February 2010 - Dillo-dev - lists.mailman3.com

middle_click_drags_page=NO [Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo-2.2-rc2]

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Thomas wrote: > one feature I motivated is not interacting as it should. > It is the middle-click pasting into the browser window to trigger loading of the pasted URL, activated via > > middle_click_drags_page=NO > > in dillorc. A Major flaw of this setting is that pasting into form fields does not work. Any middle-click triggers URL loading... when this setting is YES, the pasting into form fields works, is not harmed by the page dragging functions. I'll take a look at this. Can you add it to the bug tracker?

Feb. 8, 2010

dillo-2.2-rc2

by thomas-forum＠orgis.org

Am Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:52:50 +0100 schrieb Johannes Hofmann <Johannes.Hofmann(a)gmx.de>: > Please give it a try and report back soon. > The intention is to release dillo-2.2 this week. This is not specific to dillo-2.2, and should not hinder the release, I guess, but I have to admit that one feature I motivated is not interacting as it should. It is the middle-click pasting into the browser window to trigger loading of the pasted URL, activated via middle_click_drags_page=NO in dillorc. A Major flaw of this setting is that pasting into form fields does not work. Any middle-click triggers URL loading... when this setting is YES, the pasting into form fields works, is not harmed by the page dragging functions. I say that here just to have it mentioned... not blaming anyone but myself. But perhaps someone of you guys has an easy fix available for that? Of course one fix could be to drop the whole paste-in-window-for-URL thing but I rather like the feature... just not when I intended to paste into a form field. Also, note that the middle-click-drags-page mode is always a no-op for me as holding down the middle mouse button triggers scrolling mode via X11 anyway (a sensible setup for a Thinkpad with Trackpoint, or trackballs on desktop systems). Hm... regarding that... horizontal scroll events are not handled by dillo. One might need to investigate that in FLTK... Well, at least I have, after long time, given this little piece of feedback about the URL pasting... sorry that I didn't tell earlier, and sorry that I don't have a patch at hand. Alrighty then, Thomas.

Feb. 8, 2010

dillo-2.2-rc2

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

Hello, I just made a new release candidate for our upcoming dillo-2.2 release. It mainly addresses the blackhole(4) timeouts reported in http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/pipermail/dillo-dev/2010-January/007247.html The rc2 tarball can be found as usual at: http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-2.2-rc2.tar.bz2 SHA1: 38221d3499ce5f91a0c6a945a23b066e9e46ef84 Please give it a try and report back soon. The intention is to release dillo-2.2 this week. Cheers, Johannes

Feb. 8, 2010

Starting dpis on FreeBSD: blackhole(4) timeouts

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 08:59:44AM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:13:14PM +0100, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 04:44:57PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 07:02:54PM +0000, corvid wrote: > > > > bf wrote: > > > > > Because blackhole(4) is a common security measure, and because this > > > > > problem did not exist under the previous dpi framework, it must be > > > > > considered a regression, even if, in hindsight, it is to be "expected". > > > > > > > > I finally looked back to refresh my memory on why we switched to inet > > > > sockets: Minix. If we do return to Unix sockets eventually, what is the > > > > thinking on what we would do for Minix? > > > > > > At some point in time Minix 3 will have to implement UDS. > > > In the meanwhile they can use the version with inet sockets. > > > > What shall we do about this TCP blackhole issue? > > Should we try to switch back to UDS before release? > > Sorry for the delayed answer Johannes (I was out of the city). > > IMO, UDS before the release is too risky. It will need lots of > testing time. Just came to the same conclusion ... > I believe we may choose the solution bf has found > to work better as workaround, make a patch with it and release. A > few times in the past I rushed a "better" solution into an rc, > only to learn not to do it! :) What patch exactly would you propose? I see * increasing dpid_idle_timeout * adding a linger variable * and a shell wrapper to start dillo > > With regard to UDS, it can be scheduled into the repo shortly > after the release; Thereafter users can help us polish it from > there. ok. Cheers, Johannes

Feb. 7, 2010

Starting dpis on FreeBSD: blackhole(4) timeouts

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Jorge wrote: > With regard to UDS, it can be scheduled into the repo shortly > after the release; Thereafter users can help us polish it from > there. Do you expect that you will have time to do it yourself? Would it make sense to make a 2.2.1 with just the uds dpi changes and nothing else that isn't rather trivial?

