July 2007 - Dillo-dev - lists.mailman3.com

Re: [Dillo-dev] so is dillo history?

by Riccardo Mottola

Hey, > > any suggestions for an alternative light-weight browser for > > linux users? > > Unless someone else is prepared to write one from scratch, the > main alternatives are hv3 and some of the cut-down gecko-based > browsers (kazehakase and flock spring to mind). > geck is still big and needs glib2/gtk2... > The flock code is all under the MPL or GPL, so that may be a good > starting point, since the flock additions are fairly neatly > layered. > > I'd be delighted to learn of any other approaches as well.... We at GNUstep are writing our own engine from scratch, compatible with WebKit. It shall targed handheld devices too. A first browser implementaiton is Vespucci, of the GAP project (gap.nongnu.org) ALthough it is far from usable, a screenshot can be seen on my blog (multixden.blogspot.com) SimpleWebKit runs also on myStep/QuantumStep which is a special version of GNUstep for handheld devices (zaurus, etc). We originally even thought about using Dillo as a starting point, but the code itself was glib.gtk dependent and the rendering limitations were high. Then the whole project essentially died. Sadly, I've been a Dillo user on many platforms and strange computers... Riccardo

July 10, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] Some News

by Globe Trotter

I agree entirely, but dillo is fast because it is small. I think javascript will have to be tackled if dillo is meant to have a future. unless more and more people use it, no contributions will come. they will definitely not come if fewer and fewer people use it....disappearing for a year and a half was not a great idea....not to mention that it was at the interface between gtk1 and fltk so no one who wanted to could even contribute....hopefully, the new update will be available soon! trotter --- SZERVÁC Attila <sas(a)321.hu> wrote: > > I can use both Dillo & FF on my 9 years old machine, but Dillo is more > faster than any other graphical browser. So, this is the key feature, > not the small size. Size doesn't matter today :-) > > On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 08:58:24AM -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: > > > > I do that. But the subset of sites that can handle dillo keeps becoming > smaller > > and smaller. Pretty soon, at this rate, we will be down to just my > website..... > > -- > sas ( satie ) - SZERVÁC Attila - zenész - szoftvergazda \ > elnökhelyettes - Linux-felhasználók Magyarországi Egyesülete - http://lme.hu/ > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/

July 6, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] Some News

by Globe Trotter

--- Beartooth <karhunhammas(a)Lserv.com> wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Globe Trotter wrote: > > > Btw, I think we know how you feel about javascript but this has > > to be brought in at some point, since there are increasingly > > more and more sites which can not be viewed without any other > > option. > > Don't be too sure. I keep Dillo named my default browser, > and when I hit a site it can't handle, I either shrug and skip > it, or copy the URL and paste it into some more ponderous > browser. I figure that's the price I pay for Dillo's speed and > security, and well worth it. > > I have no idea how many other users may be doing the > same, but I'll give odds I'm not the only one. In fact, you might > soon find you prefer doing it that way yourself. > I do that. But the subset of sites that can handle dillo keeps becoming smaller and smaller. Pretty soon, at this rate, we will be down to just my website..... I think hv3 (which I did not know about till yesterday) has finally accepted this fact (so they say) and is moving towards incorporating javascript as a priority. Trotter. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL

July 6, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] Some News

by Globe Trotter

Thanks, Jorge! I hope this is really soon. While I love dillo, it appears that people have begun to defect, and I frankly can't blame them! I don't know anything beyond plain C programming, so I am not really able to help with widgets and toolkits, etc. I am however willing to test the thing out to death. Btw, I think we know how you feel about javascript but this has to be brought in at some point, since there are increasingly more and more sites which can not be viewed without any other option. Many thanks and best wishes, Trotter --- Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)dillo.org> wrote: > Hi there, > > We've advanced a lot towards a release of Dillo. So expect good > news soon! > > What currently worries us most is the lack of developers. > Manpower to help the project. With Sebastian we have little spare > time and would appreciate some help. From patches, patch review, > bug fixing, web site maintaining, documentation, packaging, etc. > > > -- > Cheers > Jorge.- > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)dillo.org > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091

July 6, 2007

Some News

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi there, We've advanced a lot towards a release of Dillo. So expect good news soon! What currently worries us most is the lack of developers. Manpower to help the project. With Sebastian we have little spare time and would appreciate some help. From patches, patch review, bug fixing, web site maintaining, documentation, packaging, etc. -- Cheers Jorge.-

July 6, 2007

Re: [Dillo-dev] so is dillo history?

by Mark South

--- Globe Trotter <itsme_410(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > just wondering....doesn't look promising at all! Yes, this is a case where no news is very bad news. :-( > any suggestions for an alternative light-weight browser for > linux users? Unless someone else is prepared to write one from scratch, the main alternatives are hv3 and some of the cut-down gecko-based browsers (kazehakase and flock spring to mind). The flock code is all under the MPL or GPL, so that may be a good starting point, since the flock additions are fairly neatly layered. I'd be delighted to learn of any other approaches as well.... ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html

July 5, 2007

so is dillo history?

by Globe Trotter

just wondering....doesn't look promising at all! any suggestions for an alternative light-weight browser for linux users? best, trotter ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/

July 5, 2007