March 2003 - Dillo-dev - lists.mailman3.com

0.7.1.2

by Jorge Arellano Cid

Hi there! After a failed attempt (0.7.1.1), the correct fix was released today (0.7.1.2). Once again, please upgrade, and I hope this is the final fix for the 0.7.0 problems. Cheers Jorge.-

March 11, 2003

bm server a comedian ?

by slymer＠slymer.org

Whenever I try to add a bookmark I get a "Is it worth it?" on the status bar and then dillo dies. What gives ?! -- Registered Linux user #298569 Some people pray for more than they are willing to work for.

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] How to use dicache?

by Livio Baldini Soares

Livio Baldini Soares writes: [...] > > I thought that dillo doesn't have a persistant cache - I thought that the > > understanding was that if you want a cache, then you can install one yourself, > > like squid. > > Squid would probably be the best way to do this, I will be installing it soon > > (when ever I work out how on earch the configuration works!). > > Exactly. Beware though that there are simpler web caches then Dillo, ^^^^^ Squid! > I forget their names right now... 'wwwoffle' is a famous one I think, > but there are others. Google around. -- Livio <livio(a)ime.usp.br>

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] How to use dicache?

by Livio Baldini Soares

Hi guys, Let me clarify a little bit about what the dicache is. This is how Dillo works. When you ask for a URL (be it a root URL, like a HTML, or an image embedded in a page), it looks it up in a _memory_ cache. If it's already there it returns the content of the cache, and if not it makes a connection to retrieve that URL. But there is a complication with respect to images. The images which are downloaded need to be decompressed to be displayed (that is, transformed from their original format, jpeg, gif, etc, to a bitmap format). So for images, first the dicache (_d_ecompressed _i_mage cache) is checked, then the cache, then finally it is retrieved from the site. The problem with dicache is that it eats up a *LOT* of memory, and the only benefit is the processing time of transforming from the original format to the bitmap. That's why the default is NO. TheStar writes: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:08:24 +0000 > William Trenker <wdtrenker(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > > > I copied dillorc into ~/.dillo/ and set "use_dicache=YES". I then went into Dillo (0.7.1) and went to Google. (I'm on a 33.6K modem connection so I can see the time it takes to load the Google logo). Then I went out of Dillo and back in again to the Google home page. The Google logo took just as long to draw as the first time. I thought that the dicache setting would keep the images in a cache. Obviously I don't understand how this is supposed to work. Humm... I wonder how you got to that impression. Are the docs fuzzy anywhere abou this issue? We can try to clear it up. Anyway, as I explained dicache is a _memory_ cache. It never gets persisted, so when you leave Dillo, it's all gone. > I thought that dillo doesn't have a persistant cache - I thought that the > understanding was that if you want a cache, then you can install one yourself, > like squid. > Squid would probably be the best way to do this, I will be installing it soon > (when ever I work out how on earch the configuration works!). Exactly. Beware though that there are simpler web caches then Dillo, I forget their names right now... 'wwwoffle' is a famous one I think, but there are others. Google around. There is some nice information that comes with Dillo with respect to caches and dicaches. Read dillo/doc/Cache.txt and dillo/doc/Images.txt. regards, -- Livio <livio(a)ime.usp.br>

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] How to use dicache?

by Jorge Arellano Cid

William, > I copied dillorc into ~/.dillo/ and set "use_dicache=YES". I then went into Dillo (0.7.1) and went to Google. (I'm on a 33.6K modem connection so I can see the time it takes to load the Google logo). Then I went out of Dillo and back in again to the Google home page. The Google logo took just as long to draw as the first time. I thought that the dicache setting would keep the images in a cache. Obviously I don't understand how this is supposed to work. The dicache is the decompressed image cache. It avoids decoding the image every time it is rendered as it caches the RGB. You may read doc/Cache.txt Cheers Jorge.-

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] How to use dicache?