Feb. 7, 2010

valgrind [Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo-2.2-rc1]

by jcid＠dillo.org

Hi Jeremy, On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 06:32:29PM +0000, Jeremy Henty wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 08:07:13AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > Jeremy wrote: > > > > > > Thanks. Everyone is welcome to suggest improvements. > > > > I've been wondering whether it is possible to check dpid and the > > dpis as well. Apparently there's a --trace-children=yes option, but > > it's probably not that simple :) > > I'll look into it. It may not be so complicated - valgrind logs the > PID so it should be easy to group the log entries by process. The > tricky thing is identifying the process - currently I just slurp the > whole output before doing anything, by which time the dpi might have > died. It might be better to process it line-by-line so I can check > the process table right away. That would need a little > re-engineering. Or maybe it would be better to replace the dpis with > wrappers that run valgrind? I'd definitely try with wrappers! -- Cheers Jorge.-

Feb. 7, 2010

Starting dpis on FreeBSD: blackhole(4) timeouts

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:13:14PM +0100, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 04:44:57PM -0300, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 07:02:54PM +0000, corvid wrote: > > > bf wrote: > > > > Because blackhole(4) is a common security measure, and because this > > > > problem did not exist under the previous dpi framework, it must be > > > > considered a regression, even if, in hindsight, it is to be "expected". > > > > > > I finally looked back to refresh my memory on why we switched to inet > > > sockets: Minix. If we do return to Unix sockets eventually, what is the > > > thinking on what we would do for Minix? > > > > At some point in time Minix 3 will have to implement UDS. > > In the meanwhile they can use the version with inet sockets. > > What shall we do about this TCP blackhole issue? > Should we try to switch back to UDS before release? Sorry for the delayed answer Johannes (I was out of the city). IMO, UDS before the release is too risky. It will need lots of testing time. I believe we may choose the solution bf has found to work better as workaround, make a patch with it and release. A few times in the past I rushed a "better" solution into an rc, only to learn not to do it! :) With regard to UDS, it can be scheduled into the repo shortly after the release; Thereafter users can help us polish it from there. -- Cheers Jorge.-

Feb. 7, 2010

How to use the tab or other keyboard keys to set foucs on web page links?

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Yong wrote: > I am using the Dillo on an embedded device for web browsing. Since > this device does not support mouse or touchscreen, > I have to use the keyboard(or some buttons). I found I cannot set the > focus on these links using tab keys( Dillo 2.2-rc1). > > If there any key configuration settings to set the tab key? Not currently. > If not, I want to modify the source code to add this function, Great! > is there any example or related patches for reference? I think the way to make this work would be something like: - borrowing from the dw/findtext.cc iteration code. - checking when style->x_link != -1 or you're currently on an embedded form widget.

Feb. 7, 2010

How to use the tab or other keyboard keys to set foucs on web page links?

by sdliyong＠gmail.com

Hello All, I am using the Dillo on an embedded device for web browsing. Since this device does not support mouse or touchscreen, I have to use the keyboard(or some buttons). I found I cannot set the focus on these links using tab keys( Dillo 2.2-rc1). If there any key configuration settings to set the tab key? If not, I want to modify the source code to add this function, is there any example or related patches for reference? Thanks a lot! Yong

Feb. 7, 2010

dillo-2.2-rc1

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

Hello, On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:11:38PM +0100, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 02:34:37AM +0000, corvid wrote: > > As you may have already noticed, we're at RC1 for the next release. > > Johannes has built a tarball: > > > > http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-2.2-rc1.tar.bz2 > > SHA1: 146216a1541b20a3e042c62c0db8ee42f173ed01 > > > > Please test! > > Ok, for now we know about the TCP blackhole issue reported by bf. I think we need a decision about this soon. I made a short attempt to switch DPIs back to UDS, but couldn't get it working yet. If I find some more time this weekend I will try again. I would propose that we decide on Monday, whether we release our current rc1 as it is and document the issue or go with a possible UDS solution. In both cases I want the release to happen next week. Cheers, Johannes

Feb. 6, 2010