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Dillo review article

by rogerx.oss＠gmail.com

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:18PM +0000, corvid wrote: >Roger wrote: >> 2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc >> folder for users to play with? > >What would be interesting to have in a sample style.css? >All I have in mine is...let's see... >":link, :visited {text-decoration: underline !important}" > >Colors, maybe... Just my thoughts on this, I don't customize the layouts much from the default as page formating gets screwed-up when viewing heavily formated websites. ie. CNN, FoxNews, ... In the past, I tried formating pages to use light fonts on a dark background, but as stated above, I would always encounter problems with other websites page colors. Since trying this 5+ years ago, just gave up and decided viewing the page as it was intended. Also conflicts if the user tries to print the page too. As such, we can see why styles.css obviously doesn't get much attention due to the above issues. And for resolving screen brightness when I have a headache, I just use a CLI browser called ELinks. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Oct. 7, 2011

Dillo review article

by rogerx.oss＠gmail.com

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:20:35PM +0000, corvid wrote: >Roger wrote: >> > On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: >> >Hi there, >> > >> > This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section: >> > >> > http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dal… >> >> Just read the first sentence and boy is he wrong! > >I've never seen one of these articles without a number of...issues, >which I suppose is unavoidable when you've just started playing with >it a little bit. > >- He talks about --enable-cookies instead of cookiesrc. >- It sounds like his distribution has fullwindow_start set, which strikes > me as the wrong thing by default. >- He's using an old version if it uses Ctrl-Q and Alt-Q and doesn't have > panel size in the menu. >- It's surprising to mention style.css instead of dillorc. I was just joking, but stating how I love that I can actually use a minimal browser with such a useful site such as Amazon.com's search feature. However, on my second post to this thread, I did notice too the style.css mention was likely mistaken for the dillorc file. (I do this all the time myself when learning new features/functions. :-/ ) As to what to put in a default style.css file? I'm having problems with just "converting XML to HTML" and "other formats to MOBI (E-Book XML markup)" As such, I admit I know just enough to interpret and use css style sheets. If the style.css file is for styling fonts (aka theme), I'm terrible at styling and feel that one terminal font is just fine and dandy as long as I can read it. The site requires a user:pass account, so can't immediately post a comment suggesting the author really meant dillorc. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Oct. 6, 2011

[patch]: download window resizes its contents to its width

by onepoint＠starurchin.org

Purely cosmetic, but I dislike it when the contents ignore their container, even in only one out of two dimensions. Comments? Regards, Jeremy Henty

Oct. 6, 2011

Dillo review article

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Roger wrote: > 2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc > folder for users to play with? What would be interesting to have in a sample style.css? All I have in mine is...let's see... ":link, :visited {text-decoration: underline !important}" Colors, maybe...

Oct. 6, 2011

Dillo review article

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Roger wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > >Hi there, > > > > This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section: > > > > http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dal… > > Just read the first sentence and boy is he wrong! I've never seen one of these articles without a number of...issues, which I suppose is unavoidable when you've just started playing with it a little bit. - He talks about --enable-cookies instead of cookiesrc. - It sounds like his distribution has fullwindow_start set, which strikes me as the wrong thing by default. - He's using an old version if it uses Ctrl-Q and Alt-Q and doesn't have panel size in the menu. - It's surprising to mention style.css instead of dillorc.

Oct. 6, 2011

Dillo review article

by rogerx.oss＠gmail.com

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: >Hi there, > > This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section: > > http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dal… > > :-) Just read the full article and noticed this on about the second to last paragraph: "But if you insist, open the plain text file called "style.css" in the .dillo folder. This file uses standard cascading style sheet definitions." I'm not seeing this file within my install or within my $HOME/.dillo folder. Further searching the dillo-3.0.1 tarball shows no template style.css files. Grepping the tarball shows me there's mention within the dillo manual page only along with a few relevant code statements within the tarball, but I can't see enough to verify this file is created on $HOME/.dillo folder creation. 1) How did he get a style.css file created automagically when I don't get one automagically created? (Is he more special then me?) Grepping the code only shows a few statements for this file, which leads me to believe his distribution rolled-up a style.css file? 2) Should there be at least a style.css template file within the tarball doc folder for users to play with? -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Oct. 6, 2011

