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[Dillo-dev]Preparing the 0.8.3 release (please read and test)

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi Guys, We are preparing the dillo-0.8.3 release. Probably the most interesting feature inside of it will be the just commited "W3C + heuristics" parsing method. From the ChangeLog: <q> + * Added some 'undefined ASCII' to latin1 character conversions. + * Added the "w3c_plus_heuristics" option to dillorc. + - * Introduced a light-weight heuristic algorithm over the W3C parsing + scheme (allows for slightly better rendering: w3c_plus_heuristics=YES). </q> This is an old idea suggested by Rubén Espinoza. I merged it with the current W3C parsing, and the end result is better rendering on some sites. For instance: http://www.arts-design-team.com/good_design_starts_here.php?jump=intro http://linuxtoday.com http://www.cnn.com/ The good news is that the bug-meter also works with this scheme and that as it was merged with the newest parser features, it is _expected_ to provide even better rendering than the venerable dillo-0.7.3. So now is testing time! Please get the latest code from the CVS and compare it with 0.8.2's rendering. Look at your favorite sites and see how it works for you. Feedback is very welcomed. BTW, I'm planning to add a couple of FAQ entries to explain this. What the questions and answers will be, depends on your feedback. By now, all you have is this small explanation (and the one inside dillorc) ;) -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 21, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]Extension/plugin question...

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 05:23:35PM +0300, Daniel Fairhead wrote: > > Why isn't the magic button there then? > > > > Our main problem is lack of developers, Sebastian and I are > > covered with other works we regard as higher priority, so handy > > task as this (and several others) keep on waiting... > > > > If somebody here wants to implement this menu button in a clean > > way (not as an ad-hoc hack), it'd be very welcomed. > > > > In the same spirit, if someone here has development skills and > > wants to contribute, please let us know. We have plenty of small > > to big size tasks waiting for a developer to work them out. > > I'd be willing to have a try at it. I'm particually good at it, but I'll try. > Any hints or anything would be cool :-) Good! You can start by looking at the patch by Brian. Then look at the force_my_colors dillorc option and hook it to the menu that will pop-up from the new toolbox icon placed to the left of the bug-meter (fvwm comes with nice tiny icons to choose from). Look at the bug meter's menu for an idea of how to implement the menu. Note that the bug-meter menu also appears in the right-click over page one, so you can look at the code for the BACK button right click menu for a simpler example. Hook the menu to the left click. Start with a single menu entry. "Force my colors" in this case. A check box in the menu entry would be nice to hint the user about the current selected state. Shold you get stuck, just ask. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 17, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]Extension/plugin question...

by Daniel Fairhead

> Why isn't the magic button there then? > > Our main problem is lack of developers, Sebastian and I are > covered with other works we regard as higher priority, so handy > task as this (and several others) keep on waiting... > > If somebody here wants to implement this menu button in a clean > way (not as an ad-hoc hack), it'd be very welcomed. > > In the same spirit, if someone here has development skills and > wants to contribute, please let us know. We have plenty of small > to big size tasks waiting for a developer to work them out. I'd be willing to have a try at it. I'm particually good at it, but I'll try. Any hints or anything would be cool :-) Dan -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Sept. 17, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]Extension/plugin question...

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 03:33:53PM -0400, Brian Sammon wrote: > > As occasionly I come across websites (up to around 3 times a day) > > which because of one reason or another display white-on-white, or > > other things like that, and because most of the time I like seeing real > > colours of pages, I quickly added a "use colours" button to the toolbar > > of my local dillo, which (obviously) toggles the use of local colours or > > not. > > Anyway, my question is, as this kind of thing isn't really wanted for > > mainstream/normal dillo, is there any way of writing it as an extension, > > or a plugin, rather than as a patch? Or will there be such a way, ever? > > Something I really miss from my browser from way back when, Mosaic, is the > "Options" menu which had a bunch of checkboxes for options like that. > I would love to see your function (and something related to image loading, > while I'm making out my wish list) show up in a similar menu in dillo. Me too! Funny as it may seem, I've been thinking of the idea for a long time. A small button near the bug meter with a toolbox icon where a bunch of handy options can be set. For instance, the one Brian suggested (force_my_colors), Fit page to window (when tables are too wide), switch parsing method, load/don't_load images, etc. Of course some of them are workarounds and some not, anyway it would help to have some of them. Why isn't the magic button there then? Our main problem is lack of developers, Sebastian and I are covered with other works we regard as higher priority, so handy task as this (and several others) keep on waiting... If somebody here wants to implement this menu button in a clean way (not as an ad-hoc hack), it'd be very welcomed. In the same spirit, if someone here has development skills and wants to contribute, please let us know. We have plenty of small to big size tasks waiting for a developer to work them out. > > [...] > > or a plugin, rather than as a patch? Or will there be such a way, ever? This feature can't be a plugin now. The good news is that there's room for it near the bug meter. ;) -- Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 17, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]Extension/plugin question...