by TheStar

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:08:24 +0000 William Trenker <wdtrenker(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > I copied dillorc into ~/.dillo/ and set "use_dicache=YES". I then went into Dillo (0.7.1) and went to Google. (I'm on a 33.6K modem connection so I can see the time it takes to load the Google logo). Then I went out of Dillo and back in again to the Google home page. The Google logo took just as long to draw as the first time. I thought that the dicache setting would keep the images in a cache. Obviously I don't understand how this is supposed to work. > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev > I thought that dillo doesn't have a persistant cache - I thought that the understanding was that if you want a cache, then you can install one yourself, like squid. Squid would probably be the best way to do this, I will be installing it soon (when ever I work out how on earch the configuration works!). But, that dicache thing is interesting (I am not a Dillo developer...)

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] cannot login to the times

by Eythan Weg

Thanks, seems to be working fine now. eythan Jorgen Viksell <jorgen.viksell(a)telia.com> writes: > Hi, > >> I am still stunned by the responsiveness of this >> browser. Thank you! However, there is one >> irritant. With cookies accepted, dillo 7.0 is not >> able to login to the New York Times (at >> nytimes.com) After filling user-name and >> password, and submitting, the login page returns >> cleared, as if nothing happened. >> >> Is this a known issue? Anything special to do? > > Try this patch, it fixes it for me; > http://w1.211.telia.com/~u21114235/patch-cookies-20030310 > > BTW, it also fixes bug #364 > > Cheers,

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] nowrap and prefs.limit_text_width

by Kelson Vibber

At 02:51 PM 3/10/2003, Nicolas Kaiser wrote: >I'm having a little problem with sites that excessively make use of >"nowrap" tags, like <http://futurezone.orf.at> >... >Am I cruelly breaking standards, or would that make sense? (I went hunting through the specs for a <nowrap> tag until I realized what you meant.) I don't think it breaks standards any more than Opera's new small-screen rendering, which disregards most layout information in an effort to get everything to fit. Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org

March 10, 2003

nowrap and prefs.limit_text_width

by Nicolas Kaiser

Hi there! I'm having a little problem with sites that excessively make use of "nowrap" tags, like <http://futurezone.orf.at> I toyed with limit_text_width (quote from dillorc: # Set this to YES, if you want to limit the word wrap width to the vieport # width (may be useful for iPAQ) limit_text_width=YES ), but I noticed that this option doesn't work as I would have expected, because it doesn't force wrapping here (nowrap). Now I think in the context of this dillorc remark, it might be a good idea to override 'nowrap' when limit_text_width is wanted. Am I cruelly breaking standards, or would that make sense? Please have a look at the above site with limit_text_width=YES, and then with the below patch. Thanks for your fantastic work, n. --- src/html.c.orig 2003-03-10 22:04:45.000000000 +0100 +++ src/html.c 2003-03-10 22:10:21.000000000 +0100 @@ -1398,7 +1398,7 @@ style_attrs = *old_style; if (!html->stack[html->stack_top].cell_text_align_set) style_attrs.text_align = text_align; - if (Html_get_attr(html, tag, tagsize, "nowrap")) + if ((Html_get_attr(html, tag, tagsize, "nowrap")) && (!prefs.limit_text_width)) style_attrs.nowrap = TRUE; else style_attrs.nowrap = FALSE;

March 10, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] cannot login to the times

by Jorgen Viksell

Hi, > I am still stunned by the responsiveness of this > browser. Thank you! However, there is one > irritant. With cookies accepted, dillo 7.0 is not > able to login to the New York Times (at > nytimes.com) After filling user-name and > password, and submitting, the login page returns > cleared, as if nothing happened. > > Is this a known issue? Anything special to do? Try this patch, it fixes it for me; http://w1.211.telia.com/~u21114235/patch-cookies-20030310 BTW, it also fixes bug #364 Cheers, Jörgen

March 10, 2003