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' and xhtml

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 05:50:44PM +0000, corvid wrote: > Jorge wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:53:06PM +0000, corvid wrote: > > > > > > Jeremy wanted to add apos a long time ago, and it didn't happen then, > > > but we did give in and accept application/xhtml+xml--let's see--two > > > years ago now, so I wonder whether conditions have changed. > > > > Yep, things change in time... > > > > Although HTML 4.01 and other SPECS never succeeded to the point > > of making serving valid HTML/XHTML a rule of thumb, or best > > practice, things seem to have improved a bit since our early days > > (just my perception out of finding more and more dillo-readable > > sites these days). > > > > Escaping ' as APOS finds a solid reason in server contexts > > where there's a need to accept untrusted input for scripts or > > databases. > > > > I'd say, +1, feel free to commit. > > > > > > PS: Please post a sample URL. Just to get the feel of it. ;) > > It was brought to mind when I couldn't retrieve mail the other day > and checked http://lavabit.com . One of the news bits says > "We've updated our SSL certificate." > > > > Hmmm.... looking at the source now, I see that, on one hand, it has > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> > > ..but, on the other hand, it says > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> > > ..instead of application/xhtml+xml. Yes, that's the state of things these days... There's almost no other way than heuristics -- Cheers Jorge.-

Nov. 7, 2012

' and xhtml

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Jorge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:53:06PM +0000, corvid wrote: > > > > Jeremy wanted to add apos a long time ago, and it didn't happen then, > > but we did give in and accept application/xhtml+xml--let's see--two > > years ago now, so I wonder whether conditions have changed. > > Yep, things change in time... > > Although HTML 4.01 and other SPECS never succeeded to the point > of making serving valid HTML/XHTML a rule of thumb, or best > practice, things seem to have improved a bit since our early days > (just my perception out of finding more and more dillo-readable > sites these days). > > Escaping ' as APOS finds a solid reason in server contexts > where there's a need to accept untrusted input for scripts or > databases. > > I'd say, +1, feel free to commit. > > > PS: Please post a sample URL. Just to get the feel of it. ;) It was brought to mind when I couldn't retrieve mail the other day and checked http://lavabit.com . One of the news bits says "We've updated our SSL certificate." Hmmm.... looking at the source now, I see that, on one hand, it has <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> ..but, on the other hand, it says <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> ..instead of application/xhtml+xml.

Nov. 7, 2012

'#' in file url

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Jorge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 03:20:20AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > > > I had two files with '#' in their names that I wanted to view -- > > file#1.png and file#2.png -- and dillo showed me the same file in > > each tab. > > That's because '#' is not a valid character inside a URL. [snip] > i.e. anything after '#' is a 'fragment'. > > and BTW, that's why the file dpi escapes '#' as '%23' to be able > to show the file. Right, it may be %23 at some point in its journey, but it's back to '#' eventually -- and breaks.

Nov. 7, 2012

' and xhtml

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:53:06PM +0000, corvid wrote: > > Jeremy wanted to add apos a long time ago, and it didn't happen then, > but we did give in and accept application/xhtml+xml--let's see--two > years ago now, so I wonder whether conditions have changed. Yep, things change in time... Although HTML 4.01 and other SPECS never succeeded to the point of making serving valid HTML/XHTML a rule of thumb, or best practice, things seem to have improved a bit since our early days (just my perception out of finding more and more dillo-readable sites these days). Escaping ' as APOS finds a solid reason in server contexts where there's a need to accept untrusted input for scripts or databases. I'd say, +1, feel free to commit. PS: Please post a sample URL. Just to get the feel of it. ;) -- Cheers Jorge.-

Nov. 7, 2012

'#' in file url

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 03:20:20AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > I had two files with '#' in their names that I wanted to view -- > file#1.png and file#2.png -- and dillo showed me the same file in > each tab. That's because '#' is not a valid character inside a URL. Technically: /* * Regular Expression as given in RFC3986 for URL parsing. * * ^(([^:/?#]+):)?(//([^/?#]*))?([^?#]*)(\?([^#]*))?(#(.*))? * 12 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 * * scheme = $2 * authority = $4 * path = $5 * query = $7 * fragment = $9 * [...] i.e. anything after '#' is a 'fragment'. and BTW, that's why the file dpi escapes '#' as '%23' to be able to show the file. HTH. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Nov. 7, 2012

'#' in file url

by corvid＠lavabit.com

I had two files with '#' in their names that I wanted to view -- file#1.png and file#2.png -- and dillo showed me the same file in each tab.

Nov. 7, 2012

hyphenation pattern files

by sgeerken＠dillo.org

On Tue, Nov 06, corvid wrote: > Speaking of keeping things small, doc/not-so-simple-container.png is > currently 150K. I've reduced the colors: now it is only 16K. (Whoever is good at using drawing software is welcome to replace this.) Sebastian

Nov. 6, 2012

hyphenation pattern files

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Johannes wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 01:39:21AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > > > What do we plan to distribute? > > Not sure. Any opinions? I wonder whether it would make sense to gather lots of hyphenation files into a separate .tar.gz or something. Speaking of keeping things small, doc/not-so-simple-container.png is currently 150K.

Nov. 6, 2012

Tab closing order

by jcid＠dillo.org

Hi there, Just committed a patch that improves the workflow for those of use that make regular use of tabbed browsing. Now, upon closing the active tab, the browser focuses the previously visited one (before it was just an adjacent one). Dillo now remembers the full focus history of them. I hope you like it as much as I do. ;) -- Cheers Jorge.-

Nov. 6, 2012

hyphenation pattern files

by johannes.hofmann＠gmx.de

On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 01:39:21AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > What do we plan to distribute? Not sure. Any opinions? > > I was looking up where the ones in test/ come from, and for instance > http://mirrors.ctan.org/language/hyphenation/ushyph/ushyph.tex says: > > % Copyright (C) 1990, 2004, 2005 Gerard D.C. Kuiken. > % Copying and distribution of this file, with or without modification, > % are permitted in any medium without royalty provided the copyright > % notice and this notice are preserved. > > ..but we just have this bare pattern list available in the repository. Good point. I will fix that. Cheers, Johannes

Nov. 6, 2012