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Problems with gziped content encodings pages and proposal

by Diego Sáenz

Hello. I am a daily user of dillo and i am finding problems with pages served with content-encoding = gzip and dillo mime detection code. For example when i try to open en.wikipedia.org or es.wikipedia.org dillo says "HTTP warning: Content-Type 'text/html; charset=utf-8' doesn't match the real data" When download with wget y see that the problem is that the page is gziped so i think that now wikipedia sends pages with conten-encoding: gzip. Proposal I have a proposal to use DPIs to manage protocols, mime, encodings and maybe scripts whitout modifing dillo source code each time that a dpi is added. Before in the list i have defended to have mime, protocols and script DPIs that call the right DPI for each task when dillo ask for a unknown mime type, protocol or script but this do not fit very well with the DPI infrastructure and need more DPI process runing and that it is better to avoid. Sorry, i think that it was the better option. I think that the way to fit mime handling with DPIs is to use the documented (but not fully implemented) concept of DPI service. In DPIs docs dillo do not call directly a DPI it ask dpid for a service and dpid returns a DPI. In this way various DPIs can be installed for a given service and the user can use whatever he what. In fact in the code dillo ask dpid for a service, but dpid can not handle more than a DPI for a given service(it do extrange things). Basic idea: When dillo do not known how to access to a url like mms:/something or show a mime type like image/xpm it can ask for a protocol_mms service or mime_image%2Fxpm service. We can fix dpid too. It will only need a configuration file to store user preferences for each service. Details Protocol DPIs can translate the unknown protocol to http (like https, ftp and data DPIs) or show a html page with actions about the protocol. For example a mms DPI can show a page with options to hear the mms stream(with mplayer) or download it (with mimms). An extension to the download_gui DPI to support downloading unknown protocols can be usefull. When download is not one supported by wget it can send open_url to dillo or ask dpid ... Mime types need a mime_x-dillo%2Fx-unknown because a file can be send without content-type and dillo can fail to discover the mime. A DPI handling it can use 'file --mime ' and resend the file to dillo with correct mime. A way to not resend the file will be better, maybe dillo can cache it if the file is small and is not a local file. If it is local it can send the url or path. A dpid more flexible configuration is needed so users can use the 'file --mime' DPI with occet/stream if they want. Using a path to the DPI with base at ~/.dillo/dpi or the dpi_lib in dpidrc can be sufficient. Surely a fallback DPI can be usefull. If dpid can not return a DPI because there is not service for that mime dillo can ask for a mime_x-dillo%2Fx-service-not-found or mime_x-dillo%2Fx-fallback that DPI can show an error or list DPIs to download and install or show a search engine For security reasons a mime_... and inlined_mime_... groups of services can be needed so an image or an object tag data automatically loaded from a page to show can be diferent from user clicked ones. Content encoding can use a group of encoded_... service names. (content_gzip for example) This do not need to detect the encoding because if there is not content-encode it is not encoded. Fallback can be needed. Scripts need more thought but if dillo send scripts tags to script_aplication%2Fjavascript and implement html intrinsic events a DPI can start to do easy things as redirect, status line scrolls(sigh) or javascript based links. (javascript based links can be done with a protocol_javascript easely) I mail this because i want coments and help. If you has read this boring (and bad writed) text until here, please do not think on comments or help, Just do if! :) Diego. PS: I have a debt of a parser code to dillo. It only need a clean up but is finished and have less size that the old glib parser code. :P

Aug. 24, 2006

printing from dillo

by Globe Trotter

is it possible to print a webpage from dillo? many thanks and best wishes! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

July 13, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Re: how do i unsubscribe?

by Patrick Shanahan

* Andrew A. Gill <superluser(a)frontiernet.net> [07-03-06 19:34]: > Yes, I know that I'm a few weeks late to comment on this, but I > genuinely HATE HATE HATE these unsubscribe requests. > > So here's a quick thing on how to unsubscribe: amazing how much information can be found in an email header: List-Id: For dillo web browser developers <dillo-dev.dillo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev>, <mailto:dillo-dev-request@dillo.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: </pipermail> List-Post: <mailto:dillo-dev@dillo.org> List-Help: <mailto:dillo-dev-request@dillo.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev>, <mailto:dillo-dev-request@dillo.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: dillo-dev-bounces(a)dillo.org Errors-To: dillo-dev-bounces(a)dillo.org -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

July 4, 2006

Re: how do i unsubscribe?

