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New mailing list for Dillo

by Rodrigo Arias

Hi all, The people at mailman3.com has agreed on hosting Dillo mailing list free of charge as part of their open-source program (thanks for the pointer Charles), for which I'm very grateful :-) With the help of Andreas, I have put together most of the mailing list archives I could gather from the old server, although there are some posts and attachments missing. The objective of this list is to continue the discussion for the development of Dillo[1] and related topics, in the same way dillo-dev was used before but with moderation to keep a friendly tone. [1]: https://dillo-browser.github.io/ The GitHub platform[2] is used for now to hold the repository, store issues and to run the CI tests, until a more suitable platform is available. [2]: https://github.com/dillo-browser/dillo I hope we can finally made the 3.1 release soon (as in the next month), so distributions can get the new release (after years) in their package repositories. Best regards, Rodrigo.

Jan. 28, 2024

patch for dillo and openssl 1.1

by itsme_410＠yahoo.com

Hello, Dillo's https stopped working on F26. It turned out that that was because of the move to openssl v1.1. The kind folks (in particular Matias Ellert) made a patch for F26 which works for both the old version of dillo with openssl v1.0 and v1.1. I am including his patch here in case there is interest in merging this upstream (which is the best place to put it). Best wishes!

Sept. 16, 2017

Howto get dillo's new rendering engine

by rashad.kanavath＠c-s.fr

Hello all, I read from Jorge's mail from archive[1] that there is an ongoing work on a new rendering engine in dillo. I would like to checkout this cool feature. How do I access the code ?. I already have dillo master from mercurial[2]. [1] http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/ [2] https://hg.dillo.org/dillo

Sept. 5, 2017

Access forbidden to the mail-list archives

by andreas＠kemnade.info

Hi, On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:14:46 +0200 rodarima at gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > I was trying to access the mail-list archive found here: > > http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/ > > But I get a 403 response: > I fixed this. Regards, Andreas

Sept. 3, 2017

Access forbidden to the mail-list archives

by rodarima＠gmail.com

Hello, I was trying to access the mail-list archive found here: http://lists.dillo.org/pipermail/dillo-dev/ But I get a 403 response: > Forbidden > You don't have permission to access /pipermail/dillo-dev/ on this server. I can access to the old archives at: https://www.dillo.org/oldmail/ I would like to read previous discussions between 2002 and now. BTW, is there any simple way to open a url in a new tab, on a running dillo instance, from the command line? It would be interesting something like dillo --newtab 'https://www.google.com/' Thanks, Rodrigo.

Aug. 26, 2017

any plans to release dillo 3.1 any time soon?

by itsme_410＠yahoo.com

Hello, Are there any plans to release dillo 3.1 any time soon? >From a very grateful user

July 9, 2017

Delay loading some sites

by dennisn＠dennisn.mooo.com

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 13:30:04 -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 12:36:01PM -0400, Dennis New wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:22:43 +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > > Hm, for me both sites seem to load reasonably fast here, but I > > > just tested it once right now. > > > You could try something like this (with show_msg=YES): > > > > > > dillo http://craigslist.org/ | gawk '{ print strftime("[%Y-%m-%d % > > > H:% M:%S]"), $0 }' > > > > > > Maybe that gives a hint what is taking up time. > > > > It's something in the Nav_open_url process. I don't have this delay > > using other browsers, so I don't think it's a DNS issue. > > > > [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Nav_open_url: new url='http://craigslist.org/' > > [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Dns_server [0]: craigslist.org is > > 208.82.237.129 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Connecting to 208.82.237.129 > > [2017-07-07 12:30:58] ** ERROR **: [Dpi_read_comm_keys] No such > > file or directory [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Dpi_blocking_start_dpid: > > try 1 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Nav_open_url: new > > url='http://www.craigslist.org/' [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Dns_server > > [0]: www.craigslist.org is 208.82.237.1 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] > > Connecting to 208.82.237.1 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Nav_open_url: new > > url='https://www.craigslist.org/' [2017-07-07 12:30:59] > > Nav_open_url: new url='https://geo.craigslist.org/' [2017-07-07 > > 12:32:30] Nav_open_url: new > > url='https://montreal.craigslist.ca' [2017-07-07 12:32:30] Cookies: > > not sent for request by 'geo.craigslist.org' for > > 'montreal.craigslist.ca' > > Well, there's clearly a time taken by dpid to start. Fire a new > dillo, ask for the bookmarks (this will get dpid running), then go to > craigslist.org and see if the delay persists. The delay persists. > If yes, try with another DNS. Other browsers seem to default to > google ones. I tried with only google's 8.8.8.8 DNS server, same thing. I think this could be something else. The delay happens after the Nav_open_url https://geo.craigslist.org line. I noticed that with the links terminal browser, the DNS activity is four pairs of A and AAAA queries: -- dns with links -- 06:36 : query[A] craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:36 : query[AAAA] craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:36 : query[A] www.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:36 : query[AAAA] www.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:36 : query[A] geo.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:36 : query[AAAA] geo.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:36 : query[A] montreal.craigslist.ca from 10.0.0.1 06:36 : query[AAAA] montreal.craigslist.ca from 10.0.0.1 -- While dillo has an extra www.craigslist.org query, and none of the last three have a corresponding AAAA query: -- dns with dillo 06:46 : query[A] craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:46 : query[AAAA] craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:47 : query[A] www.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:47 : query[AAAA] www.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:47 : query[A] www.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 06:47 : query[A] geo.craigslist.org from 10.0.0.1 08:18 : query[A] montreal.craigslist.ca from 10.0.0.1 --