Dillo review article

by rogerx.oss＠gmail.com

> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:11:52AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: >Hi there, > > This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section: > > http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dal… Just read the first sentence and boy is he wrong! "First things first: Unless you visit only very simple websites, Dillo will probably not be your one and only Web browser" Dillo seems to work just fine and dandy with the Amazon.com website and it's search function. And it is my best buddy when searching for products on Amazon.com as it's super fast... for some odd reason. ;-) Just wish Google News wouldn't list all those (not-needed) languages at the top of it's page. -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Oct. 6, 2011

Dillo review article

by jcid＠dillo.org

Hi there, This may be worth adding to our "Dillo in the Press" section: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/For-Fast-Light-Web-Browsing-Dillos-No-Dal… :-) -- Cheers Jorge.-

Oct. 6, 2011

white-space patch

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 05:54:22PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 12:48:56PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 01:32:29PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 04:13:57PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 01:57:05PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > Attached goes a small and very interesting testcase. > > > > > (I had a hard time reducing google's page :-P). > > > > > > > > > > Compare with Firefox/Iceweasel rendering. > > > > > > > > There's a "min-width" CSS element that dillo doesn't support: > > > > > > > > #center_col{min-width:562px} > > > > > > > > Taking it out of the equation makes Firefox render the page > > > > quite similar to dillo; so maybe it is not a rewrap bug, but a > > > > lack of implementation of CSS' min-width. > > > > > > A colleague just found a simple test case, and the fix for it also > > > seems to fix the google case - but it needs some more testing. > > > > > > Testcase: > > > > > > <b>Hello World</b><div>Hello world</div> > > > > > > Notice how the first line breaks without need when narrowing the > > > window. > > > > Good testcase! > > > > Here, the first sentence is broken regardless the window size, > > and FWIW, this patch solves it: > > > > @@ -1825,6 +1825,7 @@ void Textblock::addParbreak (int space, > > > > word = addWord (0, 0, 0, style); > > word->content.type = core::Content::BREAK; > > + word->content.breakType = core::Content::BREAK_OK; > > word->content.breakSpace = space; > > wordWrap (words->size () - 1); > > } > > @@ -1846,6 +1847,7 @@ void Textblock::addLinebreak (core::styl > > word = addWord (0, 0, 0, style); > > > > word->content.type = core::Content::BREAK; > > + word->content.breakType = core::Content::BREAK_OK; > > word->content.breakSpace = 0; > > wordWrap (words->size () - 1); > > } > > > > > > (this patch doesn't solve the google testcase, so I thought > > it was better to let you know of it). > > Thanks! I already have a fix and I think the whole thing can > be committed tonight or tomorrow. Ok, another round of testing. Please check how attached patch works for you. Cheers, Johannes PS: Kudos to Florian who by accident found the nice test case!

Oct. 5, 2011

white-space patch

by johannes.hofmann＠gmx.de

On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 12:48:56PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 01:32:29PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 04:13:57PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 01:57:05PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > > > > > [...] > > > > Attached goes a small and very interesting testcase. > > > > (I had a hard time reducing google's page :-P). > > > > > > > > Compare with Firefox/Iceweasel rendering. > > > > > > There's a "min-width" CSS element that dillo doesn't support: > > > > > > #center_col{min-width:562px} > > > > > > Taking it out of the equation makes Firefox render the page > > > quite similar to dillo; so maybe it is not a rewrap bug, but a > > > lack of implementation of CSS' min-width. > > > > A colleague just found a simple test case, and the fix for it also > > seems to fix the google case - but it needs some more testing. > > > > Testcase: > > > > <b>Hello World</b><div>Hello world</div> > > > > Notice how the first line breaks without need when narrowing the > > window. > > Good testcase! > > Here, the first sentence is broken regardless the window size, > and FWIW, this patch solves it: > > @@ -1825,6 +1825,7 @@ void Textblock::addParbreak (int space, > > word = addWord (0, 0, 0, style); > word->content.type = core::Content::BREAK; > + word->content.breakType = core::Content::BREAK_OK; > word->content.breakSpace = space; > wordWrap (words->size () - 1); > } > @@ -1846,6 +1847,7 @@ void Textblock::addLinebreak (core::styl > word = addWord (0, 0, 0, style); > > word->content.type = core::Content::BREAK; > + word->content.breakType = core::Content::BREAK_OK; > word->content.breakSpace = 0; > wordWrap (words->size () - 1); > } > > > (this patch doesn't solve the google testcase, so I thought > it was better to let you know of it). Thanks! I already have a fix and I think the whole thing can be committed tonight or tomorrow. Cheers, Johannes

Oct. 5, 2011