by Andrew A. Gill

Yes, I know that I'm a few weeks late to comment on this, but I genuinely HATE HATE HATE these unsubscribe requests. So here's a quick thing on how to unsubscribe: <http://www.things.org/~jym/fqa/unsubscribe.html> How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List By Jym Dyer I'm on a lot of electronic mailing lists. A deluge of "unsubscribe" and "take me off this list" messages on multiple lists inspired the following, which I send out whenever it's needed. The feedback I get tells me it's useful. When you send "unsubscribe" requests to an email list, it lands in the mailboxes of hundreds of people who can't unsubscribe you. I can't unsubscribe you. Try the stuff below. Clip 'n' save these instructions for future reference. =============8<=============Cut-Here=============8<============= How To Unsubscribe From Any Email List 1. Look at the messages you've been getting on the list. Do they have "how to unsubscribe" messages near the end, or an email address to use in a "List-Unsubscribe:" header at the top? If so, follow those instructions. 2. Most lists these days, including all lists hosted by the big two (Yahoo! Groups and Topica), have an "-unsubscribe" alias for this purpose. For example, if you're on the WHATEVER list, either WHATEVER-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com or WHATEVER-unsubscribe(a)topica.com would be the right address to use. (For the rest of this memo, let's assume that the WHATEVER list is at example.com -- that is, the alias is WHATEVER(a)example.com. If the list has a name like "WHATEVER-L", you might try steps 6 and 7 first.) 3. Otherwise, first send a request to the "-request" alias. For our example, that would be WHATEVER-request(a)example.com. This is often read by a human being, so write accordingly. In theory, all email lists are supposed to implement this address (though Yahoo! Groups does not). 4. If you get no response from the above, send mail to the "majordomo" alias. That's majordomo(a)example.com for our example. If the list is administered by the majordomo software, you'll get instructions for unsubscribing mailed back to you. 5. If you get no response, send mail to the "owner-" alias. For our example, owner-WHATEVER(a)example.com. This should go to the human who administers the list. 6. If you get no response, send mail to "LISTSERV". For our example, that address would be LISTSERV(a)example.com. The text of your message should be "SIGNOFF WHATEVER". 7. If you get no response, send mail to the "listproc" alias. For our example, that address would be listproc(a)example.com. The text of your message should be "unsubscribe WHATEVER". 8. If you get no response, send mail to the site "postmaster". For our example, that address is postmaster(a)example.com. Mention that you tried the previous five steps, to no avail. 9. If you get no response, send mail to "root". Our example address is root(a)example.com. Mention that you tried the previous six steps, to no avail. 10. If -- and only if -- all the above fail, send a message to the list itself. Make it courteous, particularly since the vast majority of the people reading it can't do a thing about it. The message should say something like, "How do I get off this list?", not "UNSUBSCRIBE." Try to avoid setting off a bunch of "me too" messages by saying something like, "Please don't chime in with a bunch of 'I want to unsubscribe too' messages." It's ridiculous that there are so many different ways to do this, and consequentially, so many email lists cluttered up with "UNSUBSCRIBE/ME TOO" messages. You'd think there'd be a standard of sorts, and there is: the "-request" alias dates back to the early days of the Internet. Smart systems like majordomo actually (1) handle messages that were sent to the "-request" alias and (2) filter out the "UNSUBSCRIBE/ME TOO" messages. It's a shame that newer stuff has come along that doesn't do either of these things, but since it's on the web, people seem excited about it (gee whiz!) even though it's a huge step backwards in technology. The "-unsubscribe" alias is a newer standard that's starting to gain ground, but that's no help for many of the older lists that haven't gotten around to implementing new features.

July 3, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] how do i unsubscribe?

by Kelson Vibber

Right here: http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev There's an unsubscribe form at the bottom of the page.

June 12, 2006

how do i unsubscribe?

by mike obrien

most of the time, i have no idea what tf you guys are talking about. mike

June 12, 2006

Doubt...

by Sandesh Sethia

Hello everyone, This is my first post on this group. I am a novice programmer who wanted to know that can I use GTKDFB for creating a PNG image of any window (browser especially) delivered to the GTKDFB toolkit through a C++ program ? Please someone do let me know at the earliest..... Thanks Sandesh

June 12, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by newman.x＠seznam.cz

> BTW, please send me some latin2 URLs for development tests. > > -- > Cheers > Jorge.- Hi Jorge, http://www.root.cz/ http://www.abclinuxu.cz/ http://www.wp.pl/ should be fine. Michal

May 30, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:58:03PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: > Dear Dillo developers, > > I have been using Dillo since about 0.2.x, and would like to > start this email with "Hail Caesar and everything". Thank you! > > I am really looking forward to the day I replace Firefox with > Dillo completely. These are the reasons I won't do it today: > > 1. Internally, Dillo uses GTK1, which, internally, uses LATIN1. > As I am Czech, the last lines of my install process would be > > $ make install > $ strings src/dillo | grep iso8859 > $ sed -e 's/iso8859-1/iso8859-2/g;' < ./src/dillo > ~/bin/dillo > > which happens to work. I suppose that the transition to FLTK > will make me able to vies pages in other charsets too. BTW, please send me some latin2 URLs for development tests. -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2006

Re: [Dillo-dev] Why I don't switch from Firefox today

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi, On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 10:46:56PM +0300, Joonas Saarinen wrote: > One of my wishes would be to have some limit for the cache growing > endlessly. I run Dillo on a old Libretto 100CT (166MHz/32MB) and if surfing > for long periods (especially when viewing large images) the system goes on > knees swapping and eventually Dillo gets killed for hogging all the memory. > :S Of course there's generally a lot of work to do on the browser and this > feature might require significant changes to the code (?)... Not that hard! Just look inside cache.c and add a remove function for images when the cache size surpasses a certain threshold. An algorithm/heuristic that pleases a diverse group of users is much more difficult. You have to care about not removing images that are currently being displayed (e.g. when using multiple Dillo windows, or removing an image that's being displayed in a page that loads lots of images). Al this blurb reduces to a ref count. -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 30, 2006