July 2003 - Dillo-dev - lists.mailman3.com

thanks (fwd)

by Jorge Arellano Cid

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:09:00 +0200 From: Nicolas <czc(a)free.fr> To: jcid(a)softhome.net Subject: thanks Hello, First of all, sorry for my english :) , I want to thank you and other developers of the Dillo browser, for all that you're already done. I've got a 486 DX4 75Mhz , 24Mo RAM, 3Go HD, on a 640x480 TFT display with Debian Sid. Under Xfree 3.3.6 with the fluxbox window manager, Dillo is what i use to see the web because it's really fast even on my old laptop. I know links and lynx, but i prefer see the web with colors fonts and pictures. Dillo widgets seem to be based on GTK1.2, it's slower than lesstif but reasonnably responsive, and good looking. [...]

July 24, 2003

Frames

by Peter Milne

Hi All, Is there any speculation on when Dillo will be frame ready? I would love to use Dillo for Squirrelmail. Thanks, -- ~~~Pete~~~ http://milneweb.com http://nomorevirus.com

July 24, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] [PATCH] new version of Dillo tab patch, please test...

by Frank de Lange

On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 10:36:51PM +0200, Johannes Hofmann wrote: > Hi Frank, > > thanks for the great patch. I noticed a small inconvenience: > > The keyboard shortcut for <Back> (<Backspace>) does not work properly. It > goes back two pages back in the history. The <Back> button works fine though. Yeah, just noticed that as well... Will look into it for the next version of the patch, RSN... Thanks... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

July 23, 2003

Directions for building on Cygwin (draft)

by Kelson Vibber

Hello! I have a draft of directions for building Dillo on Cygwin: http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo/cygwin.html Please let me know if anything is missing, wrong, or unclear. Thanks! Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

July 23, 2003

[PATCH] new version of Dillo tab patch, please test...

by Frank de Lange

Hi'all! I have released a new version of my tabs patch for Dillo. Head for the patch website (geocities... start your junkbusters and privoxies...) and grab it while it is fresh (see below for download location). The patch was made against 20030723 CVS. Notable improvements include: - focus is on docwin on tab switch, so keyboard navigation works - focus is on location bar on empty new tab/new window - Control-click on link opens new tab, shift-click opens new window - new pref: tab_on_middle_click (default:NO), open a tab (instead of a new window) on link_middle_click - left-to-right tab deletion order (should this be a pref?) known issues: - in fullscreen mode, the 'show controls' button (in the lower right corner of the screen) disappears when switching tabs. Double-click in the window will restore the controls. The button IS reparented, it is just not shown. The widget does not seem to raise it when needed. - when loading a tab in the background, dillo sometimes (quite often actually) gives a Gdk-CRITICAL warning: Gdk-CRITICAL **: file gdkwindow.c: line 1274 (gdk_window_set_cursor): assertion `window != NULL' failed. This seems to be a widget issue (the widget tries to set a cursor on a non-existing window, see earlier messages for more explanation). (Sebastian, have you looked into this yet?) Please... test this patch, and tell me what works/what does not/what you want to see changed... The patch does not just give Dillo tab functionality, it also provides a framework for implementing frames (no pun intended) by separating 'document' from 'interface' code. So, the sooner it is in CVS, the better... As always, you can disable the tab functionality with --disable-tabs. You'll still gain the focus improvements and the shift-click functionality, as well as the document/interface separation. Download the patch here: http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank/dillo-20030723-tabs.patch.gz size: 41825 bytes (gzipped, as downloaded) 170684 bytes (uncompressed) md5sum: aa2cd8b800f323c348ff4a381b406bac (gzipped, as downloaded) 03f991b4c3c1cb79609c05879d998efd (uncompressed) As always, check the site for the most recent version: http://www.geocities.com/ikbenfrank Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

July 23, 2003

[BUG] segfault on page-back after bookmark delete

by Frank de Lange

While testing my tab-patch I happened upon a segfault in the current CVS version of Dillo. Do this: 1) go to the bookmarks page 2) select the [modify] link 3) select something to delete (can be the 'Unclassified' section in case you have no bookmarks defined) 4) select the delete operation in the drop-down list 5) press [submit] (the bookmark(s)/section(s) will be deleted) 6) click the back button Instead of going back in history, you'll get a page with TWO bookmark sections (a Bookmarks::modify page, followed by a normal Bookmarks:: page). If you press the 'forward' button at this stage, you'll get a page with THREE bookmarks sections. Press back again, and you'll have FOUR bookmarks sections. Et cetera... 5) press back again you should be looking at the 'about:splash' page now 6) to trigger the segfault, either... - press forward or - click any link on the page I submitted a bug for this (bugid = 481) with a short description (that 256 char limit is a bit... limiting...). As this is easy to try for yourself, I have not included trace info... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

