May 2008 - Dillo-dev - lists.mailman3.com

website FAQ update

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Jorge wrote: > Please try to contact J?rgen. If he doesn't answer, leave dillo-dev > as the only contact until we find somebody else. His dillo address redirects to an address where I get User Unknown. I found a telia.com address, but that also gave me User Unknown.

May 16, 2008

website FAQ update

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:21:25PM +0000, corvid wrote: > Are "dillo1" and "dillo2" official names? If so, I'll add in some text to > make it clear what's what. They're not official, but good mnemonics! When there was GTK1 dillo only, there was no confusion. Currently the CVS is using dillo-fltk, but I'd much prefer to have a binary named "dillo2". Probably this is a good choice. Let's hear what dillo-dev people say. Here's the proposal: * call the new binary "dillo2", and refer to the old 0.8.x series as dillo1. -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 16, 2008

Dillo freeze

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:29:11PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 05:41:32PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Dillo freezes on this page: > > > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.24.6.tar.bz2.sign > > > > Dillo bug or FLTK2? > > Other than I initially thought it is a Dillo bug. The IOwatch for > reading is not removed properly. As a result the select call in the > fltk event loop keeps failing with EBADF. > Attached is a fix for the problem, but I'm not sure whether it is > correct. Jorge, can you please have a look at it? Committed. After a really long review. :-P Related CCC patches pending here... -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 16, 2008

website FAQ update

by corvid＠lavabit.com

Are "dillo1" and "dillo2" official names? If so, I'll add in some text to make it clear what's what. BTW, I misspelled 'publicly' :(

May 16, 2008

Uncluttering dillos UI - getting rid of the dialog boxes

by 4winter＠informatik.uni-hamburg.de

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Hofmann wrote: > Cool! I like it already better than the dialog box. > What do you mean by "on-blur" events? I like to be notified the moment the input box loses focus. For some reason the code works quite well as it is (a comment in the source code mentions this might be a fltk bug :-/), but it is possible to leave the location box without triggering the event handler. But relying on some undocumented and or buggy behavior is obviously not an option ;). I'd expect something like inputbox->when(WHEN_ENTER_KEY | UNFOCUS) but I have no experience with fltk at all and a quick look into the callback section of their documentation didn't help either. Justus - -- gpg key fingerprint: C82D 382A AB38 1A54 5290 19D6 A0F9 B035 686C 6996 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFILei8oPmwNWhsaZYRAqidAJwMMweoNyvL+yMLbPXv6udUU7BiNQCgiSU3 VxfMpr6FsBJifzC/ecmqJ0o= =P3yn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

May 16, 2008

Uncluttering dillos UI - getting rid of the dialog boxes

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

Hi, On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:20:17PM +0200, Justus Winter wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey everyone :) > > somewhere deep inside the "Future of Dillo" monster thread I suggested > to get rid of the location dialog box but Johannes pointed out that this > breaks the fullscreen mode. > > So, here is my proposed solution: > > * on ctrl-l: focus location bar > * if in fullscreen mode: temporarily show toolbars until the user > pressed enter > > I am not familiar with the fltk event model, so I just hijacked the > existing event handler which works reasonably well. It would be nice to > also capture any "on-blur" events, but I could use some hints (the fltk2 > documentation only mentions 6 WHEN_* events, though some googling > suggests that there might be UNFOCUS events... uh?). > > Anyway, the patch is attached. let me know what you think. Cool! I like it already better than the dialog box. What do you mean by "on-blur" events? Johannes

May 16, 2008

Uncluttering dillos UI - getting rid of the dialog boxes

by 4winter＠informatik.uni-hamburg.de

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey everyone :) somewhere deep inside the "Future of Dillo" monster thread I suggested to get rid of the location dialog box but Johannes pointed out that this breaks the fullscreen mode. So, here is my proposed solution: * on ctrl-l: focus location bar * if in fullscreen mode: temporarily show toolbars until the user pressed enter I am not familiar with the fltk event model, so I just hijacked the existing event handler which works reasonably well. It would be nice to also capture any "on-blur" events, but I could use some hints (the fltk2 documentation only mentions 6 WHEN_* events, though some googling suggests that there might be UNFOCUS events... uh?). Anyway, the patch is attached. let me know what you think. Justus - -- gpg key fingerprint: C82D 382A AB38 1A54 5290 19D6 A0F9 B035 686C 6996 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFILd5xoPmwNWhsaZYRApqEAJ9glSSkR3Q9oU0BmmUf9/ErG/ItfwCfVs5M asgEwaQAMk4ggsfzO2toTc0= =MHCi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

