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Thoughts on revision control

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 11:57:57AM +0000, Jeremy Henty wrote: > > I've been using git to manage the Dillo source locally. I just > installed mercurial to experiment with. Things I like about git are > the ability to rebase, ie. reorder patches. This is neat because I > can develop a patch on top of my local modifications and then push it > down the stack so that I submit a patch against the pristine source > rather than my customised version. The ability to stash your current > changes in a temporary branch is useful too. You could do all this > with explicit branches, but it would be more involved and git gives > you nice, quick and easy ways to do the same thing. > > Mercurial seems to be the same sort of beast, though perhaps it is a > bit less of a "Swiss Army Chainsaw" than git. I'd be surprised if > there were any real issues using either to manage Dillo since I doubt > we'd be using anything more than the basic facilities that both offer. > I'd prefer git but only out of laziness as it's the one I already know > (which means I should probably investigate mercurial just to broaden > my mind if nothing else). It's the same for me with git. I wouldn't mind learning to use it. Given the current patch-rate we could also easily stick with CVS for the main repository I think. It's just for the longer living css-prototype branch where I wanted something more comfortable than CVS. Regards, Johannes

Dec. 9, 2008

how about a form menu?

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 11:10:59PM +0000, corvid wrote: > I was playing around with making a form menu. > So far: > 1) Submit. Nicer from the user's perspective than prefs.generate_submit. Yes, this seems cleaner. Is it possible to get the menu on a form with just a single text input? I assume one has to right-click on the form area. > 2) Reset. Not really needed when you can just press back and forward. > 3) Show/Hide Hiddens. Lets you edit them, which I believe the user should > have the power to do. That would be really nice! > ..and thinking of making an Info option to show submission charset and, oh, > whatever else. Maybe some sort of save/load form data to/from file? Cheers, Johannes

Dec. 9, 2008

empty html elements ... and Shift+{Left, Right} change

by thomas-forum＠orgis.org

Am Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:54:18 -0800 (PST) schrieb bf <bf2006a(a)yahoo.com>: > Leanness and speed are always nice, but are they and the ability to reduce > the size of an existing instance necessarily mutually exclusive? Unless > the introduction of a way to empty caches/buffers would require a huge > amount of new code, it they don't seem to be. I second that... being able to free RAM should be a good thing. I usually keep apps open for a long time, especially at least one browser window. Alrighty then, Thomas.

Dec. 9, 2008

empty html elements ... and Shift+{Left, Right} change

by corvid＠lavabit.com

b. wrote: > Another note: I've noticed that with dillo cvs snapshots dated after > Nov. 9 there is a regression (or at least a change) in the behavior of > Shift+{Left,Right}: in the later snapshots I lose the ability to shift > to other tabs with these keys after right-clicking on a link in the current > tab with the mouse, and can only regain this ability to shift tabs after > opening a new tab with a middle-click on a link in the current tab, or by > navigating to an existing tab with the mouse and closing it, or by quickly > opening and closing a blank tab with Ctrl+T,Ctrl+Q combination. Any of > these methods significantly slows browsing with many tabs open. Was this > intended? Is there a new dillorc option to control this behavior, or some > new key/mouse controls that I missed? You could try this:

Dec. 9, 2008

empty html elements ... and Shift+{Left, Right} change

by bf2006a＠yahoo.com

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, corvid <corvid(a)lavabit.com> wrote: > From: corvid <corvid(a)lavabit.com> > Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] empty html elements ... and Shift+{Left, Right} change > To: dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 7:39 PM > bf wrote: > > I'm surprised > > we don't have a feature to clear image > caches/buffers without restart -- or > > am I missing something?). > > I think a good thing is to keep dillo nimble enough that it > feels more like a utility than an application. I can open > and use instances whenever I need them, much like rxvt > (and unlike xterm, which I have to wait for). > Leanness and speed are always nice, but are they and the ability to reduce the size of an existing instance necessarily mutually exclusive? Unless the introduction of a way to empty caches/buffers would require a huge amount of new code, it they don't seem to be. Consider the following scenario: you've opened a number of tabs in one instance, containing content you'd still like to look over. Then you open a few more, and find that the new pages occupy a large amount of memory, which you need for other uses. Right now, you can't close these tabs and clear the cache/buffer to bring the memory footprint back down to a lower level. Sure, you could kill the entire instance and start over, but what about the first set of tabs that you're not done with? You'd have to navigate back to each of them in a new instance, which could take a lot of time. You could mitigate that by bookmarking them, but that still takes time, and then you may have to clean your bookmarks up, and unless you're using a cache other than that of the browser, you'd have to download them again, too. This doesn't seem desirable. Am I missing something? > > Another note: I've noticed that with dillo cvs > snapshots dated after > > Nov. 9 there is a regression (or at least a change) in > the behavior of > > Shift+{Left,Right}: in the later snapshots I lose the > ability to shift > > to other tabs with these keys after right-clicking on > a link in the current > > tab with the mouse, and can only regain this ability > to shift tabs after > > opening a new tab with a middle-click on a link in the > current tab, or by > > navigating to an existing tab with the mouse and > closing it, or by quickly > > opening and closing a blank tab with Ctrl+T,Ctrl+Q > combination. Any of > > these methods significantly slows browsing with many > tabs open. Was this > > intended? Is there a new dillorc option to control > this behavior, or some > > new key/mouse controls that I missed? > > Hmmm. I must have broken it with > http://cvs.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/dillo2/dw/fltkviewbase.cc.d… > A voice offstage right: "Shame! Shame!"