by Brian Sammon

> As occasionly I come across websites (up to around 3 times a day) > which because of one reason or another display white-on-white, or > other things like that, and because most of the time I like seeing real > colours of pages, I quickly added a "use colours" button to the toolbar > of my local dillo, which (obviously) toggles the use of local colours or > not. > Anyway, my question is, as this kind of thing isn't really wanted for > mainstream/normal dillo, is there any way of writing it as an extension, > or a plugin, rather than as a patch? Or will there be such a way, ever? Something I really miss from my browser from way back when, Mosaic, is the "Options" menu which had a bunch of checkboxes for options like that. I would love to see your function (and something related to image loading, while I'm making out my wish list) show up in a similar menu in dillo.

Sept. 16, 2004

[Dillo-dev]Extension/plugin question...

by Daniel Fairhead

Hi, As occasionly I come across websites (up to around 3 times a day) which because of one reason or another display white-on-white, or other things like that, and because most of the time I like seeing real colours of pages, I quickly added a "use colours" button to the toolbar of my local dillo, which (obviously) toggles the use of local colours or not. Anyway, my question is, as this kind of thing isn't really wanted for mainstream/normal dillo, is there any way of writing it as an extension, or a plugin, rather than as a patch? Or will there be such a way, ever? Cheers, Dan -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Sept. 13, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]https

by Garrett Kajmowicz

> Thanks - I hadn't tried it for a bit and was pleasantly surprised to > find that the functionality is now sufficient (provided you ignore the > certification messages) to post to the playstation2-linux group. > > But I didn't manage to get into my amazon account - I think I've managed > that with previous dillo-ssl's. Is there a work around? > This was with the x86 version. Will now try out a ps2-compilation. The biggest problem I have run into is Dillo itself caching the pages. Pages sent over SSL frequently will have the same URL but different content. If you disable caching (not sure how) you will notice significant improvements in functionality. - Garrett

Sept. 12, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]https

by Garrett Kajmowicz

On September 12, 2004 12:05 am, Brian Hechinger wrote: > i've just started to get into this myself, and i've come to the point where > i've realized that i'm not every going to send any money to any "proper" > CA, so i've generated a CA Root Cert of my own. how so i import this into > the dillo cert chain? i've not looked at this at all and should probably > get the latest dillo before saying anything else [0] at this point. :) > > -brian > > [0] or anything at all for that matter? ;) Simple - just toss it into either /etc/ssl/certs/ or ~/.dillo/certs/ OpenSSL will pick up the certificate from there. - Garrett

Sept. 12, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]https

by robert w hall

In article <200409111409.13477.gkajmowi(a)tbaytel.net>, Garrett Kajmowicz <gkajmowi(a)tbaytel.net> writes >> Any more news here? >> Things seemed to be going rather well a month back :-) > >I sent in a patch a month or so ago, but I don't know if there is much more to >be done at this stage. Things seem to work well, and most error conditions >notify the user specifically. Those that don't give a generic error message >(very unlikely cases). > >I'm not sure where to go from here. The dpi infrastructure makes it hard to >do some things, but I guess it might be possible to convert the plugin to a >process. Other than that, I don't know if there is much more that needs to >be done. > >- Garrett > > Thanks - I hadn't tried it for a bit and was pleasantly surprised to find that the functionality is now sufficient (provided you ignore the certification messages) to post to the playstation2-linux group. But I didn't manage to get into my amazon account - I think I've managed that with previous dillo-ssl's. Is there a work around? This was with the x86 version. Will now try out a ps2-compilation. When 0.8.3 is finalised it's probably time for a new ps2-rpm version - the last was 0.7.2 or so... (rpm - ugh! any offers? I'm a slackware .tgz man myself) Bob >_______________________________________________ >Dillo-dev mailing list >Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de >http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev -- robert w hall

Sept. 12, 2004

Re: [Dillo-dev]https

by Brian Hechinger

On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 02:09:13PM -0400, Garrett Kajmowicz wrote: > > I sent in a patch a month or so ago, but I don't know if there is much more to > be done at this stage. Things seem to work well, and most error conditions > notify the user specifically. Those that don't give a generic error message > (very unlikely cases). > > I'm not sure where to go from here. The dpi infrastructure makes it hard to > do some things, but I guess it might be possible to convert the plugin to a > process. Other than that, I don't know if there is much more that needs to > be done. i've just started to get into this myself, and i've come to the point where i've realized that i'm not every going to send any money to any "proper" CA, so i've generated a CA Root Cert of my own. how so i import this into the dillo cert chain? i've not looked at this at all and should probably get the latest dillo before saying anything else [0] at this point. :) -brian [0] or anything at all for that matter? ;) -- "The cats tend to administer themselves, and contrary to the expected facts, the house and everything in it was installed for their benefit." -- Nic Clews

Sept. 12, 2004