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Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo on Win2k

by Robin Rowe

Robert, > any chance of a version that works on NT3.51 (on a 64Mb dx4-75 :-) ) Yes, a good chance. Likely to work on all Win9x flavors, too. As with *nix, will require testing on each platform. Cheers, Robin --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin.Rowe(a)MovieEditor.com Hollywood, California www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software

Sept. 2, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo on Windows fork

by Robin Rowe

Colin, > Any chance of a downloadable exe? Yes I'd be glad to, but the Windows port is not ready yet for release. I got as far as the splash screen. Still more bugs to fix. Encouraging though. In response to my request for technical information about Dillo to make it easier for me to debug the Windows port, Jorge sent me an email off-list last week in which he told me, "you're on your own" and directed me to his interview at http://www.dillo.org/interview.html for the reason why. What Jorge says there is he is opposed to supporting Windows users as a matter of personal politics. On Friday the 29th I sent an email to Jorge asking he reconsider, but he hasn't responded. The text of my message is below. I am not enclosing Jorge's message because I don't know if he intended that to be for the record. It seems that contributing to Dillo on Windows is unwelcome and requires forking it. I didn't come to the project with the idea that I would take it over and am a bit perplexed. I'm wondering how others who have been with the project longer may feel. Should Dillo for Windows go elsewhere? If yes, does anyone want to help with it? Thanks, Robin --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin.Rowe(a)MovieEditor.com Hollywood, California www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Rowe" <rower(a)MovieEditor.com> To: "Jorge Arellano Cid" <jcid(a)softhome.net> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo Windows port > Jorge, > > Before discussing Windows issues I thought you may like to know that Tom > Huffman announced today on cinepaint-developers he has completed making > Dillo into a Linux help system plug-in for CinePaint. I anticipate we'll > start including Dillo with CinePaint in October. > > We've been using the GIMP tips widget as our help system. Everyone is > excited about Dillo as a big improvement. We plan to add an editing > capability to Dillo so we can edit our help pages from within Dillo. > > As I said, I'm not using Cygwin. Cygwin, clever as it is, has many > drawbacks. I'm running Dillo natively on Windows. > > It took me about 24 hours to accomplish that, to make some adjustments to > compile Dillo in Microsoft Visual C++. Mostly it involved adding > conditionals to change the names of included header files. Because your > design didn't anticipate that a few of the POSIX calls you use are not > available in Windows, it will take a little more work to replace those, to > complete the job. > > Although Windows is not 100% POSIX compatible, it is much more compatible > than you seem to think. POSIX-based programs can be made to work on Windows > without much trouble if you try. I haven't added any Windows API calls to > the existing Dillo code. > > Thanks for the link. Very interesting. You sound quite hostile to Windows > users as a matter of personal politics. > > May I ask, what does a policy of denying Dillo technical support to Windows > users accomplish? Do you intend to prevent people from using software they > have already paid for anyway? Should I throw away my copy of Windows 2000 to > accommodate your political views? To what point? You can't think it could > hurt Microsoft. You must know they aren't going to give me a refund. > > If you change your mind and decide to answer my questions about what a few > troublesome pieces of Dillo code are intended to do that would be nice. But, > if you prefer not to it is no big deal. I've ported much more difficult > programs without help. > > Cheers, > > Robin > > P.S. For anyone doesn't know, I lead the GTK1 for Windows and the Mac > GTK+OSX port projects in addition to CinePaint. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Robin.Rowe(a)MovieEditor.com Hollywood, California > www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software

Sept. 2, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] CPU hog with large selections

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Sebastian, > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 02, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > Yesterday I came accross this bug while reading: > > > > http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/ (272KB) > > > > If you go to a comment in the middle of the page, start > > selecting text with the mouse, and move it to the leftmost border > > (so it selects all the text up to the start), the CPU will hog > > and dillo will become unresponsive as it was in a dead loop. > > > > For instance, from the bottom line it takes 10 minutes to > > recover on a pentium II 233Mhz. I almost sure this can be > > improved. > > > > Please someone give a hand to fixing it. > > Fixed and comitted. Great! One less problem on the list. > BTW, there is (still) a memory leak in the selection (reproduce this > simply by selecting text several times), but this leak exists also in > the old code, so it is not likely to be caused by the recent changes. I understand. It'd be good if we can coordinate to review the tab + frames patch this week (and next). Do you have some time? Regards Jorge.- PS: I added the missing include for <string.h>