July 23, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Another delay for 0.7.3 :(

by Madis Janson

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > GTK+2 : It'd be very interesting to know how much overhead it > adds: is it slower?, how much bigger? etc. Please > note that one of the main causes for GTK+ being very > slow, is GTK+ themes (but they can be avoided!). > If someone has these answers, or pointer to docs. > it'd be very interesting to follow the thread. > one interesting mail thread about gtk2 signals slowness: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2001-May/msg00398.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2001-May/msg00404.html which also suggests, that using G_SIGNAL_TYPE_STATIC_SCOPE will make gtk2 signals a bit faster. http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/gobject-Signals.html#G-SIGNA…

July 22, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Another delay for 0.7.3 :(

by Frank de Lange

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:16:50PM -0400, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > Frank : A review of the tabs patch is still pending. I'm preparing a new patch, against recent CVS. Some improvements which I planned are implemented, no bugs fixed since last time as I have not found any. Who will review the patch, when, will it be included in 0.8.0? The sooner the better I think, since major changes in CVS will probably force changes in the patch, which will then have to be reviewed again, ad infinitum et delirium... New patch coming tomorrow I hope, I will put it on the geocities page (still no broadband here in Sweden -> no webserver, even though this is supposed to be one of the most wired countries on the planet...) and announce it to the list. The new patch addresses the focus issues (focus on location bar on new empty tab/window, focus docwin on tab switch) and the left-to-right tab deletion issues. BTW, I also have started to look into the possibility of implementing a pie menu (like mozilla's/phoenix's RadialContext menu) for Dillo, since this would radically speed up menu interaction. Optional, of course. The current popup-menu is not really suited to fast no-eyes navigation: the top of the menu is completely inactive (title and separators) so it is not possible to right-click-drag-release the top menu option (which should be the most used option). This pie-menu would only be used for the static menus on the page itself, not for the button menus or the pagemark menu. Pie menus only make sense in a static context so positional memory can take effect. Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW ________________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / +46-734352015 \ \ `--| _/ <Hacker for Hire> \ `---' \ +31-640037120 / \ frank(a)unternet.org / `------------------------' [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

July 22, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] Another delay for 0.7.3 :(

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi, > On Thu, Jul 17, Jorge Arellano Cid wrote: > > I just came across this site: > > > > http://lpr.sourceforge.net/ > > > > It has some problems rendering the leftmost column. When > > downloaded at slow speeds it sometimes ends being too wide (twice > > as much as required, and sometimes less). > > I just committed a fix. Please test it, I'll also look at it again > tomorrow. > > Sebastian Today I was just preparing the details for uploading the tarball with a view to make the official announcement on Thursday (to allow for .rpm, .deb, etc be updated), when the following site showed the same bug: http://www.icewalkers.com/search.php With a dialup, it is easy to reproduce. Broadband will make it harder (you may try while downloading another file). Finally a: 'wget -kp ...' and viewing it from the local files (with the added delay of HD access also works sometimes). This adds another delay... :( The good news is that the 0.8.0-pre tarball is ready (I just finished a non-polished but functional ftp plugin, also added a hello.dpi example, and wrote a seven pages doc file Dpid.txt). As you know, I was wishing to make it available after 0.7.3, but most probably I'll have to upload this tarballs soon. Ah, with all this release overhead I haven't had the time for answering some interesting issues. I hope to have more time after the release: Johan H. : Yes, you convinced me! :), and I gave it some extra thought please be patient. I'll write back. Frank : A review of the tabs patch is still pending. Counting dillo users: I have an idea, stay tunned! "Nirvana" Focus: I have an answer from Owen Taylor. Interesting. User agent ID: I gave it a nother review (It had being brought by Damien a long time ago). As then, I digged the http specs and pondered the seccurity concerns and kept more inclined to not providing OS info. GTK+2 : It'd be very interesting to know how much overhead it adds: is it slower?, how much bigger? etc. Please note that one of the main causes for GTK+ being very slow, is GTK+ themes (but they can be avoided!). If someone has these answers, or pointer to docs. it'd be very interesting to follow the thread. Cheers Jorge.-

July 22, 2003

dpid

by Ferdi Franceschini

A new version of the plugin manager for dillo (dpid5) is now available at http://www.geocities.com/ferdif2003/ * dpid now scans a dillo plugin directory structure for available plugins. * the main function has been refactored to make it easier to understand and easier to extend with new dpid commands. * the test suite has been restructured so that it is now easier to test inividual modules and functions in a test environment with dummy clients and servers. TODO There is still no code to integrate new plugins into dillo. You still have to kill and restart dpid when new plugins are added. Ferdi

July 21, 2003