July 8, 2017

Delay loading some sites

by jcid＠dillo.org

Hi, On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 06:22:43PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > Hm, for me both sites seem to load reasonably fast here, but I just > tested it once right now. > You could try something like this (with show_msg=YES): > > dillo http://craigslist.org/ | gawk '{ print strftime("[%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S]"), $0 }' > > Maybe that gives a hint what is taking up time. That example has plenty of redirections and DNS queries. This is, the delay depends on network latency and DNS server response time (which is often measured in seconds for some popular providers). Just count the number of connections and DNS queries! jcid at devuan:~$ dillo http://craigslist.org/ Nav_open_url: new url='http://craigslist.org/' Dns_server [0]: craigslist.org is 208.82.237.129 Connecting to 208.82.237.129:80 Nav_open_url: new url='http://www.craigslist.org/' Dns_server [0]: www.craigslist.org is 208.82.237.225 Connecting to 208.82.237.225:80 Nav_open_url: new url='https://www.craigslist.org/' Connecting to 208.82.237.225:443 Nav_open_url: new url='https://geo.craigslist.org/' Dns_server [0]: geo.craigslist.org is 208.82.237.225 Connecting to 208.82.237.225:443 Nav_open_url: new url='https://santiago.craigslist.org/' Dns_server [0]: santiago.craigslist.org is 208.82.237.146 Connecting to 208.82.237.146:443 HTH. -- Cheers Jorge.-

July 7, 2017

Delay loading some sites

by dennisn＠dennisn.mooo.com

On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:22:43 +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > Hm, for me both sites seem to load reasonably fast here, but I just > tested it once right now. > You could try something like this (with show_msg=YES): > > dillo http://craigslist.org/ | gawk '{ print strftime("[%Y-%m-%d %H:% > M:%S]"), $0 }' > > Maybe that gives a hint what is taking up time. It's something in the Nav_open_url process. I don't have this delay using other browsers, so I don't think it's a DNS issue. [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Nav_open_url: new url='http://craigslist.org/' [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Dns_server [0]: craigslist.org is 208.82.237.129 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Connecting to 208.82.237.129 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] ** ERROR **: [Dpi_read_comm_keys] No such file or directory [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Dpi_blocking_start_dpid: try 1 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Nav_open_url: new url='http://www.craigslist.org/' [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Dns_server [0]: www.craigslist.org is 208.82.237.1 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Connecting to 208.82.237.1 [2017-07-07 12:30:58] Nav_open_url: new url='https://www.craigslist.org/' [2017-07-07 12:30:59] Nav_open_url: new url='https://geo.craigslist.org/' [2017-07-07 12:32:30] Nav_open_url: new url='https://montreal.craigslist.ca' [2017-07-07 12:32:30] Cookies: not sent for request by 'geo.craigslist.org' for 'montreal.craigslist.ca'

July 7, 2017

Delay loading some sites

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

Hm, for me both sites seem to load reasonably fast here, but I just tested it once right now. You could try something like this (with show_msg=YES): dillo http://craigslist.org/ | gawk '{ print strftime("[%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S]"), $0 }' Maybe that gives a hint what is taking up time. Cheers, Johannes On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 09:49:35AM +1200, James C wrote: > Yes. For me, meetup.com is often bad. > > On 04/07/2017, Dennis New <dennisn at dennisn.mooo.com> wrote: > > Is anyone else experiencing a long delay (many seconds) before some > > sites load, like: > > > > http://craigslist.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dillo-dev mailing list > > Dillo-dev at dillo.org > > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev at dillo.org > http://lists.dillo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev

July 7, 2017