March 2003 - Dillo-dev - lists.mailman3.com

Re: [Dillo-dev] space in urls

by John Bradford

> Is there some reason why spaces are dropped from URLs in dillo? Most other > browsers will convert such spaces to %20 (and similarly with other illegal > URI characters) automagically. It's a convinience which some webmasters > take for granted (and which breaks browsing with dillo). I've asked several webmasters to fix the problem, and so far they all have :-). Seriously, the problem with making a non standards-conforming browser is that it encourages people not to bother to follow the standards. John.

March 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo source

by higuita

On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:59:41 -0500, Patrick Shanahan <paka(a)MyRealBox.com> wrote: > With the compression algorithms incorporated in modem transfers, the is > probably very little difference in transfer time. The bz2 files are > more tightly compressed and would allow for less compression during > transfer versus the opposite condition for gzipped files. err ... well... 8) this isnt true, the modem compression is very limited and is no diferent from the normal compression (you can even use the gzip algorithm) its limited because it can only compresses using a very small buffer, usually around 4Kb IIRC i dont know the block size for gzip, but for bzip, even in the fastest mode (-1), it is about 100Kb, for -9 its about 900Kb as we already know, compressing a compressed file is useless doesnt matter if is well compressed or badly compressed, the final file is still a very packed file that have very low repeat rate and so compresses badly no matter the options or algorithm used so when compressing text, computer side compresion (.gz, .bz2, etc) is always alot better than the modem compression because of the very low block size of the last one compressing a compressed file is useless for both computer side software and for modem side, no matter if the original file is well compressed or badly compressed if we are transfering only compressed files via a modem, we can even get a better speed by disabling the modem compression but usually isnt worth it because we transfer also text in the form of html pages, http, ftp, etc commands and finally the tcp/ip headers can be also a little compressed so using gzip or bzip2 is the same for the modem, the smaller of both will finish first all the time higuita -- Naturally the common people don't want war... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Hermann Goering, Nazi and war criminal, 1883-1946

March 12, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] feature request

by Andreas Schweitzer

On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:47:02PM -0700, Kenneth D. Weinert wrote: > I just wondered if there was a method to force dillo to treat a file > given on the command line as HTML. Not really an answer to your question, but ... > > I'd like to use dillo to view html attachments from my mail program, > but since the temporary file doesn't have .htm[l] as an extension > (actually, it is extension free) so dillo just displays the html > instead of interpreting it. ... reading the "user-agent" from your header, I figured you are using mutt. Then add the following into .mailcap : text/html; dillo %s; nametemplate=%s.html That's what I have :-) It may work for other MUA's as well. Optinally, add a test. Cheers Andreas -- **************************** NEW ADDRESS ****************************** Hamburger Sternwarte Universitaet Hamburg Gojenbergsweg 112 Tel. ++49 40 42891 4016 D-21029 Hamburg, Germany Fax. ++49 40 42891 4198

March 12, 2003

space in urls

by Ami Fischman

Is there some reason why spaces are dropped from URLs in dillo? Most other browsers will convert such spaces to %20 (and similarly with other illegal URI characters) automagically. It's a convinience which some webmasters take for granted (and which breaks browsing with dillo). Cheers, -- Ami Fischman usenet(a)fischman.org

March 11, 2003

feature request

by Kenneth D. Weinert

I just wondered if there was a method to force dillo to treat a file given on the command line as HTML. I'd like to use dillo to view html attachments from my mail program, but since the temporary file doesn't have .htm[l] as an extension (actually, it is extension free) so dillo just displays the html instead of interpreting it. I don't mind working on a patch if this capability doesn't already exist, but before embarking down that path I thought I'd check with the experts as I didn't see a reference to this "problem". Thanks. -- /~\ The ASCII Ken Weinert mc(a)quarter-flash.com \ / Ribbon Campaign 303-452-6603 (V) 303-705-4258 (F) X Against HTML GnuPG: 9274F1CE GnuPG available at http://www.gnupg.org/ / \ Email! 1D87 3720 BB77 4489 A928 79D6 F8EC DD76 9274 F1CE Press <CTRL>-<ALT>-<DEL> to continue ...

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo binary size

by Raphael Barabas

On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:13:32PM -0500, Telent wrote: > Personally, my unstripped build is 5.5M; stripped, it's only 272K. doh! -rwxr-xr-x 1 raphi raphi 296164 Mar 11 23:49 dillo ahh, much better. :) raphi

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo binary size

by Telent

> -rwxr-xr-x 1 raphi raphi 6358748 Mar 11 18:43 src/dillo Personally, my unstripped build is 5.5M; stripped, it's only 272K. -Sunny Raspet

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] nowrap and prefs.limit_text_width

by Sebastian Geerken

On Mon, Mar 10, Nicolas Kaiser wrote: > I'm having a little problem with sites that excessively make use of > "nowrap" tags, like <http://futurezone.orf.at> > > I toyed with limit_text_width (quote from dillorc: > > # Set this to YES, if you want to limit the word wrap width to the vieport > # width (may be useful for iPAQ) > limit_text_width=YES > > ), but I noticed that this option doesn't work as I would have expected, > because it doesn't force wrapping here (nowrap). "limit_text_width" is intended for table columns with explicitly or implicitly (e.g. by large banner images) set table widths. On futurezone, you have (IIRC; there was already some discussion exactly about this site) something like <td width=500 nowrap>, which is actually some kind of wrong HTML, since any correct interpretation would indeed not wrap the text (if I have understood it correct, strangely, most browsers *do* wrap the text). This is really a reason to send a mail to the webmaster. > Now I think in the context of this dillorc remark, it might be a good idea > to override 'nowrap' when limit_text_width is wanted. > > Am I cruelly breaking standards, or would that make sense? > Please have a look at the above site with limit_text_width=YES, and then > with the below patch. "nowrap" should be honored in any case (at least, it should not be turned off by *this* option), since it can be used for texts where wrapping makes the text unreadable. Sebastian

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo binary size

by Simon Davis

Hi Melvin, I just checked the two binaries (0.7 and 0.7.2.1) and it seems that 0.7.2.1 is linking a few libraries in statically. It didn't occur to me to check ldd on both binaries. Thanks for the hint. SD --- Melvin Hadasht <melvin.hadasht(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi Simon, > > on Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:02:58 -0800 (PST) > Simon Davis <sd1324(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > After building dillo 0.7.1.2 and stripping the binary the file size is almost > > 1.6 megs. When I built 0.7 the final binary came out to be 289k. > > > > I built both using the uclibc library and gcc 3.2. > > > > Is there some special configuration option I need to add to make the binary > > smaller? > > > Maybe it was not dynamically linked? Try "ldd `which dillo`", it will show you > to which library it is dynamically linked. > > Cheers > > > -- > Melvin Hadasht > > _______________________________________________ > Dillo-dev mailing list > Dillo-dev(a)lists.auriga.wearlab.de > http://lists.auriga.wearlab.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dillo-dev __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com

March 11, 2003

Re: [Dillo-dev] dillo binary size

by Melvin Hadasht

Hi Simon, on Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:02:58 -0800 (PST) Simon Davis <sd1324(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi, > > After building dillo 0.7.1.2 and stripping the binary the file size is almost > 1.6 megs. When I built 0.7 the final binary came out to be 289k. > > I built both using the uclibc library and gcc 3.2. > > Is there some special configuration option I need to add to make the binary > smaller? Maybe it was not dynamically linked? Try "ldd `which dillo`", it will show you to which library it is dynamically linked. Cheers -- Melvin Hadasht

March 11, 2003