May 16, 2008

patch: some more window deletion

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:42:57PM +0000, corvid wrote: > I thought I was going to have to remove the viewport from the UI > because both UI and layout would want to delete it, but it appears that > TopGroup gets informed of the deletion and everything turns out fine. Committed. It'd be good to add a comment if necessary. -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 16, 2008

website FAQ update

by jcid＠dillo.org

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 06:49:11PM +0000, corvid wrote: > I made http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.corvid.html > The old FAQ is still at http://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html for now. > > So if you have comments/find mistakes/whatever.... Yes. > Q: I have an addition to the FAQ/website. Whom do I contact? > > Send all such additions, as well as general questions about the website, to > the webmaster J?rgen Viksell. better to use dillo-dev instead nowadays? Please try to contact J?rgen. If he doesn't answer, leave dillo-dev as the only contact until we find somebody else. > Q: Why isn't Dillo-0.8.x rendering some HTML entities (such as &euro)? Please remove this question as it is specific to dillo1. The web site, and all its information should focuse in dillo2. BTW, it'd be good to state in the FAQ that dillo1 is unmaintained. Something like: Q: What's the state of dillo1 (dillo-0.8.x series)? dillo-0.8.x is unmaintained. It depends on an obsolete library and dillo2 has achieved and surpassed all it had to offer. [In the future we may add a link to the Changelog and to the Plans page] > Q: How do I use a different charset with Dillo? > Internationalization and Localization (i18n & l10n) > > FLTK port > [...] With regard to FLTK: s/FLTK/FLTK2/g in the whole FAQ. Several people write me saying they can't compile dillo2 with FLTK1! Let's try to avoid that misunderstanding. And in this particular case, we can re-word it like this: "Since dillo was ported to FLTK2, the UTF-8 character encoding is used internally. Dillo uses the iconv ..." > Q: How do I enable the https (SSL) support plugin for dillo? Well, currently the CVS has it enabled, but it is definitely worth stating that it's a bare-bones plugin. Also, we can't make a release with HTTPS enabled until we solve the dialog spamming that happens on sites with multiple resources. This is, porting the https filter dpi plugin to a dpi server plugin. Before the release, something like: Q: What's the state of HTTPS support? First of all, beware that this is a prototype in alpha state. It will only provide for very basic web page retrievals, POST and GET. We need to port it internally fomr dpi filter to dpi server. If you want to help us to improve the plugin, please let us know! could do it. > Q: What's the status of the FLTK port? I'd say something like: Code using the FLTK2 GUI toolkit was made publically available in September 2007, and progress has since accelerated. It has become the main development branch, and the GTK1 based dillo1 (0.8.x series) went unmantained. Dillo2 provides much more than the old one. Developers are encouraged to try it out. Users are advised to wait until a release is made. _Experienced_ users may try it out. [a link to the CVS page with build directions is needed here] > Q: Why does the page X.Y look strange? It'd be good here to add something about the HTML bug meter: In the lower-right corner of Dillo you'll see a bug-shaped icon. Click on it to see the detected HTML errors. More info [add link to: http://www.dillo.org/help/bug_meter.html] That's it for me. Once done, let it be the new FAQ, and feel free to improve upon! -- Cheers Jorge.-

May 16, 2008

tabs - what are they?

by Johannes.Hofmann＠gmx.de

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:10:28PM +0000, corvid wrote: > Johannes wrote: > > while thinking about tabs I realized that I'm not really sure > > what they are. > > > > * On the one hand they could be implemented just as a GUI alternative > > to multiple bowser windows. > > > > * On the other hand they could be something like temporary bookmarks > > that are easily accessible e.g. via buttons below the panel. That > > way one would only need one layout and view. > > The only issue here would be that one would expect a separate > > navigation stack for each "tab". > > This mail > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/pipermail/dillo-dev/2008-January/003685.html > says the latter. Right, Jorge already proposed that and it's really interesting to think about tabs as a navigation thing rather than a gui thing. Currently we have a linear navigation history. One can go back and forward. Perhaps tabs are nothing else than the possibility to fork navigation history at certain points. So it becomes a tree rather than a linear list. > > PS I read your subject line and thought, "They're eight spaces, of course." :) Yeah definately, what else :-)

May 15, 2008