr> To: jcid(a)softhome.net Subject: thanks Hello, First of all, sorry for my english :) , I want to thank you and other developers of the Dillo browser, for all that you're already done. I've got a 486 DX4 75Mhz , 24Mo RAM, 3Go HD, on a 640x480 TFT display with Debian Sid. Under Xfree 3.3.6 with the fluxbox window manager, Dillo is what i use to see the web because it's really fast even on my old laptop. I know links and lynx, but i prefer see the web with colors fonts and pictures. Dillo widgets seem to be based on GTK1.2, it's slower than lesstif but reasonnably responsive, and good looking. [...]

July 24, 2003

Frames

by Peter Milne

Hi All, Is there any speculation on when Dillo will be frame ready? I would love to use Dillo for Squirrelmail. Thanks, -- ~~~Pete~~~ http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

July 24, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] [PATCH] new version of Dillo tab patch, please test...

by Frank de Lange

On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 10:36:51PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > Hi Frank, > > thanks for the great patch. I noticed a small inconvenience: > > The keyboard shortcut for <Back> (<Backspace>) does not work properly. It > goes back two pages back in the history. The <Back> button works fine though. Yeah, just noticed that as well... Will look into it for the next version of the patch, RSN... Thanks... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

July 23, 2003

Directions for building on Cygwin (draft)

by Kelson Vibber

Hello! I have a draft of directions for building Dillo on Cygwin: http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo/cygwin.html Please let me know if anything is missing, wrong, or unclear. Thanks! Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

July 23, 2003

[PATCH] new version of Dillo tab patch, please test...

by Frank de Lange

Hi'all! I have released a new version of my tabs patch for Dillo. Head for the patch website (geocities... start your junkbusters and privoxies...) and grab it while it is fresh (see below for download location). The patch was made against 20030723 CVS. Notable improvements include: - focus is on docwin on tab switch, so keyboard navigation works - focus is on location bar on empty new tab/new window - Control-click on link opens new tab, shift-click opens new window - new pref: tab_on_middle_click (default:NO), open a tab (instead of a new window) on link_middle_click - left-to-right tab deletion order (should this be a pref?) known issues: - in fullscreen mode, the 'show controls' button (in the lower right corner of the screen) disappears when switching tabs. Double-click in the window will restore the controls. The button IS reparented, it is just not shown. The widget does not seem to raise it when needed. - when loading a tab in the background, dillo sometimes (quite often actually) gives a Gdk-CRITICAL warning: Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow.c: line 1274 (gdk_window_set_cursor): assertion `window != NULL' failed. This seems to be a widget issue (the widget tries to set a cursor on a non-existing window, see earlier messages for more explanation). (Sebastian, have you looked into this yet?) Please... test this patch, and tell me what works/what does not/what you want to see changed... The patch does not just give Dillo tab functionality, it also provides a framework for implementing frames (no pun intended) by separating 'document' from 'interface' code. So, the sooner it is in CVS, the better... As always, you can disable the tab functionality with --disable-tabs. You'll still gain the focus improvements and the shift-click functionality, as well as the document/interface separation. Download the patch here: http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank/dillo-20030723-tabs.patch.gz size: 41825 bytes (gzipped, as downloaded) 170684 bytes (uncompressed) md5sum: aa2cd8b800f323c348ff4a381b406bac (gzipped, as downloaded) 03f991b4c3c1cb79609c05879d998efd (uncompressed) As always, check the site for the most recent version: http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

July 23, 2003

[BUG] segfault on page-back after bookmark delete

by Frank de Lange

While testing my tab-patch I happened upon a segfault in the current CVS version of Dillo. Do this: 1) go to the bookmarks page 2) select the [modify] link 3) select something to delete (can be the 'Unclassified' section in case you have no bookmarks defined) 4) select the delete operation in the drop-down list 5) press [submit] (the bookmark(s)/section(s) will be deleted) 6) click the back button Instead of going back in history, you'll get a page with TWO bookmark sections (a Bookmarks::modify page, followed by a normal Bookmarks:: page). If you press the 'forward' button at this stage, you'll get a page with THREE bookmarks sections. Press back again, and you'll have FOUR bookmarks sections. Et cetera... 5) press back again you should be looking at the 'about:splash' page now 6) to trigger the segfault, either... - press forward or - click any link on the page I submitted a bug for this (bugid = 481) with a short description (that 256 char limit is a bit... limiting...). As this is easy to try for yourself, I have not included trace info... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

July 23, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Another delay for 0.7.3 :(

by Madis Janson

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > GTK+2 : It'd be very interesting to know how much overhead it > adds: is it slower?, how much bigger? etc. Please > note that one of the main causes for GTK+ being very > slow, is GTK+ themes (but they can be avoided!). > If someone has these answers, or pointer to docs. > it'd be very interesting to follow the thread. > one interesting mail thread about gtk2 signals slowness: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2001-May/msg00398.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2001-May/msg00404.html which also suggests, that using G_SIGNAL_TYPE_STATIC_SCOPE will make gtk2 signals a bit faster. http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/gobject-Signals.html#G-SIGNA…

July 22, 2003