Dec. 9, 2008

empty html elements ... and Shift+{Left, Right} change

by corvid＠lavabit.com

bf wrote: > I'm surprised > we don't have a feature to clear image caches/buffers without restart -- or > am I missing something?). I think a good thing is to keep dillo nimble enough that it feels more like a utility than an application. I can open and use instances whenever I need them, much like rxvt (and unlike xterm, which I have to wait for). > Another note: I've noticed that with dillo cvs snapshots dated after > Nov. 9 there is a regression (or at least a change) in the behavior of > Shift+{Left,Right}: in the later snapshots I lose the ability to shift > to other tabs with these keys after right-clicking on a link in the current > tab with the mouse, and can only regain this ability to shift tabs after > opening a new tab with a middle-click on a link in the current tab, or by > navigating to an existing tab with the mouse and closing it, or by quickly > opening and closing a blank tab with Ctrl+T,Ctrl+Q combination. Any of > these methods significantly slows browsing with many tabs open. Was this > intended? Is there a new dillorc option to control this behavior, or some > new key/mouse controls that I missed? Hmmm. I must have broken it with http://cvs.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/dillo2/dw/fltkviewbase.cc.d…

Dec. 9, 2008

empty html elements ... and Shift+{Left, Right} change

by bf2006a＠yahoo.com

> > Oh, I committed a new version allowing [ "'] > before />, > and also a self closing element: <x/>. > > This because the former one failed on things like: > > <a href=/html/k_links/Kayden_Kross/> > Kayden Kross > </a> > > Example taken from: > > http://www.freeones.com/html/d_links/Denise_Milani/ > > look at the non-working bottom links, > or elsewhere if you like. :-) Yeah, and of course you really don't want to fail when it comes to Denise or Kayden. (Given the line this "testing" is taken, I'm surprised we don't have a feature to clear image caches/buffers without restart -- or am I missing something?). Another note: I've noticed that with dillo cvs snapshots dated after Nov. 9 there is a regression (or at least a change) in the behavior of Shift+{Left,Right}: in the later snapshots I lose the ability to shift to other tabs with these keys after right-clicking on a link in the current tab with the mouse, and can only regain this ability to shift tabs after opening a new tab with a middle-click on a link in the current tab, or by navigating to an existing tab with the mouse and closing it, or by quickly opening and closing a blank tab with Ctrl+T,Ctrl+Q combination. Any of these methods significantly slows browsing with many tabs open. Was this intended? Is there a new dillorc option to control this behavior, or some new key/mouse controls that I missed? Regards, b.

Dec. 9, 2008

how about a form menu?

by corvid＠lavabit.com

I was playing around with making a form menu. So far: 1) Submit. Nicer from the user's perspective than prefs.generate_submit. 2) Reset. Not really needed when you can just press back and forward. 3) Show/Hide Hiddens. Lets you edit them, which I believe the user should have the power to do. ..and thinking of making an Info option to show submission charset and, oh, whatever else. What I have now is icky proof-of-concept code (although it's been working fine), so I want to see how well the idea goes over before trying to clean it up.

Dec. 9, 2008

empty html elements

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 06:56:12PM +0100, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > Hi, > > while working on css I came across the following: > > <a class="d" name="INCR32"/> (found at [1]) > > dillo currently doesn't recognize that the element is empty. > The relevant code is at html.cc:3530: > > /* Test for </x>, ReqTagClose, <x /> and <x/> */ > if (*start == '/' || /* </x> */ > html->ReqTagClose || /* request */ > (tag[tagsize - 2] == '/' && /* XML: */ > (isspace(tag[tagsize - 3]) || /* <x /> */ > (size_t)tagsize == strlen(Tags[ni].name) + 3))) { /* <x/> */ > > > We could simply drop the requirement for the blank before '/' which > would lead to > > /* Test for </x>, ReqTagClose, <x /> and <x/> */ > if (*start == '/' || /* </x> */ > html->ReqTagClose || /* request */ > (tag[tagsize - 2] == '/')) { /* XML */ > > > or allow a '"' instead of the blank or keep things as they are, if > XML requires a blank before the '/'. > >>From http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816/#sec-starttags > I'd say the blank is optional. > > What do you think? > > Cheers, > Johannes > > [1] http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/lib/libc/port… Oh, I committed a new version allowing [ "'] before />, and also a self closing element: <x/>. This because the former one failed on things like: <a href=/html/k_links/Kayden_Kross/> Kayden Kross </a> Example taken from: http://www.freeones.com/html/d_links/Denise_Milani/ look at the non-working bottom links, or elsewhere if you like. :-) -- Cheers Jorge.-

Dec. 8, 2008

Thoughts on revision control

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

I've been using git to manage the Dillo source locally. I just installed mercurial to experiment with. Things I like about git are the ability to rebase, ie. reorder patches. This is neat because I can develop a patch on top of my local modifications and then push it down the stack so that I submit a patch against the pristine source rather than my customised version. The ability to stash your current changes in a temporary branch is useful too. You could do all this with explicit branches, but it would be more involved and git gives you nice, quick and easy ways to do the same thing. Mercurial seems to be the same sort of beast, though perhaps it is a bit less of a "Swiss Army Chainsaw" than git. I'd be surprised if there were any real issues using either to manage Dillo since I doubt we'd be using anything more than the basic facilities that both offer. I'd prefer git but only out of laziness as it's the one I already know (which means I should probably investigate mercurial just to broaden my mind if nothing else). Regards, Jeremy Henty

Dec. 8, 2008