Sept. 2, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] CPU hog with large selections

by Sebastian Geerken

Hi, On Tue, Sep 02, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > Yesterday I came accross this bug while reading: > > http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/ (272KB) > > If you go to a comment in the middle of the page, start > selecting text with the mouse, and move it to the leftmost border > (so it selects all the text up to the start), the CPU will hog > and dillo will become unresponsive as it was in a dead loop. > > For instance, from the bottom line it takes 10 minutes to > recover on a pentium II 233Mhz. I almost sure this can be > improved. > > Please someone give a hand to fixing it. Fixed and comitted. BTW, there is (still) a memory leak in the selection (reproduce this simply by selecting text several times), but this leak exists also in the old code, so it is not likely to be caused by the recent changes. Sebastian

Sept. 2, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo on Win2k

by robert w hall

In article <1062518524.636.16.camel(a)xterm.home>, Colin Michael Yates <colin.yates(a)orange.net> writes >Any chance of a downloadable exe? any chance of a version that works on NT3.51 (on a 64Mb dx4-75 :-) ) -- robert w hall

Sept. 2, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Dillo on Win2k

by Colin Michael Yates

Any chance of a downloadable exe? Colin On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 07:10, Robin Rowe wrote: > FYI, making progress with Dillo on Win2k. > > http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net/pix/windows/dillo.win2k.gif > > Cheers, > > Robin > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Robin.Rowe(a)MovieEditor.com Hollywood, California > www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software > > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev

Sept. 2, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Two small things that need implementation...

by Jorge Arellano Cid

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Frank de Lange wrote: > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 10:08:33 -0400 (CLT) > Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)softhome.net> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > These things have waited for a long time unimplemented. Both > > don't require much code, but some knowledge: > > > > 1.- A right-click popup for images > > (we have all the code and functions of it, what we need is > > to hook an empty popup to right-click over images). > > > > 2.- Input images work, but there's a detail lacking. The arrow- > > shaped cursor should change to a hand-shaped one (as with > > links). > > > > > > Anyone? > > I've already added these to the tab + frame patch... Excellent Frank! The next thing to do (for me) will be a list of things to be included in 0.8.0, answer Johan H., and start perusing the tab + frames patch. Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 2, 2003

Sourceforge RSS feed (http://sourceforge.net/export/rss2_projfiles.php?group_id=603)

by Colin Michael Yates

Hi, Just a quick note, the RSS feed from sourceforge is currently listing dillo at 0.6.4. Any chance someone could keep it updated please. The URL is http://sourceforge.net/export/rss2_projfiles.php?group_id=603 Also, just wanted to say *great* tool. Cannot get over how quick it is! If only I knew how to apply the patch to get it to render slashdot ..... Thanks again, Colin

Sept. 2, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Two small things that need implementation...

by Frank de Lange

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 10:08:33 -0400 (CLT) Jorge Arellano Cid <jcid(a)softhome.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > These things have waited for a long time unimplemented. Both > don't require much code, but some knowledge: > > 1.- A right-click popup for images > (we have all the code and functions of it, what we need is > to hook an empty popup to right-click over images). > > 2.- Input images work, but there's a detail lacking. The arrow- > shaped cursor should change to a hand-shaped one (as with > links). > > > Anyone? I've already added these to the tab + frame patch... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

Sept. 2, 2003

Two small things that need implementation...

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi, These things have waited for a long time unimplemented. Both don't require much code, but some knowledge: 1.- A right-click popup for images (we have all the code and functions of it, what we need is to hook an empty popup to right-click over images). 2.- Input images work, but there's a detail lacking. The arrow- shaped cursor should change to a hand-shaped one (as with links). Anyone? Cheers Jorge.-

Sept. 2, 2003